Re: [PROPOSAL] Structure the Flink Open Source Development

2016-07-14 Thread Robert Metzger
te > >>>>>>>>> component > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to track development for check- and savepoints. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>

Re: [PROPOSAL] Structure the Flink Open Source Development

2016-06-17 Thread Kostas Kloudas
t;>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 10:59 AM, Aljoscha Krettek < >>>>>>>>>> aljos...@apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Btw, in Jira, if we clean up our components w

Re: [PROPOSAL] Structure the Flink Open Source Development

2016-06-16 Thread Robert Metzger
t; > > > >>>>>>> I think maintainer is also fine if we clearly > specify > >> > that > >> > > > they > >> > > > > > > >> are > >> > > > > > > >>>> not > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> meant as dictators or gatekeepers of the component > that > >> > > they > >> > > > > are > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> responsible for. > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> -Aljoscha > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 at 09:48 Vasiliki Kalavri < > >> > > > > > > >>>> vasilikikala...@gmail.com> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> wrote: > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Hi, > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> we could go for something like "sponsor" or > "champion" > >> > :) > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> I'm fine with the proposal. Good to see more than 1 > >> > person > >> > > > for > >> > > > > > > >> both > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> Gelly > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> and Table API. > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> cheers, > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> -V. > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> On 1 June 2016 at 05:46, Tzu-Li (Gordon) Tai < > >> > > > > > tzuli...@gmail.com > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> wrote: > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> I'd like to be added to the Streaming Connectors > >> > > component > >> > > > > > > >>> (already > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> edited > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Wiki) :) > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Ah, naming, one of the hardest problems in > >> programming > >> > :P > >> > > > > Some > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> comments: > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> I agree with Robert that the name "maintainers" > will > >> be > >> > > > > > somewhat > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> misleading > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> regarding the authoritative difference with > >> committers > >> > / > >> > > > > PMCs, > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> especially > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> for future newcomers to the community who don't > come > >> > > across > >> > > > > the > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> original > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> discussion on this thread. > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Simone's suggestion of Overseer seems good. The > name > >> > > > > naturally > >> > > > > > > >>>> matches > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> its > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> role - > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> - A group of "Overseers" for components, who > keeps an > >> > eye > >> > > > on > >> > > > > > > >>> related > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> mail > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> threads, known limitations and issues, JIRAs, open > >> PRs, > >> > > > > > > >> requested > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> features, > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> and potential new overseers and committers, etc, > for > >> > the > >> > > > > > > >> component > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> (original > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> maintainer role). > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> - A "Shepherd" for individual PRs, assigned from > the > >> > > > > overseers > >> > > > > > > >> of > >> > > > > > > >>>> the > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> component with the aim to guide the submitting > >> > > contributor. > >> > > > > > > >>>> Overseers > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> typically pick up new PRs to shepherd themselves, > or > >> > the > >> > > > > > leading > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> overseer > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> allocates an overseer to shepherd a PR which > hasn't > >> > been > >> > > > > picked > >> > > > > > > >> up > >> > > > > > > >>>> yet > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> after > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> a certain period of time. > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Or perhaps we can also simply go for "Shepherds" > for > >> > > > > components > >> > > > > > > >>> and > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> "Assigned Shepherd" for individual PRs? > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> -- > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> View this message in context: > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> > >> > > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > http://apache-flink-mailing-list-archive.1008284.n3.nabble.com/PROPOSAL-Structure-the-Flink-Open-Source-Development-tp11598p11932.html > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Sent from the Apache Flink Mailing List archive. > >> > mailing > >> > > > list > >> > > > > > > >>>> archive > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> at > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Nabble.com. > >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> > >> > > > > > > >>>> > >> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> >

Re: [PROPOSAL] Structure the Flink Open Source Development

2016-06-16 Thread Maximilian Michels
think maintainer is also fine if we clearly specify >> > that >> > > > they >> > > > > > > >> are >> > > > > > > >>>> not >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> meant as dictators or gatekeepers of the component that >> > > they >> > > > > are

Re: [PROPOSAL] Structure the Flink Open Source Development

2016-06-15 Thread Robert Metzger
; > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 at 09:48 Vasiliki Kalavri < > > > > > > > >>>> vasilikikala...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Hi, > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> we could go for something like "sponsor" or "champion" > > :) > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> I'm fine with the proposal. Good to see more than 1 > > person > > > > for > > > > > > > >> both > > > > > > > >>>>>> Gelly > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> and Table API. > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> cheers, > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> -V. > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> On 1 June 2016 at 05:46, Tzu-Li (Gordon) Tai < > > > > > > tzuli...@gmail.com > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> I'd like to be added to the Streaming Connectors > > > component > > > > > > > >>> (already > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> edited > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Wiki) :) > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Ah, naming, one of the hardest problems in > programming > > :P > > > > > Some > > > > > > > >>>>>> comments: > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> I agree with Robert that the name "maintainers" will > be > > > > > > somewhat > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> misleading > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> regarding the authoritative difference with > committers > > / > > > > > PMCs, > > > > > > > >>>>>> especially > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> for future newcomers to the community who don't come > > > across > > > > > the > > > > > > > >>>>>> original > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> discussion on this thread. > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Simone's suggestion of Overseer seems good. The name > > > > > naturally > > > > > > > >>>> matches > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> its > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> role - > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> - A group of "Overseers" for components, who keeps an > > eye > > > > on > > > > > > > >>> related > > > > > > > >>>>>> mail > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> threads, known limitations and issues, JIRAs, open > PRs, > > > > > > > >> requested > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> features, > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> and potential new overseers and committers, etc, for > > the > > > > > > > >> component > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> (original > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> maintainer role). > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> - A "Shepherd" for individual PRs, assigned from the > > > > > overseers > > > > > > > >> of > > > > > > > >>>> the > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> component with the aim to guide the submitting > > > contributor. > > > > > > > >>>> Overseers > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> typically pick up new PRs to shepherd themselves, or > > the > > > > > > leading > > > > > > > >>>>>> overseer > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> allocates an overseer to shepherd a PR which hasn't > > been > > > > > picked > > > > > > > >> up > > > > > > > >>>> yet > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> after > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> a certain period of time. > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Or perhaps we can also simply go for "Shepherds" for > > > > > components > > > > > > > >>> and > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> "Assigned Shepherd" for individual PRs? > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> -- > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> View this message in context: > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://apache-flink-mailing-list-archive.1008284.n3.nabble.com/PROPOSAL-Structure-the-Flink-Open-Source-Development-tp11598p11932.html > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Sent from the Apache Flink Mailing List archive. > > mailing > > > > list > > > > > > > >>>> archive > > > > > > > >>>>>> at > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Nabble.com. > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Re: [PROPOSAL] Structure the Flink Open Source Development

2016-06-09 Thread Till Rohrmann
n 2016 at 09:48 Vasiliki Kalavri < > > > > > > >>>> vasilikikala...@gmail.com> > > > > > > >>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Hi, > > > > > >

Re: [PROPOSAL] Structure the Flink Open Source Development

2016-06-09 Thread Aljoscha Krettek
t; > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> we could go for something like "sponsor" or "champion" :) > > > > > >>>>>>>> I'm fine with the proposal. Good to see more than 1 person > > for > > > > > >> both > > > > > >>>>

Re: [PROPOSAL] Structure the Flink Open Source Development

2016-06-09 Thread Stephan Ewen
; > > >> both > > > > >>>>>> Gelly > > > > >>>>>>>> and Table API. > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> cheers, > > > > >>>>>>>> -V. > > > > >>>>>>>

Re: [PROPOSAL] Structure the Flink Open Source Development

2016-06-08 Thread Aljoscha Krettek
u-Li (Gordon) Tai < > > tzuli...@gmail.com > > > >>> > > > >>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> I'd like to be added to the Streaming Connectors component > > > >>> (already > > > >>>>>>>> edited > > > >>>>>>>>> Wiki) :) > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> Ah, naming, one of the hardest problems in programming :P > Some > > > >>>>>> comments: > > > >>>>>>>>> I agree with Robert that the name "maintainers" will be > > somewhat > > > >>>>>>>> misleading > > > >>>>>>>>> regarding the authoritative difference with committers / > PMCs, > > > >>>>>> especially > > > >>>>>>>>> for future newcomers to the community who don't come across > the > > > >>>>>> original > > > >>>>>>>>> discussion on this thread. > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> Simone's suggestion of Overseer seems good. The name > naturally > > > >>>> matches > > > >>>>>>>> its > > > >>>>>>>>> role - > > > >>>>>>>>> - A group of "Overseers" for components, who keeps an eye on > > > >>> related > > > >>>>>> mail > > > >>>>>>>>> threads, known limitations and issues, JIRAs, open PRs, > > > >> requested > > > >>>>>>>> features, > > > >>>>>>>>> and potential new overseers and committers, etc, for the > > > >> component > > > >>>>>>>>> (original > > > >>>>>>>>> maintainer role). > > > >>>>>>>>> - A "Shepherd" for individual PRs, assigned from the > overseers > > > >> of > > > >>>> the > > > >>>>>>>>> component with the aim to guide the submitting contributor. > > > >>>> Overseers > > > >>>>>>>>> typically pick up new PRs to shepherd themselves, or the > > leading > > > >>>>>> overseer > > > >>>>>>>>> allocates an overseer to shepherd a PR which hasn't been > picked > > > >> up > > > >>>> yet > > > >>>>>>>>> after > > > >>>>>>>>> a certain period of time. > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> Or perhaps we can also simply go for "Shepherds" for > components > > > >>> and > > > >>>>>>>>> "Assigned Shepherd" for individual PRs? > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> -- > > > >>>>>>>>> View this message in context: > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > > > > http://apache-flink-mailing-list-archive.1008284.n3.nabble.com/PROPOSAL-Structure-the-Flink-Open-Source-Development-tp11598p11932.html > > > >>>>>>>>> Sent from the Apache Flink Mailing List archive. mailing list > > > >>>> archive > > > >>>>>> at > > > >>>>>>>>> Nabble.com. > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >

Re: [PROPOSAL] Structure the Flink Open Source Development

2016-06-08 Thread Stephan Ewen
m > > >>> > > >>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> I'd like to be added to the Streaming Connectors component > > >>> (already > > >>>>>>>> edited >

Re: [PROPOSAL] Structure the Flink Open Source Development

2016-06-07 Thread Robert Metzger
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Ah, naming, one of the hardest problems in programming :P Some > >>>>>> comments: > >>>>>>>>> I agree with Robert that the name "maintainers" will be somewhat > &

Re: [PROPOSAL] Structure the Flink Open Source Development

2016-06-03 Thread Chiwan Park
gt;>>>>>>>> I agree with Robert that the name "maintainers" will be somewhat >>>>>>>> misleading >>>>>>>>> regarding the authoritative difference with committers / PMCs, >>>>>> especially >>>>>>>>

Re: [PROPOSAL] Structure the Flink Open Source Development

2016-06-02 Thread Henry Saputra
community who don't come across the > > > >> original > > > >> >>> discussion on this thread. > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> Simone's suggestion of Overseer seems good. The name naturally > > > matches > > > >> >> its > > >

Re: [PROPOSAL] Structure the Flink Open Source Development

2016-06-01 Thread Stephan Ewen
Simone's suggestion of Overseer seems good. The name naturally > > matches > > >> >> its > > >> >>> role - > > >> >>> - A group of "Overseers" for components, who keeps an eye on > related > > >> mail > > >> &

Re: [PROPOSAL] Structure the Flink Open Source Development

2016-06-01 Thread Greg Hogan
t;>>> >>>>>> for future newcomers to the community who don't come across the >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> original >>>>> >>>>>> discussion on this thread. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Simone's suggestion of Overseer seems good. The name naturally >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> matches >>> >>>> its >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> role - >>>>>>>> - A group of "Overseers" for components, who keeps an eye on related >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> mail >>>>> >>>>>> threads, known limitations and issues, JIRAs, open PRs, requested >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> features, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> and potential new overseers and committers, etc, for the component >>>>>>>> (original >>>>>>>> maintainer role). >>>>>>>> - A "Shepherd" for individual PRs, assigned from the overseers of >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> the >>> >>>> component with the aim to guide the submitting contributor. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Overseers >>> >>>> typically pick up new PRs to shepherd themselves, or the leading >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> overseer >>>>> >>>>>> allocates an overseer to shepherd a PR which hasn't been picked up >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> yet >>> >>>> after >>>>>>>> a certain period of time. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Or perhaps we can also simply go for "Shepherds" for components and >>>>>>>> "Assigned Shepherd" for individual PRs? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> View this message in context: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>> http://apache-flink-mailing-list-archive.1008284.n3.nabble.com/PROPOSAL-Structure-the-Flink-Open-Source-Development-tp11598p11932.html >>> >>>> Sent from the Apache Flink Mailing List archive. mailing list >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> archive >>> >>>> at >>>>> >>>>>> Nabble.com. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >

Re: [PROPOSAL] Structure the Flink Open Source Development

2016-06-01 Thread Chesnay Schepler
ch hasn't been picked up yet after a certain period of time. Or perhaps we can also simply go for "Shepherds" for components and "Assigned Shepherd" for individual PRs? -- View this message in context: http://apache-flink-mailing-list-archive.1008284.n3.nabble.com/PROPOSAL-Structure-the-Flink-Open-Source-Development-tp11598p11932.html Sent from the Apache Flink Mailing List archive. mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [PROPOSAL] Structure the Flink Open Source Development

2016-06-01 Thread Fabian Hueske
gt;> features, > >> >>> and potential new overseers and committers, etc, for the component > >> >>> (original > >> >>> maintainer role). > >> >>> - A "Shepherd" for individual PRs, assigned from the overseers of > the > >> >>> component with the aim to guide the submitting contributor. > Overseers > >> >>> typically pick up new PRs to shepherd themselves, or the leading > >> overseer > >> >>> allocates an overseer to shepherd a PR which hasn't been picked up > yet > >> >>> after > >> >>> a certain period of time. > >> >>> > >> >>> Or perhaps we can also simply go for "Shepherds" for components and > >> >>> "Assigned Shepherd" for individual PRs? > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> -- > >> >>> View this message in context: > >> >>> > >> >> > >> > http://apache-flink-mailing-list-archive.1008284.n3.nabble.com/PROPOSAL-Structure-the-Flink-Open-Source-Development-tp11598p11932.html > >> >>> Sent from the Apache Flink Mailing List archive. mailing list > archive > >> at > >> >>> Nabble.com. > >> >>> > >> > >> >

Re: [PROPOSAL] Structure the Flink Open Source Development

2016-06-01 Thread Ufuk Celebi
t; mail >> >>> threads, known limitations and issues, JIRAs, open PRs, requested >> >> features, >> >>> and potential new overseers and committers, etc, for the component >> >>> (original >> >>> maintainer role). >

Re: [PROPOSAL] Structure the Flink Open Source Development

2016-06-01 Thread Aljoscha Krettek
original > >>> maintainer role). > >>> - A "Shepherd" for individual PRs, assigned from the overseers of the > >>> component with the aim to guide the submitting contributor. Overseers > >>> typically pick up new PRs to shepherd themselves, or t

Re: [PROPOSAL] Structure the Flink Open Source Development

2016-06-01 Thread Chesnay Schepler
-- View this message in context: http://apache-flink-mailing-list-archive.1008284.n3.nabble.com/PROPOSAL-Structure-the-Flink-Open-Source-Development-tp11598p11932.html Sent from the Apache Flink Mailing List archive. mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [PROPOSAL] Structure the Flink Open Source Development

2016-06-01 Thread Aljoscha Krettek
en picked up yet > > after > > a certain period of time. > > > > Or perhaps we can also simply go for "Shepherds" for components and > > "Assigned Shepherd" for individual PRs? > > > > > > > > -- > > View this message in context: > > > http://apache-flink-mailing-list-archive.1008284.n3.nabble.com/PROPOSAL-Structure-the-Flink-Open-Source-Development-tp11598p11932.html > > Sent from the Apache Flink Mailing List archive. mailing list archive at > > Nabble.com. > > >

Re: [PROPOSAL] Structure the Flink Open Source Development

2016-06-01 Thread Vasiliki Kalavri
ly go for "Shepherds" for components and > "Assigned Shepherd" for individual PRs? > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://apache-flink-mailing-list-archive.1008284.n3.nabble.com/PROPOSAL-Structure-the-Flink-Open-Source-Development-tp11598p11932.html > Sent from the Apache Flink Mailing List archive. mailing list archive at > Nabble.com. >

Re: [PROPOSAL] Structure the Flink Open Source Development

2016-05-31 Thread Tzu-Li (Gordon) Tai
Shepherd" for individual PRs? -- View this message in context: http://apache-flink-mailing-list-archive.1008284.n3.nabble.com/PROPOSAL-Structure-the-Flink-Open-Source-Development-tp11598p11932.html Sent from the Apache Flink Mailing List archive. mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [PROPOSAL] Structure the Flink Open Source Development

2016-05-31 Thread Simone Robutti
Overseer? Supervisor? Warden? 2016-05-31 21:23 GMT+02:00 Robert Metzger : > Good point. I haven't thought about this name clash. > However, I wonder whether it is clear from the context whether we are > talking about pull request and component shepherding. > > Are there any other ideas for the

Re: [PROPOSAL] Structure the Flink Open Source Development

2016-05-31 Thread Robert Metzger
Good point. I haven't thought about this name clash. However, I wonder whether it is clear from the context whether we are talking about pull request and component shepherding. Are there any other ideas for the name? If nobody else has concerns regarding the "maintainer" name, we can of course kee

Re: [PROPOSAL] Structure the Flink Open Source Development

2016-05-31 Thread Chesnay Schepler
so are we discarding the other "shepherd" role then? On 31.05.2016 19:47, Robert Metzger wrote: Hi, to keep this discussion going, I pasted Stephan's Component proposal into the Wiki: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/Components+and+Shepherds Also, I suggest to rename the "main

Re: [PROPOSAL] Structure the Flink Open Source Development

2016-05-31 Thread Robert Metzger
Hi, to keep this discussion going, I pasted Stephan's Component proposal into the Wiki: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/Components+and+Shepherds Also, I suggest to rename the "maintainer" to "shepherd" to reflect that still the committers and the PMC is in charge and the shepher

Re: [PROPOSAL] Structure the Flink Open Source Development

2016-05-17 Thread Stephan Ewen
Hi! Thanks for all the comments, and the positive resonance! Looks like so far all are in favor. I would next add a section to the Wiki and the "How to Contribute" Guide on this structure, incorporating the component split of Optimizer and Client. After that, let's get started with gathering can

Re: [PROPOSAL] Structure the Flink Open Source Development

2016-05-16 Thread Kostas Tzoumas
+1 to Henry's comment, once this makes it to the wiki/website the wording needs to make it clear that the governance model is unchanged On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 10:02 AM, Theodore Vasiloudis < theodoros.vasilou...@gmail.com> wrote: > I like the idea of having maintainers as well, hopefully we can

Re: [PROPOSAL] Structure the Flink Open Source Development

2016-05-16 Thread Theodore Vasiloudis
I like the idea of having maintainers as well, hopefully we can streamline the reviewing process. I of course can volunteer for the FlinkML component. As I've mentioned before I'd love to get one more committer willing to review PRs in FlinkML; by my last count we were up to ~20 open ML-related PR

Re: [PROPOSAL] Structure the Flink Open Source Development

2016-05-15 Thread Henry Saputra
The maintainers concept is good idea to make sure PRs are moved smoothly. But, we need to make sure that this is not additional hierarchy on top of Flink PMCs. This will keep us in spirit of ASF community over code. Please do add me as cluster management maintainer member. - Henry On Tuesday, M

Re: [PROPOSAL] Structure the Flink Open Source Development

2016-05-13 Thread Fabian Hueske
I like the proposal and especially the goal to improve the metadata and descriptions of JIRA issues. However, I would like to split Client and Optimizer into separate components. I can be a maintainer of the optimizer component (DataSet + SQL are fine as well). Cheers, Fabian 2016-05-13 17:03

Re: [PROPOSAL] Structure the Flink Open Source Development

2016-05-13 Thread Greg Hogan
+1 to better scaling :) Many Jira tickets are good ideas with no current traction. Some have a pull request (usually closed), many have comments or discussion. It seems these old tickets tend to hang around because closing the ticket feels like rejecting the idea. How do we track requested feature

Re: [PROPOSAL] Structure the Flink Open Source Development

2016-05-13 Thread Matthias J. Sax
Sounds like a good idea to me. We could include Wikipedia article as well. As was thinking about extending the article anyway (no time so far...), as of Flink 1.x the system is stable in large parts and it might be nice to have a high level system description on Wikipedia, too. -Matthias On 05/

Re: [PROPOSAL] Structure the Flink Open Source Development

2016-05-13 Thread Kostas Tzoumas
Should we also add a component "Flink website and wiki" (minus the documentation) with an associated maintainer? On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Timo Walther wrote: > +1 for from my side too > > > > On 13.05.2016 06:13, Chiwan Park wrote: > >> +1 for this proposal >> > > >

Re: [PROPOSAL] Structure the Flink Open Source Development

2016-05-13 Thread Timo Walther
+1 for from my side too On 13.05.2016 06:13, Chiwan Park wrote: +1 for this proposal

Re: [PROPOSAL] Structure the Flink Open Source Development

2016-05-12 Thread Chiwan Park
Thanks for great suggestion. +1 for this proposal. Regards, Chiwan Park > On May 13, 2016, at 1:44 AM, Nick Dimiduk wrote: > > For what it's worth, this is very close to how HBase attempts to manage the > community load. We break out components (in Jira), with a list of named > component maint

Re: [PROPOSAL] Structure the Flink Open Source Development

2016-05-12 Thread Nick Dimiduk
For what it's worth, this is very close to how HBase attempts to manage the community load. We break out components (in Jira), with a list of named component maintainers. Actually, having components alone has given a Big Bang for the buck because when properly labeled, it makes it really easy for p

Re: [PROPOSAL] Structure the Flink Open Source Development

2016-05-12 Thread Aljoscha Krettek
+1 The ideas seem good and the proposed number of components seems reasonable. With this, we should also then cleanup the JIRA to make it actually usable. On Thu, 12 May 2016 at 18:09 Stephan Ewen wrote: > All maintainer candidates are only proposals so far. No indication of lead > or anything

Re: [PROPOSAL] Structure the Flink Open Source Development

2016-05-12 Thread Stephan Ewen
All maintainer candidates are only proposals so far. No indication of lead or anything so far. Let's first see if we agree on the structure proposed here, and if we take the components as suggested here or if we refine the list. Am 12.05.2016 17:45 schrieb "Robert Metzger" : > tl;dr: +1 > > I als

Re: [PROPOSAL] Structure the Flink Open Source Development

2016-05-12 Thread Robert Metzger
tl;dr: +1 I also like the proposal a lot. Our community is growing at a quite fast pace and we need to have some structure in place to still keep track of everything going on. I'm happy to see that the proposal mentions cleaning up our JIRA. This is something that has been annoying me for quite a

Re: [PROPOSAL] Structure the Flink Open Source Development

2016-05-12 Thread Maximilian Michels
+1 for the initiative. With a better process we will improve the quality of the Flink development and give us more time to focus. Could we have another category "Infrastructure"? This would concern things like CI, nightly deployment of snapshots/documentation, ASF Infra communication. Robert and m

Re: [PROPOSAL] Structure the Flink Open Source Development

2016-05-12 Thread Ufuk Celebi
Hey Stephan! Thanks to you and the others who started this. I really like the proposal and I'm happy to see my name on some components. So, +1. I'd say let's wait until the end of the week/beginning of next week to see if there is any disagreement with the propsal in the community (doesn't look

Re: [PROPOSAL] Structure the Flink Open Source Development

2016-05-12 Thread Stephan Ewen
Yes, Matthias, that was supposed to be you. Sorry from another guy who frequently has his name misspelled ;-) On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Matthias J. Sax wrote: > +1 from my side. > > Happy to be the maintainer for Storm-Compatibiltiy (at least I guess > it's me, even the correct spelling w

Re: [PROPOSAL] Structure the Flink Open Source Development

2016-05-12 Thread Kostas Tzoumas
Big +1 from my side, I think this will help the community grow and prosper big time! On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Matthias J. Sax wrote: > +1 from my side. > > Happy to be the maintainer for Storm-Compatibiltiy (at least I guess > it's me, even the correct spelling would be with two 't' :P)

Re: [PROPOSAL] Structure the Flink Open Source Development

2016-05-12 Thread Matthias J. Sax
+1 from my side. Happy to be the maintainer for Storm-Compatibiltiy (at least I guess it's me, even the correct spelling would be with two 't' :P) -Matthias On 05/12/2016 12:56 PM, Till Rohrmann wrote: > +1 for the proposal > On May 12, 2016 12:13 PM, "Stephan Ewen" wrote: > >> Yes, Gabor Geva

Re: [PROPOSAL] Structure the Flink Open Source Development

2016-05-12 Thread Till Rohrmann
+1 for the proposal On May 12, 2016 12:13 PM, "Stephan Ewen" wrote: > Yes, Gabor Gevay, that did refer to you! > > Sorry for the ambiguity... > > On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Márton Balassi > > wrote: > > > +1 for the proposal > > @ggevay: I do think that it refers to you. :) > > > > On Thu

Re: [PROPOSAL] Structure the Flink Open Source Development

2016-05-12 Thread Stephan Ewen
Yes, Gabor Gevay, that did refer to you! Sorry for the ambiguity... On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Márton Balassi wrote: > +1 for the proposal > @ggevay: I do think that it refers to you. :) > > On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 10:40 AM, Gábor Gévay wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > There are at least thr

Re: [PROPOSAL] Structure the Flink Open Source Development

2016-05-12 Thread Márton Balassi
+1 for the proposal @ggevay: I do think that it refers to you. :) On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 10:40 AM, Gábor Gévay wrote: > Hello, > > There are at least three Gábors in the Flink community, :) so > assuming that the Gábor in the list of maintainers of the DataSet API > is referring to me, I'll be

Re: [PROPOSAL] Structure the Flink Open Source Development

2016-05-12 Thread Gábor Gévay
Hello, There are at least three Gábors in the Flink community, :) so assuming that the Gábor in the list of maintainers of the DataSet API is referring to me, I'll be happy to do it. :) Best, Gábor G. 2016-05-10 11:24 GMT+02:00 Stephan Ewen : > Hi everyone! > > We propose to establish some li

[PROPOSAL] Structure the Flink Open Source Development

2016-05-10 Thread Stephan Ewen
Hi everyone! We propose to establish some lightweight structures in the Flink open source community and development process, to help us better handle the increased interest in Flink (mailing list and pull requests), while not overwhelming the committers, and giving users and contributors a good ex