Re: [DISCUSS] Flink release retro

2022-11-22 Thread Matthias Pohl
I updated the Flink release wiki article [1] as discussed in my previous email. An explicit request for feedback on the release process will be part of the release announcement from now onwards. Additionally, I added a subsection in wrapping up the release where we suggest creating a summary per re

Re: [DISCUSS] Flink release retro

2022-11-07 Thread Matthias Pohl
Thanks for all the insights on how it was done in the past and the pro's and con's of the different approaches. ...also being reminded on how we did it for 1.14 and the positive feedback we got from it was helpful. I like the idea of an async survey. I also think that utilizing the mailing list fo

Re: [DISCUSS] Flink release retro

2022-11-03 Thread Johannes Moser
Hi, We did something like this for the 1.14 release [1]. We did that in an async survey-style way approaching key contributors directly. I also think the output was quite nice and we got positive feedback for what we published. I think Robert mentioned they did something similar in the past, with

Re: [DISCUSS] Flink release retro

2022-11-02 Thread Xingbo Huang
Thanks for starting the discussion, Matthias! When I was the 1.16 release manager, I checked the dev mailing list to see what the release managers of the previous two versions did throughout the release cycle. In release 1.16, after each release sync meeting, we would send a summary email, which c

Re: [DISCUSS] Flink release retro

2022-11-02 Thread Jing Ge
Hi all, I figure it is a good idea and +1 for the async retro. More developers will learn from what the release process looks like, which will give them context to engage in future releases. It would be great if the conversation could somehow follow the traditional retro pattern, e.g. tagged with

Re: [DISCUSS] Flink release retro

2022-11-02 Thread Martijn Visser
Hi Matthias, I think it's a good idea to capture how this release cycle has progressed. I'm not sure that a classical "retrospective" is the best solution, since it would require multiple people in different timezones to attend a virtual meeting. So I would +1 an async retrospective, which could

Re: [DISCUSS] Flink release retro

2022-11-02 Thread Qingsheng Ren
Thanks for starting the discussion Matthias! I think having a retro after a release cycle would be quite helpful to standardizing the procedure of the release, and also could avoid new release managers getting stuck on the same issue that happened before. I prefer the second option that RMs could

[DISCUSS] Flink release retro

2022-10-31 Thread Matthias Pohl
Hi everyone, I want to bring up the idea of having a retrospective on the release from the release manager's perspective. The idea would be to collect feedback on what went well and what could be improved for a specific minor release. So far, I didn't find anything on that topic. Does the community