Re: Donating to Apache Flex

2017-02-13 Thread Christofer Dutz
Hi, I would not like to see non-committers with root access to our infrastructure (if we had any). These people would have access to credentials for technical users that again have privileged access to other ASF services. If you asked me, I would opt for people having to be at least PMC to get

Re: Login Security (was Re: Donating to Apache Flex)

2017-02-13 Thread Christofer Dutz
Hi Alex, Well I think we shouldn’t go down the path of yet another login. I really like the ASF LDAP system. This must be managed and taken care of. Chris Am 13.02.17, 17:25 schrieb "Alex Harui" : Another technical thread On 2/13/17, 12:28 AM, "Christofer Dutz" wrote: >

Re: Credentials and Maven (Was Re: Donating to Apache Flex)

2017-02-13 Thread Christofer Dutz
Hi Alex, Maven has a hierarchy of settings. Above the pom.xml is the settings.xml in the user’s profile and above that the settings.xml in maven. Usually you don’t provide credentials in the pom, but define id’s. In the settings.xml you usually provide the credentials for the ids to inject them

Re: Donating to Apache Flex

2017-02-13 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > I forgot to mention that, besides the community tax, there might be > another bill from the ASF for services we use such as email, release > distribution storage, and assistance from the financial folks for handling > the accounting of the money. The ASF receives bills for the same already,

Login Security (was Re: Donating to Apache Flex)

2017-02-13 Thread Alex Harui
Another technical thread On 2/13/17, 12:28 AM, "Christofer Dutz" wrote: > >There is a HUGE difference between setting up a Jenkins on the Intranet >and running a Jenkins on the Internet. From the end-user’s perspective, >this isn’t noticeable, but when administrating these system, it is huge.

Credentials and Maven (Was Re: Donating to Apache Flex)

2017-02-13 Thread Alex Harui
Forking a few technical threads... On 2/13/17, 12:28 AM, "Christofer Dutz" wrote: > >Right now, I don’t know how we could make sure we are able to commit to >GIT or upload to maven without having the credentials on the VM we >control … I guess I don't understand enough about Maven and credenti

Re: Donating to Apache Flex

2017-02-13 Thread Alex Harui
On 2/13/17, 12:28 AM, "Christofer Dutz" wrote: >Well a lot of what you write sounds sensible … especially with an assumed >Community-Tax (or whatever you call it in the end). > >Eventually it would be an option to have a global “donation service” form >the ASF together with the option to - let’

Re: Donating to Apache Flex

2017-02-13 Thread Christofer Dutz
Well a lot of what you write sounds sensible … especially with an assumed Community-Tax (or whatever you call it in the end). Eventually it would be an option to have a global “donation service” form the ASF together with the option to - let’s say add a “Donate to Flex” button on the projects w

Re: Donating to Apache Flex

2017-02-12 Thread Alex Harui
On 2/12/17, 4:25 PM, "Justin Mclean" wrote: >Hi, > >> Don't worry about finances, that's an ASF corporate question - to start >> with, look at the directed funding proposal from the past President's >> report in a board report. > >Alex’s suggestion as I understand it doesn’t seem to fit with t

Re: Donating to Apache Flex

2017-02-12 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > Don't worry about finances, that's an ASF corporate question - to start > with, look at the directed funding proposal from the past President's > report in a board report. Alex’s suggestion as I understand it doesn’t seem to fit with the above experiment. Alex (please correct me if I’m mi

Re: Donating to Apache Flex

2017-02-12 Thread Shane Curcuru
A few clarifications on this excellent conversation from a long-time Apache Member perspective: Harbs wrote earlier: > My thoughts: > > Conceptually, I like the idea of donating to projects (and in our > case Flex). The direction of Apache seems to be moving to a more > project-centric approach

Re: Donating to Apache Flex

2017-02-12 Thread Harbs
> On Feb 12, 2017, at 2:16 PM, Justin Mclean wrote: > > Hi, > >> The direction of Apache seems to be moving to a more project-centric >> approach like we’re seeing with ApacheCon. > > Not sure that's case, for instance the other streams include Cloud, Big Data > and IoT which involve multipl

Re: Donating to Apache Flex

2017-02-12 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > The direction of Apache seems to be moving to a more project-centric approach > like we’re seeing with ApacheCon. Not sure that's case, for instance the other streams include Cloud, Big Data and IoT which involve multiple projects. The IoT stream is likely to involve a dozen or so projec

Re: Donating to Apache Flex

2017-02-12 Thread Harbs
My thoughts: Conceptually, I like the idea of donating to projects (and in our case Flex). The direction of Apache seems to be moving to a more project-centric approach like we’re seeing with ApacheCon. That makes sense to me in general as Apache has grown quite a bit and diversified a lot in r

Re: Donating to Apache Flex

2017-02-11 Thread Christofer Dutz
Ok … responding to this part first: 3) I don’t see the need of this. I think our CI servers are now setup nicely. We have build-times of about 8-10 minutes. I don’t see a need to jump through all the hoops of having to maintain our own infrastructure. Yes, the Ant build doesn’t run on Infra, bu

Re: Donating to Apache Flex

2017-02-10 Thread Alex Harui
On 2/10/17, 3:52 PM, "Justin Mclean" wrote: >Hi, > >> However, in January 2015, the board decided to entertain proposals for >> directed donations. > >This proposal doesn’t see to match with what in that board report [1] as >it's for $50,000 sized experiments. Are you sure you get board support

Re: Donating to Apache Flex

2017-02-10 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > However, in January 2015, the board decided to entertain proposals for > directed donations. This proposal doesn’t see to match with what in that board report [1] as it's for $50,000 sized experiments. Are you sure you get board support and VP funding approval for this proposal? > 3) I