BTW one benefit of SVG is that it has a shadow dom. That means it is
shielded from tampering unwanted CSS styling. This is one of the problems
web devs face using web components. So if you have a web component,
"MyButton" and it has it's using the regular DOM using div, img and spans
to make the bu
BTW, another data point is that FOP implemented the KP algorithm. I don’t know
how practical it would be to adapt that code, but it’s an Apache project, so
licensing should be a non-issue.
On Nov 7, 2015, at 10:00 PM, Harbs wrote:
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> On Nov 6, 2015, at 8:55 PM, Alex Harui wrote:
>
>> That
On Nov 6, 2015, at 8:55 PM, Alex Harui wrote:
> That was an awesome list! Thanks. Just curious, can text layout end up
> affecting more than two lines back?
Yes. Assuming we’re dealing with paragraph composition, text anywhere in the
paragraph can effect the entire line breaking sequence. Th
That was an awesome list! Thanks. Just curious, can text layout end up
affecting more than two lines back? I still think it boils down to
rectangles on a path but the path may not be a straight horizontal line or
always going left-to-right, and you sometimes have to go back a bit.
-Alex
On 11/
>
> What isn’t clear to me is that there is something about text layout to be
> “figured out”. I’m not convinced there is a “best practice” for text
> layout that covers international, effects, character positioning that
> isn’t on a horizontal line, etc. Many of the folks who worked on Adobe
>
On 11/5/15, 10:44 PM, "Harbs" wrote:
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>On Nov 6, 2015, at 1:01 AM, jude wrote:
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>> How did the TLF engineers figure this out?
>
>I think you just need to know and know people who know. Microsoft’s site
>has some great info, but it’s scattered all over the place. I learned a
>lot some years a
On Nov 6, 2015, at 1:01 AM, jude wrote:
> How did the TLF engineers figure this out?
I think you just need to know and know people who know. Microsoft’s site has
some great info, but it’s scattered all over the place. I learned a lot some
years ago when I was working on creating some fonts. I
Alex, I'm proud to say I have worked on TLF with Harbs and so I know a lot
on this subject. Well, that's not true, Harbs did all the work while I
poked and prodded and wrote code he had to rewrite. :P However, in my
opinion it was one of the more difficult frameworks I've seen because of a
lot of n
I’m planning on trying to make txtjs work for me. I like the fact that it has
complete control of font loading, and text effects is an important feature for
me.
It would be an interesting exercise to compare performance of the various
rendering methods. txtjs has some performance testing, and i
Thanks Harbs.
That’s a really great set of information. It is one reason we are trying
not to lock FlexJS to any particular text rendering mechanism. Can you
tell us more about which choice you are going to make for your apps?
-Alex
On 11/5/15, 5:06 AM, "Harbs" wrote:
>There’s two parts to p
There’s two parts to performance. With Flash TLF, the bottleneck is really in
the TLF code. The FTE composition is pretty low level. With JS, everything is
going to be high level. It remains to be seen how the performance of the FTE
part will be in javascript. Of course, there’s the chance that
Renaming the thread to see if we can get more opinions..
There is some evidence that “hot” JS code runs better than “hot” AS code.
So one consideration is the coding patterns themselves. That’s why FlexJS
prefers composition over subclassing, so shared code lives in one place so
it can get “hotte
I don’t remember the list off-hand, but a lot is related to language specific
features. There’s also 3 or 4 levels of ligatures. There were some features I
wished it supported (maybe it was contextual alternates?), but the OpenType
support in general is not bad. There’s definitely missing pieces
On 11/1/15, 10:26 AM, "Harbs" wrote:
>Not just RTL. There’s an awful lot of OpenType features that it supports.
>(Of course It would be great to support even more…) ;-)
I wasn’t aware of that. What kinds of things and how do the browsers do
it?
-Alex
Not just RTL. There’s an awful lot of OpenType features that it supports. (Of
course It would be great to support even more…) ;-)
On Nov 1, 2015, at 5:06 PM, Alex Harui wrote:
> IMO, TextLine was primarily there to do right-to-left text.
On 11/1/15, 3:21 AM, "Harbs" wrote:
>I forgot to respond to this.
>
>Yes. I could be a candidate to work on this. If I get some help, I’d be
>more inclined to work on a public port of TLF. If not, it’ll be MUCH
>easier to just hack together some code that I could use internally.
>
>FWIW, I’m no
I forgot to respond to this.
Yes. I could be a candidate to work on this. If I get some help, I’d be more
inclined to work on a public port of TLF. If not, it’ll be MUCH easier to just
hack together some code that I could use internally.
FWIW, I’m not totally thrilled with Flash’s TextLine. The
For sure, FlexJS is not so far along that you won’t have to use browser
debugging. More thoughts inline.
On 10/21/15, 12:19 AM, "Harbs" wrote:
>Changing the subject…
>
>Here’s a real-life scenario which I’m not sure how it’s going to work:
>
>I expect to spend the next many months building a JS
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