Re: TLF Tables

2013-12-05 Thread Harbs
Thanks. That should be helpful. I think I'll revisit conflicts once things are more-or-less working… On Dec 6, 2013, at 2:35 AM, jude wrote: > I would reference the W3C spec for a few reasons. One you almost starting > from scratch because it's not yet functioning and two, the author of what > h

Re: TLF Tables

2013-12-05 Thread jude
I would reference the W3C spec for a few reasons. One you almost starting from scratch because it's not yet functioning and two, the author of what has been done may have been referencing it in which case you'd find out soon enough. I've found a lot of valuable information when I was looking up ac

Re: TLF Tables

2013-12-05 Thread Alex Harui
OK, good luck ;-) On 12/5/13 10:47 AM, "Harbs" wrote: > >On Dec 5, 2013, at 7:28 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > >> >> >> On 12/5/13 12:11 AM, "Harbs" wrote: >> >>> Okay. To sum up: >> I'm not sure I picked up on whatever point you were trying to make with >> the HTML table examples. > >There were t

Re: TLF Tables

2013-12-05 Thread Harbs
On Dec 5, 2013, at 7:28 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > > > On 12/5/13 12:11 AM, "Harbs" wrote: > >> Okay. To sum up: > I'm not sure I picked up on whatever point you were trying to make with > the HTML table examples. There were two points. One was the existence of column groups for setting column

Re: TLF Tables

2013-12-05 Thread Alex Harui
On 12/5/13 12:11 AM, "Harbs" wrote: >Okay. To sum up: I'm not sure I picked up on whatever point you were trying to make with the HTML table examples. >I need some take-aways from this. > >1) Do we care to style TLF tables after HTML so the above markup will >render? If yes, we probably want

Re: TLF Tables

2013-12-05 Thread Harbs
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Re: TLF Tables

2013-12-04 Thread Alex Harui
On 12/4/13 2:28 PM, "Harbs" wrote: >It does seem that the table elements were styled after html tables. >That's where the column groups and table body elements come in: >http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_colgroup.asp >http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_tbody.asp > >I think too much effort was ma

Re: TLF Tables

2013-12-04 Thread Harbs
It does seem that the table elements were styled after html tables. That's where the column groups and table body elements come in: http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_colgroup.asp http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_tbody.asp I think too much effort was made to style TLF after html… On Dec 5, 2013,

Re: TLF Tables

2013-12-04 Thread Harbs
On Dec 4, 2013, at 7:29 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > > > On 12/4/13 6:40 AM, "Harbs" wrote: > >> I didn't explain myself very well here. >> >> My point is that TLF elements inherit from their parents and we'd get >> that inheritance from the rows for free if cells are children of rows. > Yup, so

Re: TLF Tables

2013-12-04 Thread Alex Harui
On 12/4/13 6:40 AM, "Harbs" wrote: >I didn't explain myself very well here. > >My point is that TLF elements inherit from their parents and we'd get >that inheritance from the rows for free if cells are children of rows. Yup, so if you set background color on the row it should cover the margins

Re: TLF Tables

2013-12-04 Thread Harbs
I didn't explain myself very well here. My point is that TLF elements inherit from their parents and we'd get that inheritance from the rows for free if cells are children of rows. On Dec 4, 2013, at 4:38 PM, Harbs wrote: > If anything table/row/cell gives more flexibility.

Re: TLF Tables

2013-12-04 Thread Harbs
Whether rows/columns exist or not is a bit of an esoteric question. I don't see table/cell helping with formatting. If anything table/row/cell gives more flexibility. There's no reason why you can't set the the cell border on the cell level using either system. If there's three levels, you could

RE: TLF Tables

2013-12-04 Thread Maurice Amsellem
l.com] Envoyé : mercredi 4 décembre 2013 14:33 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : Re: TLF Tables I would vote for table/cells I think it more accurately describes a table. This way you could also more easily set the borders of cells like excell does. IMO rows and columns don't actually exist, they

RE: TLF Tables

2013-12-04 Thread Maurice Amsellem
e.org Objet : Re: TLF Tables I would vote for table/cells I think it more accurately describes a table. This way you could also more easily set the borders of cells like excell does. IMO rows and columns don't actually exist, they are just a coordinate system to locate a cell. On Dec 4, 20

Re: TLF Tables

2013-12-04 Thread Avi Kessner
I would vote for table/cells I think it more accurately describes a table. This way you could also more easily set the borders of cells like excell does. IMO rows and columns don't actually exist, they are just a coordinate system to locate a cell. On Dec 4, 2013 2:42 PM, "Harbs" wrote: > There'

Re: TLF Tables

2013-12-04 Thread Harbs
There's one more issue I'm struggling with: The way the elements were implemented is that rows are nested inside tables and cells are inside rows. Table columns are not directly connected to cells -- they are really just there to compute the position. This makes sense in the way that the tables

Re: TLF Tables

2013-12-02 Thread Alex Harui
OK, good luck. On 12/2/13 1:16 AM, "Harbs" wrote: >The way it was implemented is like this: > >1) Tables and table columns have fixed widths. (I might add a default >width if none was set to prevent runtime errors. What's a reasonable >number?) >2) Table cell parcels are created with a maximum h

Re: TLF Tables

2013-12-02 Thread Harbs
The way it was implemented is like this: 1) Tables and table columns have fixed widths. (I might add a default width if none was set to prevent runtime errors. What's a reasonable number?) 2) Table cell parcels are created with a maximum height of 8000. I'm not sure why they picked that number,

Re: TLF Tables

2013-12-01 Thread Avi Kessner
Just a random thought here, but what if you set the parcels at the end of table creation? Something like, populateParcels() which gets called after all cell sizes and positions are known, and then get placed into those rectangles? On Dec 2, 2013 7:02 AM, "Alex Harui" wrote: > Harbs, > > I haven

Re: TLF Tables

2013-12-01 Thread Alex Harui
Harbs, I haven't looked at the Table code at all. I don't remember exactly how Parcels work for the standard case, either. IMO, HTML Tables are really hard. In some cases, I think you have to compose cells multiple times in order to decide the cell widths and row heights. If your use case can

Re: TLF Tables

2013-12-01 Thread Gavriel Harbater
Some more rambling: The more I'm working through this, the more I'm convinced that the current implementation is fundamentally broken. The cell Parcels really can't be in the same ParcelList as the Containers. I'm pretty sure that not only multi-container text threads are broken, but multi-colu

Re: TLF Tables

2013-12-01 Thread Harbs
This is really difficult, because I'm not sure what is supposed to work in the current implementation. I'm trying to reverse engineer how tables work when they don't really work. Trying to sift out what I don't understand from what simply doesn't work from what is poorly implemented is a huge pa

Re: TLF Tables

2013-11-28 Thread Harbs
I'm back on this, and starting to make some (slow) progress. I've started a Google Docs document to try to make some order out of the chaos that is the current state of TLF Tables. This is just a place where I'm jotting down my findings as I go and my thoughts on direction as I work on this. I m

Re: TLF Tables

2013-09-10 Thread Harbs
My first tests are not very encouraging… Trying to compose the table results in this function returning null: static tlf_internal function beginFactoryCompose():SimpleCompose { var rslt:SimpleCompose = _factoryComposer;

Re: TLF Tables

2013-09-10 Thread OmPrakash Muppirala
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Harbs wrote: > Hi Alex, > > I realize I'll probably have my work cut out getting everything working as > it should, but it would be helpful at least understanding the design intent. > > So, if you could try to jog some memories on this, that would be great! > > E

Re: TLF Tables

2013-09-10 Thread Harbs
Hi Alex, I realize I'll probably have my work cut out getting everything working as it should, but it would be helpful at least understanding the design intent. So, if you could try to jog some memories on this, that would be great! Either way, I should be giving TLF tables a real workout over

Re: TLF Tables

2013-09-10 Thread Alex Harui
Hi Harbs, I see code for Tables, but I'm not sure it is "officially" there. Or even complete, or even working at a prototype-level. So good luck with it. I might be able to ask folks who used to work on it a few questions, but I'm pretty sure their memories of it are pretty dim by now. -Alex

Re: TLF Tables

2013-03-17 Thread Harbs
develop branch. >>> >>> -Fred >>> >>> -Message d'origine- From: Harbs >>> Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 4:08 PM >>> To: dev@flex.apache.org >>> Subject: Re: TLF Tables >>> >>> I'm trying, but I'

Re: TLF Tables

2013-03-17 Thread Michael Schmalle
flex-sdk, that's the develop branch. -Fred -Message d'origine- From: Harbs Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 4:08 PM To: dev@flex.apache.org Subject: Re: TLF Tables I'm trying, but I'm having a heck of a time wrapping my head around git? :-( TLF has the following bran

Re: TLF Tables

2013-03-17 Thread Harbs
> -Message d'origine- From: Harbs > Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 4:08 PM > To: dev@flex.apache.org > Subject: Re: TLF Tables > > I'm trying, but I'm having a heck of a time wrapping my head around git… :-( > > > TLF has the following branches: 1

Re: TLF Tables

2013-03-17 Thread Frédéric THOMAS
Hi Harbs, You should consider to checkout only the master branch to have the last code on this repo, for the flex-sdk, that's the develop branch. -Fred -Message d'origine- From: Harbs Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 4:08 PM To: dev@flex.apache.org Subject: Re: TLF Tables

Re: TLF Tables

2013-03-17 Thread Harbs
I'm trying, but I'm having a heck of a time wrapping my head around git… :-( TLF has the following branches: 1, 1.1, 2, 2.1, 3.0, HEAD and Master. Where would I look for the code? (not that I've figured out the difference between Checkout, Fetch and Pull yet…) Harbs On Mar 17, 2013, at 4:57

Re: TLF Tables

2013-03-17 Thread Alex Harui
I'd scan the source code for "Table" and see what you find. On 3/17/13 6:22 AM, "Harbs" wrote: > There were a couple of bugs in the Adobe JIRA on table support in TLF [1] [2] > These were transferred over to Apache JIRA here. [3] [4] > > There have been inferences that it was supposed to be av