Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects

2013-12-19 Thread Erik de Bruin
> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 11:33 AM > To: dev@flex.apache.org > Subject: Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects > > IMO, it is not a good idea to violate copyright and trademark law and wait > to see if you get caught, even if the remedy is simple. > > If you are a famou

Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects

2013-12-19 Thread Alex Harui
ay, December 18, 2013 11:33 AM >To: dev@flex.apache.org >Subject: Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects > >IMO, it is not a good idea to violate copyright and trademark law and wait >to see if you get caught, even if the remedy is simple. > >If you are a famous celebrity and happen to b

RE: Flex Showcase legal aspects

2013-12-19 Thread Kessler CTR Mark J
ve. -Mark -Original Message- From: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 11:33 AM To: dev@flex.apache.org Subject: Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects IMO, it is not a good idea to violate copyright and trademark law and wait to see if you get caught, even if the

Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects

2013-12-18 Thread Alex Harui
show X. -Alex > >Maurice > >-Message d'origine- >De : rx labz [mailto:rxl...@gmail.com] De la part de Erick Ghaumez >Envoyé : mercredi 18 décembre 2013 23:35 >À : dev@flex.apache.org >Objet : Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects > >Maybe i can blur all the l

Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects

2013-12-18 Thread Jeffry Houser
To counter your point about commercial use never being fair use:; I'll quote TechDirt ( http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20131125/10182325360/beastie-boys-say-they-dont-want-music-ads-fair-use-doesnt-care.shtml ) quoting a Supreme Court ruling ( http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/510/

Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects

2013-12-18 Thread Nicholas Kwiatkowski
Fair Use is pretty limited in the USA, and is usually regarded in terms of education or personal use. Advertisement is generally not allowed under fair-use but again, that is something for the legal-beagles to determine ;) -Nick On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, >

RE: Flex Showcase legal aspects

2013-12-18 Thread Maurice Amsellem
t was suggested. Maurice -Message d'origine- De : rx labz [mailto:rxl...@gmail.com] De la part de Erick Ghaumez Envoyé : mercredi 18 décembre 2013 23:35 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects Maybe i can blur all the logos and pictures in screenshots, and maybe the

Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects

2013-12-18 Thread Erick Ghaumez
sssoftware.com] > Envoyé : mercredi 18 décembre 2013 23:14 > À : dev@flex.apache.org > Objet : Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects > > Hi, > > Under US law there is also a fair use provision, which the showcase would > probably come under (and permission is not required), but it IMO always best > to ask. > > Thanks, > Justin

RE: Flex Showcase legal aspects

2013-12-18 Thread Maurice Amsellem
Mclean [mailto:jus...@classsoftware.com] Envoyé : mercredi 18 décembre 2013 23:14 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects Hi, Under US law there is also a fair use provision, which the showcase would probably come under (and permission is not required), but it IMO always best to ask. Thanks, Justin

Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects

2013-12-18 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, Under US law there is also a fair use provision, which the showcase would probably come under (and permission is not required), but it IMO always best to ask. Thanks, Justin

Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects

2013-12-18 Thread Nicholas Kwiatkowski
gt;>> > >>> -Alex > >>> > >>> On 12/18/13 5:12 AM, "Maurice Amsellem" > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Thanks, Eric, > >>>> But Apache tends to "wary" about legal stuff, so I pre

Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects

2013-12-18 Thread Alex Harui
On 12/18/13 12:22 PM, "Erick Ghaumez" wrote: >As I¹ve said, the owner is « big » TV group, my contract is with a >subsidiary company in charge of digital projects. I don¹t know if the one >who signs my contract is legally authorized to give this permission. But >if I understand, if he gives one,

Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects

2013-12-18 Thread Erick Ghaumez
wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks, Eric, >>>> But Apache tends to "wary" about legal stuff, so I prefer to ask for >>>> team >>>> advice. >>>> >>>> Maurice >>>> >>>> -Message d'origine

RE: Flex Showcase legal aspects

2013-12-18 Thread Maurice Amsellem
Done. (bot update pending) -Message d'origine- De : Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com] Envoyé : mercredi 18 décembre 2013 17:49 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects Yes, that would probably be the safe thing to do. Thanks and sorry for the hassle,

Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects

2013-12-18 Thread Alex Harui
On 12/18/13 5:12 AM, "Maurice Amsellem" >> wrote: >> >>> Thanks, Eric, >>> But Apache tends to "wary" about legal stuff, so I prefer to ask for >>>team >>> advice. >>> >>> Maurice >>> >>> -

Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects

2013-12-18 Thread Alex Harui
ile waiting for the legal stuff to be >fixed.? > >Maurice >-Message d'origine- >De : Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com] >Envoyé : mercredi 18 décembre 2013 17:33 >À : dev@flex.apache.org >Objet : Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects > >IMO, it is not a good ide

RE: Flex Showcase legal aspects

2013-12-18 Thread Maurice Amsellem
:33 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects IMO, it is not a good idea to violate copyright and trademark law and wait to see if you get caught, even if the remedy is simple. If you are a famous celebrity and happen to buy a particular brand of clothing and someone see

Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects

2013-12-18 Thread Alex Harui
rom >>the owners. > >Also what I think. thanks > > >-Message d'origine- >De : Kessler CTR Mark J [mailto:mark.kessler@usmc.mil] >Envoyé : mercredi 18 décembre 2013 16:11 >À : dev@flex.apache.org >Objet : RE: Flex Showcase legal aspects > >Ma

RE: Flex Showcase legal aspects

2013-12-18 Thread Maurice Amsellem
mercredi 18 décembre 2013 16:11 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : RE: Flex Showcase legal aspects Maybe we should add them in good faith of being in compliance with the screen shots and just remove any based on valid take down requests from the owners. -Mark

RE: Flex Showcase legal aspects

2013-12-18 Thread Kessler CTR Mark J
Maybe we should add them in good faith of being in compliance with the screen shots and just remove any based on valid take down requests from the owners. -Mark

RE: Flex Showcase legal aspects

2013-12-18 Thread Maurice Amsellem
écembre 2013 16:01 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects I obviously understand these legal doubts, but IMHO for the use of this 3 screenshots, it will be endless. What kind of permission can be legal ? Is there a template document somewhere ? I can ask to the M6Web's

Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects

2013-12-18 Thread Erick Ghaumez
ache tends to "wary" about legal stuff, so I prefer to ask for team >> advice. >> >> Maurice >> >> -Message d'origine- >> De : rx labz [mailto:rxl...@gmail.com] De la part de Erick Ghaumez >> Envoyé : mercredi 18 décembre 2013 13:39

RE: Flex Showcase legal aspects

2013-12-18 Thread Maurice Amsellem
 : Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects We can ask on legal-discuss if you want to be certain, but I would guess the answer is yes, we need permission from the owner. But Erick is probably not wrong about the taking of screenshots either. My thought experiment is this: If I was hired to paint the ou

Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects

2013-12-18 Thread Alex Harui
>De : rx labz [mailto:rxl...@gmail.com] De la part de Erick Ghaumez >Envoyé : mercredi 18 décembre 2013 13:39 >À : dev@flex.apache.org >Objet : Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects > >Hi, > >i'm working on this project, and since it's a public website, i think >it'

RE: Flex Showcase legal aspects

2013-12-18 Thread Maurice Amsellem
Thanks, Eric, But Apache tends to "wary" about legal stuff, so I prefer to ask for team advice. Maurice -Message d'origine- De : rx labz [mailto:rxl...@gmail.com] De la part de Erick Ghaumez Envoyé : mercredi 18 décembre 2013 13:39 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : Re

Re: Flex Showcase legal aspects

2013-12-18 Thread Erick Ghaumez
Hi, i’m working on this project, and since it’s a public website, i think it’s absolutly not illegal to display screenshots. Erick Le 18 déc. 2013 à 13:34, Maurice Amsellem a écrit : > Hi, > > A few app submissions (eg. "6play" > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-34005 ) are made

Flex Showcase legal aspects

2013-12-18 Thread Maurice Amsellem
Hi, A few app submissions (eg. "6play" https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-34005 ) are made by what looks like developers sub-contracting for another company. Do you think there is a legal issue to include these apps (eg. the screenshots) without the permission of the owning company (m6