On 3/26/14 7:56 AM, "Kessler CTR Mark J" wrote:
>>We have 15 applications in total. These are all web based flex/flash
>>based medium business level applications that are data driven. It is
>>unrealistic for us to do a large conversion to JS of any type at this
>>point. However it will alway
I'm definitely not a marketing person so suggestions are welcome. We
should probably start another thread on it. I like the FlexJS name right
now because I think it is important to get the attention of the JS
developers, but maybe there's a better or additional tag line besides
"Flex for JavaScri
I would like to see FlexJS advertised more as a way to expand Flex, rather
than to replace ActionScript or Flash.
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On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 6:35 PM, Alex Harui wrote:
> Ok, I will remove the "Flash-based solutions no longer desirable"
>
x27;s matured enough.
-Mark
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Hi,
> Maybe I am too idealistic, but I think if FlexJS does become the most
> efficient
My 2 cents:
I see no reason for folks to not adopt FlexJS, if we do good marketing.
Also, I had voiced this opinion earlier - FlexJS is a new SDK being built
from scratch. Forgetting the JS part, it is a chance to right a lot of
wrongs that have been accumulated with the current Flex SDK (which
You are welcome to your option/opinion, but the few folks I've talked to
make me think differently.
Some folks haven't moved from Flex to JS and if they decide to move
someday will be a lot of work and if FlexJS is less work, we become a
viable choice. It is important to set expectations. If we m
Hi,
> Maybe I am too idealistic, but I think if FlexJS does become the most
> efficient way to make money selling RIAs and mobile apps, some of those
> folks will come back.
My option on this is this:
Unless it's a drop in 1 for 1 replacement I don't think the take up is going to
be huge. Peopl
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Hi,
> While we should be proud of our install numbers, I think they may be more
> related to the transition from Adobe Flex to Apache Flex for folks with
> established Flex projects.
That's probably correct but we have seen increasing numbers of installs for
each version released.
> There was
Hi,
> Anybody besides Maurice think I need to change or remove the "Flex without
> Flash"?
Yes IMO as FlexJS is not really Flex as people understand it.
Justin
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Oh ... will go through the presentation again and correct the Flex SDK Thing
... I took the numbers Justin posted a few days ago ... if it's 4 that's
great and I'll update that too ... wanted to add a note that it will be more as
to try.
Yes of course :-)
Maurice
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On 3/25/14 11:07 AM, "Maurice Amsellem"
wrote:
>> We'll know we are t
On 3/25/14 11:07 AM, "Maurice Amsellem"
wrote:
>> We'll know we are truly on our way to success when we start hearing
>>from those folks again.
>
>I agree with the first sentence : I also think current users of Apache
>Flex are related to "established Flex projects", that moved from Adobe to
>A
Objective C.
What do you think?
Maurice
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While we should be proud of our install numbers, I think they may be more
related to the trans
Ok, I will remove the "Flash-based solutions no longer desirable"
Anybody besides Maurice think I need to change or remove the "Flex without
Flash"?
-Alex
On 3/24/14 11:52 PM, "Deepak MS" wrote:
>I looked into this slide:
>Why FlexJS?
>
>Adobe Flash Player used to be in every browser
>Adobe AI
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On 3/25/14 1:44 AM, "Christofer Dutz" wrote:
>Hi Justin ...
>
>Have to admit that it seems to be easier to extend Flexmojos than
>dropping that dam shadow ;-)
>Tried the "Shadow" effect, but that added even more shadow ... it was
>somehow part of the template they gave us ... perhaps Alex can
r starting
it and for the noise.
Maurice
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But I think it's not only appearance ... that's the Point. At least wh
Cool.
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Found out how to do it ... great you have 1000 Places where you can add shadows
in PowerPoint ... it wa
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Von: Justin Mclean
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Hi,
> Have to admit that it seems to be easier to extend Flexmojos than dropping
> that dam shadow ;-)
Know what you mean I open have many "stand back I&
e. But
perhaps that's only my Interpretation.
Chris
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>What did you want to Point out on slide 11?
I mean skinning is on the appear
Hi,
> Have to admit that it seems to be easier to extend Flexmojos than dropping
> that dam shadow ;-)
Know what you mean I open have many "stand back I'm using photoshop" moments :-)
Justin
alog
and the other in step by step wizard,
Exceeds the usual scope of skinning (which does not mean it's not possible).
Maurice
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Just checked again ... IntelliJ IDEA (Community) doesn't Support ActionScript
and Flex ... so it is only the Ultimate Version:
http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/features/editions_comparison_matrix.html
Chris
If you can send me the ppt or pptx, I could remove the text shadow and send it
back to you.
Maurice
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März 2014 10:35
An: dev@flex.apache.org
Betreff: RE: ApacheCon Slides
Few remarks:
Slide 6: "Native Applications" => "Native mobile applications" , to avoid the
confusion with AIR apps.
Slide 7:
Desktop + Web + Mobile
Slide 8:
the green smiley should not cover the
Jup
Von: Maurice Amsellem
Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. März 2014 10:37
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What software are you using for the slides? Powerpoint ?
Maurice
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De : Christofer
es
[Metadata] and Y uses ... Something like that?
But thanks for the Feedback ... I'll probably update the slides this evening.
Chris
Von: Maurice Amsellem
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What software are you using for the slides? Powerpoint ?
Maurice
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Hi Justin ...
Have to admit that it seems to be e
many DI/IOC frameworks for Flex.
Overall, greate presentation, thanks
Maurice
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Hi Guys,
I just uploaded my stuf a few minut
Hi,
> @Deepak MS Flex is so popular - I don't think so, maybe in US or China. Here
> in Poland I got serious difficulties to found proper job as a Flex developer
JFYI since we've released 4.12 China and USA account for 400+ installs each,
and there's been 66 installs in Poland (out of a total of
nstall could be used by a lot of
users.
Chris
Von: omup...@gmail.com im Auftrag von OmPrakash Muppirala
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Chris, a couple of points:
1. You seem to switch be
t that too had a shadow ;-)
Chris
Von: Justin Mclean
Gesendet: Montag, 24. März 2014 23:58
An: dev@flex.apache.org
Betreff: Re: ApacheCon Slides
Hi,
> I just uploaded my stuf a few minutes ago:
> http://events.linuxfoundation.org/sites/events/files
http://apache-flex-development.2333347.n4.nabble.com/ApacheCon-Slides-tp36258p36299.html
Sent from the Apache Flex Development mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Yes, I agree with you.
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Envoyé : mardi 25 mars 2014 07:52
À : dev@flex.apache.org
Objet : Re: ApacheCon Slides
I looked into this slide:
Why FlexJS?
Adobe Flash Player used to be in every browser Adobe AIR used t
I looked into this slide:
Why FlexJS?
Adobe Flash Player used to be in every browser
Adobe AIR used to run on most computers
Executives no longer carry Flash-capable devices
AIR apps require installation and upgrades
AIR apps have some fidelity issues
Flash-based solutions no longer desirable
Larg
Hi,
> 2. The numbers on slide 32 is a outdated. We have more than 40,000
> installs of the Flex SDK since we started keeping track.
BTW where do you get the 40,000 number from. I can only see 30,000 in the
google stats. That only include 4.9 and up are you including 4.8 in that and if
so how d
Hi,
Also I think both slide decks need a little more branding (Apache Flex and ASF
logos) and of course the trademark statement and a link to flex.a.o wouldn't go
astray.
Remember more than just attendees of ApacheCon will see these.
Thanks,
Justin
about
it. The ApacheCon presentations could definitely be used to spread these
messages.
Thanks,
Om
> WDYT?
>
> Maurice
>
> -Message d'origine-
> De : omup...@gmail.com [mailto:omup...@gmail.com] De la part de OmPrakash
> Muppirala
> Envoyé : lundi 24 mars 2014 23
Chris, a couple of points:
1. You seem to switch between the terms 'Flex SDK' and 'FDK' midpoint in
the presentation. I think we should all be consistently using the term
'Flex SDK'.
2. The numbers on slide 32 is a outdated. We have more than 40,000
installs of the Flex SDK since we started kee
Hi,
> I just uploaded my stuf a few minutes ago:
> http://events.linuxfoundation.org/sites/events/files/slides/Building%20Enterprise%20Level%20Applications%20with%20Apache%20Flex%20and%20Java-v9-20140313_1547.pdf
Lots of info + liking the positive tone you have going there :-)
You may want to co
Flex does not run on iOS and Android".
It happened around me many times.
WDYT?
Maurice
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Muppirala
Envoyé : lundi 24 mars 2014 23:28
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sirable' platform.
Flash/AIR has a lot of positives(technically speaking). The only negative
it has is that it does not run on iOS and Android browsers. Perhaps we
point to that fact that FlexJS solves this problem so that folks can
continue to keep one single codebase for all major platfor
On 3/24/14 3:21 PM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" wrote:
>On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 1:52 PM, Alex Harui wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the feedback. That diagram is a bit lower-level than I was
>> going to go, but I'm interested to hear why that's an important piece
>>for
>> folks attending a 45 minute session
On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 1:52 PM, Alex Harui wrote:
> Thanks for the feedback. That diagram is a bit lower-level than I was
> going to go, but I'm interested to hear why that's an important piece for
> folks attending a 45 minute session. I do have another diagram from my
> 360|Stack slides that
Hi,
> Hmm. I think the whole point of FlexJS is to create a framework that runs
> without Flash and a key factor is the impact from decisions and statements
> made by Jobs and Adobe. Are you saying that enough time has passed that
> these decisions and statements are no longer a factor?
IMO 4
d" ears.
Will it decrease the value of FlexJS, if you don't say that "Flash is not
desirable anymore"?
What do others think?
Maurice
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Envoyé : lundi 24 mars 2014 21:42
À : dev@flex.apache.org
Objet
e.com]
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An: dev@flex.apache.org
Betreff: ApacheCon Slides
ApacheCon required that we upload our slide decks by today. I just posted my
slides. If you have time, please take a look and let me know if you think I
should make changes. The FlexJS session is essent
Thanks for the feedback. That diagram is a bit lower-level than I was
going to go, but I'm interested to hear why that's an important piece for
folks attending a 45 minute session. I do have another diagram from my
360|Stack slides that tries to show the class substitution done by the
compiler th
+1 for the mobile improvements
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Muppirala
Envoyé : lundi 24 mars 2014 21:13
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Objet : Re: ApacheCon Slides
I would like to see mention of all the activities around
On 3/24/14 1:30 PM, "Maurice Amsellem" wrote:
>Flex.pdf
>Page 6: "Eclipse-based IDE" => not only (IDEA, FlashDevelop, etc..)
>
>Overall, the impression it gave me is that it's not describing "what's
>happening in Apache Flex Project", but rather an advertisement to attract
>new developers by t
ing harsh, but I think we have had enough with Steve Jobs and Abobe
PR.
Maurice
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ApacheCon required that we upload our slide decks by today. I ju
For FlexJS, it would be nice if you can use the beads/strands diagrams from
here [1]
They do a good job of explaining the concepts visually.
Thanks,
Om
[1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLEX/Creating+Components
On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 1:12 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala
wrote:
> I would
Looks good @Alex.
I just hope that the full session, including the apps on your demo for
both sessions would be available to everyone after the event.
On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 2:12 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala
wrote:
> I would like to see mention of all the activities around Flex Mobile:
>
> - New c
I would like to see mention of all the activities around Flex Mobile:
- New components/features (Mobile Grid, Scrollable text)
- iOS7 status bar support
- Support for low res (120DPI) and hi-res (480, 640 DPI) devices
- CSS-Media queries for OS version
- CSS-Media queries for device dimensions
- N
ApacheCon required that we upload our slide decks by today. I just posted
my slides. If you have time, please take a look and let me know if you
think I should make changes. The FlexJS session is essentially the same
as the 360|Stack presentation from last year.
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