Hi,
The binary releases are just a connivence, the real release is actually the
source code.
We could have a PDF version of the release notes for connivence of non dev
types (just like the binaries) as long as:
- someone wants to create it
- people are willing to keep it up to date (and it woul
*"The idea that you should have your hands tied by whether or not your
marketing collateral can be disseminated in an Apache Release Bundle is
simply ludicrous."*
But Terry, Apache decided what way worked best long ago! There's no need
for improvements. How could any new ideas or nicely formatted
It wasn't "official marketing" or buggy code. The problem was the
non-official marketing. I.e. , Adobe's CEO and other decision makers
deciding to abandon Flash and to give mixed messages to companies as to
whether or not it would continue to be supported and how.
They would rather people buy th
Release notes == plain text
Reason for loss of Flash/Flex market share, not marketing, because
there was plenty of that - messy, inconsistent, amateur platform,
tools, and buggy runtime.
Has anyone in Adobe middle management every actually worked as a
developer, or is that something they look dow
Yes, I am well aware of the strictures which affect the way you use the
facilities of the Apache Software Foundation to further the cause of
producing a very useful set of software upon which thousands of us rely. I
only tried to respond in this forum to a request for updates to your
existing rele
Just to be clear, we do accept documents in PDF form, we just wont be able
to put it in the release. As Alex mentioned, you can attach your original
PDF to a JIRA ticket and that would come through perfectly fine. Also, we
can drop the PDF file on the website and link to it from our release notes
I did not get an email address that I could use and instead of opening a
JIRA issue, I have just updated the HTML from your current web page to add
the equivalent list of points that you have defined as your prototype for
the other options. Please note that in that paradigm, most of the points
for
It was instructive when your new marketing guru arrived and the first
message was "I write press releases, I don't do CSS and HTML." I
understand where he is coming from, so I think there is a bigger issue by
which the team's interpretation of "The Apache Way" as implying some sort
of Least Commo
And feel free to attach the PDF to a JIRA issue. Maybe we'll just put it
on the site and link to it from our plain text files.
Thanks for contributing,
-Alex
On 7/25/13 1:08 AM, "Erik de Bruin" wrote:
>Terry,
>
>First: thank you for you excellent contribution!
>
>Please keep in mind we're all
Terry,
It would be great if you could write up some instructions like we've done
for the other IDEs, to match http://flex.apache.org/doc-getstarted.html.
My hope is to expand this tutorial one day, but my time has been split
with other projects... I don't have much experience with FlashDevelop,
Terry,
First: thank you for you excellent contribution!
Please keep in mind we're all volunteers and have to work within the
framework Apache.org provides us. While this sometimes limits us, I
think the pros far outweigh the cons. I might be helpful to check what
the possibilities are and discuss
This is absolutely antediluvian. An author spends several hours composing
a document to help you market your product and you can only accept 7-bit
ASCII. LibreOffice is a pretty decent open source project that produces a
world-class result, but they do not give me an Export option to reduce a
tho
Hi,
> I would hate to dredge up the thread on geek versus business,
:-) If we want it to be part of a release it really needs to be in plan text,
HTML (and similar) is fine for the web site or wiki. PDFs while they do look
great don't encourage collaboration as they are hard to edit, hard to
I would hate to dredge up the thread on geek versus business, but you can't
tell me that people are reduced to providing first-class product
documentation in plain-text emails using 7-bit ASCII. Ok, then I will dump
out the PDF document as plain text and I am sorry for whomever has to try
to work
HI,
> So how do I get you a ready-for release PDF document with formatting and
> fonts chosen for readability?
Plain text only please - I'm not sure what we could do with a PDF document.
Justin
So how do I get you a ready-for release PDF document with formatting and
fonts chosen for readability? If I put it inside a zip file will your
system accept it?
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 11:28 PM, Justin Mclean wrote:
> HI,
>
>
> > Sensible folks from Sydney
> 4:30 pm here :-)
>
> > so here is a
HI,
> Sensible folks from Sydney
4:30 pm here :-)
> so here is a revised draft for you to use as you see fit on the morrow.
The attachments are being stripped from the mailing list so if you wouldn't
mind sending again without an attachment that would be good.
Thanks,
Justin
Sensible folks from Sydney to Sindelfingen no doubt are asleep, so here is
a revised draft for you to use as you see fit on the morrow.
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 6:53 PM, Justin Mclean wrote:
> HI,
>
> > As mentioned by others FlashDevelop not only automatically fetches the
> Adobe 23201B build fo
Hi,
> that works best with the telemetry
As an aside Apache Flex 4.10 supports advanced telemetry, it was added to the
"old" mxmlc compiler.
Justin
On 7/24/13 10:00 PM, "Terry Corbet" wrote:
>
>It should be at the top of the priority list, not buried where it is as
>something nice to have circa 2015.
It is one of my top items, and I hope to see it released before 2015.
I would hope to motivate you to NOT delay the testing and release.
First, Gordon did announce to the list his return from vacation, but poor
soul, he was stuck with having to try to swallow all those weeks of
svn-2-get migration and it's not clear from the postings that he ever
succeeded in gettin
See if the attached, first draft, is something like what you want.
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 6:53 PM, Justin Mclean wrote:
> HI,
>
> > As mentioned by others FlashDevelop not only automatically fetches the
> Adobe 23201B build for you
> Can you suggest some text that expands on "When using Flash d
On 7/24/13 6:45 PM, "Terry Corbet" wrote:
> What has become of
>anything having to do with Gordon's getting it possible to compile an
>ApacheFlex/AIR application with the new compiler so that we can take
>advantage of the performance optimizations it enables? With all the
>coverage that has bee
I know, by reading your postings 24x7, that you never sleep 'downunder',
but the FlashDevelp folks are in Europe. So, I'll make this promise in San
Jose time, that I will provide instructions for FlashDevelop if I cannot
get the owners of that software to do it directly by copying them on this
thr
HI,
> As mentioned by others FlashDevelop not only automatically fetches the Adobe
> 23201B build for you
Can you suggest some text that expands on "When using Flash develop there no
need to package the SDK as handles that for you"?
Perhaps a good idea would be to provide installation instructi
As mentioned by others FlashDevelop not only automatically fetches the
Adobe 23201B build for you, but more importantly they build both a template
for using the old compiler for Flash Applications and the new one for AIR
applications. When the Apache Flex framework is ready to go, they will
provid
On 7/24/13 5:04 PM, "Mark Kessler" wrote:
>Could be an interesting point if they stop hosting Adobe Flex 4.6 some day
>:P
Quite true, so it really should be on our task list to eliminate our
dependencies on Adobe stuff over the next 3.5 years. Plus, every time I
wait for Adobe Flex to download
Hi,
> Could be an interesting point if they stop hosting Adobe Flex 4.6 some day
If and when that happen I'm sure we can sort out a solution.
Justin
Could be an interesting point if they stop hosting Adobe Flex 4.6 some day
:P
-Mark
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 7:03 PM, Justin Mclean wrote:
> HI,
>
> > when we execute "constructForIDE" script we need to provide an Adobe Flex
> > SDK 4.6.0 I think this dependency is not so good for our new Apache
HI,
> when we execute "constructForIDE" script we need to provide an Adobe Flex
> SDK 4.6.0 I think this dependency is not so good for our new Apache way out
> of Adobe.
It's their for convenience we don't have to use it. :-)
We don't have a way to compile all the missing bits so we still need t
Hi,
when we execute "constructForIDE" script we need to provide an Adobe Flex
SDK 4.6.0
I think this dependency is not so good for our new Apache way out of Adobe.
Seeing the log:
Copying the AIR SDK files to directory ../
Copying AIR SDK license.pdf
Copying AIR SDK Readme.txt
Copying bin/adl.ex
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