[OT] Aligning commercial interests with Apache Flex (was) RE: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

2013-02-12 Thread Guthmann, Scott
> Hi, > - ActionScript/Flex support is included in IntelliJ IDEA Ultimate Edition > only [1] > - 30-day free fully functional trial period [2]. Afterwards you can ask > sa...@jetbrains.com to extend trial period. > - members of open source projects (e.g. Apache Flex committers) can apply for > a

Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

2013-02-12 Thread Avi Kessner
hanks, >> -Fred >> >> -Message d'origine- From: Alexander Doroshko >> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 3:19 PM >> To: dev@flex.apache.org >> Subject: Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains >> >> Sorry, forgot one more important link. Dev

Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

2013-02-12 Thread Frédéric THOMAS
Yeah Nick, I thought a link could fit into the Designer & Developer Tools page of the wiki maybe as well with a screenshot :) -Fred -Message d'origine- From: Nicholas Kwiatkowski Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 4:56 PM To: dev@flex.apache.org Subject: Re: [OT] Interes

Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

2013-02-12 Thread Nicholas Kwiatkowski
I'd love to host this information on either our Wiki or website too. -Nick On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Alexander Doroshko < alexander.doros...@jetbrains.com> wrote: > Two blog posts would definitely be better than one :) > > > On 12.02.2013 19:37, Avi Kessner wrote: > >> A blog post would

Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

2013-02-12 Thread Alexander Doroshko
Two blog posts would definitely be better than one :) On 12.02.2013 19:37, Avi Kessner wrote: A blog post would be great, I was about to make one myself.

Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

2013-02-12 Thread Avi Kessner
t to my >> favorites. >> >> Thanks, >> -Fred >> >> -Message d'origine- From: Alexander Doroshko >> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 3:19 PM >> To: dev@flex.apache.org >> Subject: Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains >> >

Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

2013-02-12 Thread Alexander Doroshko
like to add it to my favorites. Thanks, -Fred -Message d'origine- From: Alexander Doroshko Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 3:19 PM To: dev@flex.apache.org Subject: Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains Sorry, forgot one more important link. Developers familiar with Eclip

Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

2013-02-12 Thread Frédéric THOMAS
apache.org Subject: Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains Sorry, forgot one more important link. Developers familiar with Eclipse and Eclipse-based products should first of all take a look at the page 'IntelliJ IDEA vs Eclipse Terminology' [1] and keep a link to 'Basic

Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

2013-02-12 Thread Alexander Doroshko
Sorry, forgot one more important link. Developers familiar with Eclipse and Eclipse-based products should first of all take a look at the page 'IntelliJ IDEA vs Eclipse Terminology' [1] and keep a link to 'Basic Concepts' [2]. [1] http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/webhelp/intellij-idea-vs-eclipse

Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

2013-02-12 Thread Lee Burrows
That info could tip me over to IDEA - was thinking i needed commercial license but looks like personal is ok for me On 12/02/2013 13:38, Alexander Doroshko wrote: Hi, - ActionScript/Flex support is included in IntelliJ IDEA Ultimate Edition only [1] - 30-day free fully functional trial period

Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

2013-02-12 Thread Alexander Doroshko
Hi, - ActionScript/Flex support is included in IntelliJ IDEA Ultimate Edition only [1] - 30-day free fully functional trial period [2]. Afterwards you can ask sa...@jetbrains.com to extend trial period. - members of open source projects (e.g. Apache Flex committers) can apply for a free license

Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

2013-02-12 Thread Nicholas Kwiatkowski
Reply Inline: On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 7:32 AM, Jagan Langa Sami Durai wrote: > I thought to try the IDEA for my flex development, after seeing a lot of > discussions in this group and in linkedlin about the comparison between > IDEA and FB. I'm using FB for past 5 years (From FB3 to FB4.7). I re

Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

2013-02-12 Thread Cosma Colanicchia
Community doesn't include Flex support, you need the Ultimate, see [1] for feature comparison. Ultimate edition comes with 30-days free trial, see [2]. [1] http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/features/editions_comparison_matrix.html [2] http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/download/index.html 2013/2/12 Jaga

Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

2013-02-12 Thread Jagan Langa Sami Durai
I thought to try the IDEA for my flex development, after seeing a lot of discussions in this group and in linkedlin about the comparison between IDEA and FB. I'm using FB for past 5 years (From FB3 to FB4.7). I really don't know where to start in IDEA. I downloaded the community version and install

Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

2013-02-08 Thread Charles Monteiro
that was certainly the case for me, the only thing that FB has over IDEA in my opinion is the Designer and that's gone. On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 7:13 AM, Avi Kessner wrote: > I can say that I keep wanting to try the jetbrains IDE but haven't found > the time to wrap my head around the different wo

Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

2013-02-08 Thread Maxime Cowez
a workaround in a matter of minutes. (sorry, hit the send button while typing the previous mail) Max On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Maxime Cowez wrote: > @Avi It took me about a week to get my productiveness back to the level it > was when I used FB. After that it only kept going up :) > Inc

Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

2013-02-08 Thread Maxime Cowez
@Avi It took me about a week to get my productiveness back to the level it was when I used FB. After that it only kept going up :) Incidentally, one of the many advantages of IntelliJ is the help you can get from people like Alexander (as he just proved). As an example, I just recently filed this b

Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

2013-02-08 Thread Nicholas Kwiatkowski
Thanks for your support. I'm one of those who use it every day and in all honesty, since I've started using it about a year ago, there are very few bugs or issues I run across that I'd even be willing to report :) Your team has been extremely responsive to getting those issues fixed and making th

Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

2013-02-08 Thread Alexander Doroshko
Feel free to ping me for any kind of assistance and for pushing your favorite bugs/features that you want to be fixed/implemented. Alexander On 08.02.2013 16:13, Avi Kessner wrote: I can say that I keep wanting to try the jetbrains IDE but haven't found the time to wrap my head around the diff

Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

2013-02-08 Thread Avi Kessner
I can say that I keep wanting to try the jetbrains IDE but haven't found the time to wrap my head around the different workflow. From everything I hear, once you get used to it, it's a superior IDE brought to you by the letters A, V, and I and the number 47 On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Alexa

Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

2013-02-08 Thread Alexander Doroshko
Hi, I'm the author of that blog post. Marketing guys asked me not to give numbers, but I hope they do not read this mailing list :). So I can say that IntelliJ IDEA has several thousand of active ActionScript/Flex developers who agreed to send anonymous usage statistics to JetBrains and they ru

RE: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

2013-01-09 Thread Kessler CTR Mark J
stat from JetBrains We probably could ask them somehow off list since this project could be a huge boost of revenue for them when it turns the corner. Seeing as the compiler is opensource, I can see major benefits from them embracing Apache Flex, which in my opinion they already have. Mike

Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

2013-01-09 Thread Michael Schmalle
We probably could ask them somehow off list since this project could be a huge boost of revenue for them when it turns the corner. Seeing as the compiler is opensource, I can see major benefits from them embracing Apache Flex, which in my opinion they already have. Mike Quoting Omar Gonzal

Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

2013-01-09 Thread Omar Gonzalez
It's nice to see it on the uprise, but there's no numbers. They could be talking 10-20 users per month or thousands. Not to be a negative nancy but I wonder what the actual numbers are. -omar On Wednesday, January 9, 2013, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote: > They are seeing the use of Flash/Flex actua

Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

2013-01-09 Thread Alex Harui
On 1/9/13 8:12 AM, "Nicholas Kwiatkowski" wrote: > I don't think the CGI has write permissions to the disk (and I don't think > my perl kung-fu is good enough to make a DB connection to -- somewhere?). See: http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html#stats -- Alex Harui Flex SDK Team Adobe System

Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

2013-01-09 Thread Nicholas Kwiatkowski
I don't think the CGI has write permissions to the disk (and I don't think my perl kung-fu is good enough to make a DB connection to -- somewhere?). I can't believe that none of the projects are tracking downloads... -Nick On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Alex Harui wrote: > > > > On 1/9/13 5:

Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

2013-01-09 Thread Alex Harui
On 1/9/13 5:12 AM, "Nicholas Kwiatkowski" wrote: > True -- but we do tunnel all of our downloads through the mirror.cgi, which > then refers to the mirrors. It wouldn't be complete (some people may > download directly from the mirrors), but it would be a fun stat to see how > we are doing as

Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

2013-01-09 Thread Nicholas Kwiatkowski
True -- but we do tunnel all of our downloads through the mirror.cgi, which then refers to the mirrors. It wouldn't be complete (some people may download directly from the mirrors), but it would be a fun stat to see how we are doing as a community. -Nick On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Bertrand

Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

2013-01-09 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote: > ...Does anybody know if Apache keeps stats as to the package downloads?... I don't know, but that wouldn't be very relevant anyway as downloads are mirrored outside of apache.org. -Bertrand

Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

2013-01-09 Thread Сергей aSt Егоров
21% for Maven is awesome! Can't wait for 100% ;) On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote: > They are seeing the use of Flash/Flex actually go up since the beginning of > last year... > > http://blogs.jetbrains.com/idea/2013/01/how-is-flash-doing/ > > It might be a fact that p

Re: [OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

2013-01-09 Thread Carlos Rovira
Great new! thanks to share Nicholas :) 2013/1/9 Nicholas Kwiatkowski > They are seeing the use of Flash/Flex actually go up since the beginning of > last year... > > http://blogs.jetbrains.com/idea/2013/01/how-is-flash-doing/ > > It might be a fact that people are dumping FB, or it might be a si

[OT] Interesting stat from JetBrains

2013-01-09 Thread Nicholas Kwiatkowski
They are seeing the use of Flash/Flex actually go up since the beginning of last year... http://blogs.jetbrains.com/idea/2013/01/how-is-flash-doing/ It might be a fact that people are dumping FB, or it might be a sign that the community is getting stronger... Either way, I'm glad that we are act