Re: [FlexJS] PAYG definitions and guidance, Please participate

2017-07-03 Thread Greg Dove
Really pleased to see the input from you all, and thanks for the revisions and corrections so far. "To me it's a bit difficult to digest in its current format. I would prefer to see a list of design patterns with descriptions of concrete problems and proposed solutions." I definitely agree. I had

Re: [FlexJS] PAYG definitions and guidance, Please participate

2017-07-03 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > You could be right that folks are just too used to the old Flex way of > thinking. If you've never hit the performance and size issues I've seen > then maybe you can't understand the motivation behind it, but that might > mean the active committers are self-selected. I’ve worked on many la

Re: [FlexJS] PAYG definitions and guidance, Please participate

2017-07-03 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, Thanks for that Greg and good to see it started some conversation around this. Thanks, Justin

Re: [FlexJS] PAYG definitions and guidance, Please participate

2017-07-02 Thread Harbs
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Re: [FlexJS] PAYG definitions and guidance, Please participate

2017-07-02 Thread yishayw
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Re: [FlexJS] PAYG definitions and guidance, Please participate

2017-07-02 Thread yishayw
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Re: [FlexJS] PAYG definitions and guidance, Please participate

2017-07-02 Thread Harbs
I agree with this. If I had to pick the single-most difficult thing when migrating from Flex to FlexJS, it would be layout. The new layout beads are definitely improved over the older ones, but layout is not always necessarily as intuitive or performant as it might be. On the one hand, we don’

Re: [FlexJS] PAYG definitions and guidance, Please participate

2017-07-02 Thread Harbs
Great start. I just made some additions and changes. Hopefully I helped make it clearer and not the other way around… ;-) I just want to say, that while PAYG is hard both from a framework development perspective and from an application development perspective, I firmly believe that strict adhe

Re: [FlexJS] PAYG definitions and guidance, Please participate

2017-07-01 Thread Alex Harui
Hi Greg, You could be right that folks are just too used to the old Flex way of thinking. If you've never hit the performance and size issues I've seen then maybe you can't understand the motivation behind it, but that might mean the active committers are self-selected. I don't think we have rep

Re: [FlexJS] PAYG definitions and guidance, Please participate

2017-07-01 Thread Greg Dove
Thanks Alex, I look forward to your feedback. It would be great to see (from you or anyone else) - within this thread - suggested improvements/corrections or other topics that should be added, or questions that should be addressed. I know there are areas that need improvement in a number of are

Re: [FlexJS] PAYG definitions and guidance, Please participate

2017-07-01 Thread Alex Harui
Hi Greg, Thanks for writing this up. I took a quick read. I'll do a more careful read next week and have more detailed comments. One thing I wanted put up for discussion now is the notion of "defaults". Really, I'm trying to get away from the notion that there is one default we have to decide

[FlexJS] PAYG definitions and guidance, Please participate

2017-06-30 Thread Greg Dove
Following on from other discussions, I have made a start on something here https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=71013028 In the end this will only work if people want to do it. But I do believe that one way of getting everyone on the same page here (and we do have clear