Re: FYI, Apache Falcon is now a top-level project

2015-01-19 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Alex, On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 7:00 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > ...Yep, and we have a library called Spark. I mentioned this in the June > 2013 board report and no board member ever posted on our lists that we > needed to do something about it I'm not saying you need to do anything, just want

Re: [DISCUSS] Release Apache Flex 4.14.0

2015-01-19 Thread Alex Harui
On 1/19/15, 3:40 AM, "e...@ixsoftware.nl" wrote: >I have started the VOTE on 4.14 in the thread below. > >Please take a little time to download and test the artifacts, and cast >your vote. I have completed my approval pass. I’m curious as to what Justin is claiming is a legal issue regarding

Re: [DISCUSS] Release Apache Flex 4.14.0

2015-01-19 Thread Alex Harui
Try actually setting these things in the environment. set PLAYERGLOBAL_HOME=h:/flexsdk/flex-repo/dependencies/PlayerGlobal/player/ set AIR_HOME=h:/flexsdk/flex-repo/dependencies/AIRSDK/14.0/ set FLASHPLAYER_DEBUGGER=h:/flexsdk/flashplayer.exe On 1/19/15, 10:53 PM, "piotrz" wrote: >Build is f

Re: [DISCUSS] Release Apache Flex 4.14.0

2015-01-19 Thread Erik de Bruin
This is a bug in the release convenience tool "ApproveSDK.xml", not the SDK itself. If you set the mentioned path variables for the entire system instead of in a local .properties file, the warnings go away. EdB On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 7:53 AM, piotrz wrote: > Build is failing when I am using

Re: "The Player", a case for an independent Flash Player

2015-01-19 Thread Erik de Bruin
> What we need is an independent Flash player. OK. You have made your case, and then some. Now, since this forum is dedicated to the development of Apache Flex, can you maybe come to the point and discuss development related issues? Thanks, EdB -- Ix Multimedia Software Jan Luykenstraat 27

Re: [DISCUSS] Release Apache Flex 4.14.0

2015-01-19 Thread piotrz
Build is failing when I am using ApproveSDK.xml. 1) I've created folder 2) I've created approvefalcon.properties which contains paths: env.PLAYERGLOBAL_HOME=h:/flexsdk/flex-repo/dependencies/PlayerGlobal/player/ env.AIR_HOME=h:/flexsdk/flex-repo/dependencies/AIRSDK/14.0/ env.FLASHPLAYER_DEBUGGER=

Re: "The Player", a case for an independent Flash Player

2015-01-19 Thread Stephane Beladaci
@Jeffry, I do not think anyone in the company outside of the board had anything to do with killing the player on Android. It was making no sense for a good reason, there was no sense for it. I am making a case for the very credible possibility that the whole thing has been a conspiracy between Adob

Re: "The Player", a case for an independent Flash Player

2015-01-19 Thread Stephane Beladaci
Hector, you just point to another major issue with open source software, One day down the road, in two weeks, two months or two years that guy and his buddies who started the project walk out.The project cannot be pushed forward by a distributed community and its contribution based on per hour free

Re: "The Player", a case for an independent Flash Player

2015-01-19 Thread Stephane Beladaci
@Tom, I see your point and anticipate many others. We have the choice to be part of the problem or the solution. Let's say there is a show blocker, a piece of proprietary technology that we cannot engineer ourselves. I have two answer to that. First, I see a huge PR campaign to tell the world "see,

Re: [VOTE] Apache Flex SDK 4.14.0 RC1

2015-01-19 Thread Erik de Bruin
Let's use the DISCUSS thread for discussing stuff, please? EdB On Monday, January 19, 2015, Erik de Bruin wrote: > Hi, > > This is a Apache Flex 4.14.0 release candidate 1. For details on this > release see the RELEASE_NOTES and the README. > > > The release candidate can be found here; > >

Re: [DISCUSS] Release Apache Flex 4.14.0

2015-01-19 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, The change was only made in one place when it should of been made in several places. The code is now possibly in an inconsistent state that may cause regression issues, so I think we keep that JIRA open until it's fixed. Personally I would of placed this fixed into develop not the release b

Re: [VOTE] Apache Flex SDK 4.14.0 RC1

2015-01-19 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, Given this is a legal issue and effects a large portion of users - can we actually make a release in this state? Or do we have to release a fixed installer first? Justin

Re: [VOTE] Apache Flex SDK 4.14.0 RC1

2015-01-19 Thread Alex Harui
Pretty sure this was discovered a while back. Neil Madsen fixed it for the next Installer release, IIRC. On 1/19/15, 2:10 PM, "Mahmoud Ali" wrote: >I'm noticing a strange behavior when I go to the licenses screen. > >The first time I enter this screen I only see these licenses: >Apache Flex SDK

Re: [VOTE] Apache Flex SDK 4.14.0 RC1

2015-01-19 Thread Mahmoud Ali
I'm noticing a strange behavior when I go to the licenses screen. The first time I enter this screen I only see these licenses: Apache Flex SDK Apache Air SDK Adobe Flash Player playerglobal.swc Adobe Embedded Font Libraries and Utilities If I change the language, it doesn't matter which one, the

Re: [FLEXJS] Object.defineProperty

2015-01-19 Thread Erik de Bruin
Actually, JSGoogEmitter.java still has code to emit that method, so, "simply" removing the override in FlexJS should get you started ;-) EdB On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 8:52 PM, Erik de Bruin wrote: > Definitely! > > Edb > > > > On Monday, January 19, 2015, Alex Harui wrote: >> >> I think we’ve a

Re: [DISCUSS] Release Apache Flex 4.14.0

2015-01-19 Thread Erik de Bruin
Justin most likely forgot to recompile the SDK he was using to review my commits. He abandoned the discussion thread without further comment when I mentioned that possibility, basically confirming that assumption. I triple checked the solution on a fresh SDK and re-affirmed the validity of the Mus

Re: [DISCUSS] Release Apache Flex 4.14.0

2015-01-19 Thread piotrz
Hi Erik, This issue is mentioned in release notes -> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-34657 Justin comments it that is not fixed, so it probably should be removed from the Release Notes. Piotr - Apache Flex PMC piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com -- View this message in context: http://a

Re: [FLEXJS] Object.defineProperty

2015-01-19 Thread Erik de Bruin
Definitely! Edb On Monday, January 19, 2015, Alex Harui wrote: > I think we’ve agreed that IE9 is now the oldest browser that FlexJS will > support in terms of JS output. The original motivation was to get enough > SVG support to do the graphics/skinning. Folks needing to run something > on

[FLEXJS] Object.defineProperty

2015-01-19 Thread Alex Harui
I think we’ve agreed that IE9 is now the oldest browser that FlexJS will support in terms of JS output. The original motivation was to get enough SVG support to do the graphics/skinning. Folks needing to run something on older browsers can deploy the SWF version since those old browsers probably

Re: FYI, Apache Falcon is now a top-level project

2015-01-19 Thread Alex Harui
On 1/19/15, 2:35 AM, "Bertrand Delacretaz" wrote: >Hi, > >Just wanted to make sure you guys are aware of http://falcon.apache.org/ > >I think you have a module named "Falcon", so it's good to be aware of >the possible confusion in your communications. Yep, and we have a library called Spark.

Re: "The Player", a case for an independent Flash Player

2015-01-19 Thread Jeffry Houser
On 1/19/2015 3:45 AM, jude wrote: I'm also very upset at Adobe CEO and the Adobe evangelists who made the decision for millions of developers to remove Flash from Android (and slow Flash development tremendously) In fairness; I do not think Adobe Evangelists were involved in the decision in a

Re: [DISCUSS] Release Apache Flex 4.14.0

2015-01-19 Thread Erik de Bruin
I have started the VOTE on 4.14 in the thread below. Please take a little time to download and test the artifacts, and cast your vote. Thanks! EdB On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Erik de Bruin wrote: >> Java version mentioned in the README is getting a bit long in the tooth. The >> README

[4.14] # Apache Flex SDK 4.14 nightly build 75: Successful

2015-01-19 Thread flex . ci . builds
flex-sdk_release-candidate - Build #75 - Successful Changes since last build: [erik] Remove OFL fonts license step from Installer [erik] Remove OFL query For more information, check the console output at http://apacheflexbuild.cloudapp.net:8080/job/flex-sdk_release-candidate/75/.

[VOTE] Apache Flex SDK 4.14.0 RC1

2015-01-19 Thread Erik de Bruin
Hi, This is a Apache Flex 4.14.0 release candidate 1. For details on this release see the RELEASE_NOTES and the README. The release candidate can be found here; https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/flex/sdk/4.14.0/rc1/ The binary distributions as a convenience for the respective platforms,

FYI, Apache Falcon is now a top-level project

2015-01-19 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, Just wanted to make sure you guys are aware of http://falcon.apache.org/ I think you have a module named "Falcon", so it's good to be aware of the possible confusion in your communications. -Bertrand

Re: "The Player", a case for an independent Flash Player

2015-01-19 Thread Tom Chiverton
On 19/01/15 09:52, Héctor A wrote: I didn't mention Gnash because in some areas it seems to be behind Lightspark and it seems development on it stopped years ago. Yes, that was my point :-) LightSpark doesn't look that active either. But good luck ! Tom

"The Player", a case for an independent Flash Player

2015-01-19 Thread Héctor A
I didn't mention Gnash because in some areas it seems to be behind Lightspark and it seems development on it stopped years ago. 2015年1月19日月曜日、Tom Chiverton>さんは書きました: > I wish you well, but the idea has been tried a number of times before, and > because it wasn't able to use the Adobe Flash hardwa

[4.14] # Apache Flex SDK 4.14 nightly build 74: Successful

2015-01-19 Thread flex . ci . builds
flex-sdk_release-candidate - Build #74 - Successful Changes since last build: [erik] Update with note that FlatSpark requires embedded font support [erik] Last bit of version numbering update ;-) For more information, check the console output at http://apacheflexbuild.cloudapp.net:8080/job/fle

Re: "The Player", a case for an independent Flash Player

2015-01-19 Thread Tom Chiverton
I wish you well, but the idea has been tried a number of times before, and because it wasn't able to use the Adobe Flash hardware abstraction layer to access accelerated / battery optimised decode and display, never mind video DRM, they tended to top out around compatibility with Flash Player v

Re: "The Player", a case for an independent Flash Player

2015-01-19 Thread jude
+1 I have been very angry about it as well. I'm also very upset at Adobe CEO and the Adobe evangelists who made the decision for millions of developers to remove Flash from Android (and slow Flash development tremendously). They didn't consult the community of developers, businesses and startups wh