Re: New Release Process (was: [DISCUSSION] TourDeFlex 1.2 RC 0)

2014-11-03 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > That was very selective quoting ... I clearly state "the latest HEAD from > the release branch." So we would need to either alter existing CI jobs and add additional ones every time a release branch is made? > It takes very little effort for the release manager to set up a copy of the > b

Re: New Release Process (was: [DISCUSSION] TourDeFlex 1.2 RC 0)

2014-11-03 Thread Harbs
I like this idea to have a special nightly build for releases during the release process. It seems to me that it should simplify the process all around. Harbs On Nov 4, 2014, at 9:38 AM, Erik de Bruin wrote: >> >>> I'd go (and will go) one further, and use nightlies during this phase. >> >>

Re: New Release Process (was: [DISCUSSION] TourDeFlex 1.2 RC 0)

2014-11-03 Thread Erik de Bruin
> > > I'd go (and will go) one further, and use nightlies during this phase. > > How would that be possible given nightly are off the develop branch not a > release branch. Other people may check stuff into develop that we don't > want in the release under consideration. Also currently there are no

Re: New Release Process (was: [DISCUSSION] TourDeFlex 1.2 RC 0)

2014-11-03 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > I'd go (and will go) one further, and use nightlies during this phase. How would that be possible given nightly are off the develop branch not a release branch. Other people may check stuff into develop that we don't want in the release under consideration. Also currently there are no nig

Re: New Release Process (was: [DISCUSSION] TourDeFlex 1.2 RC 0)

2014-11-03 Thread Alex Harui
On 11/3/14, 11:24 PM, "Justin Mclean" wrote: >Hi, > >>> For TDF, because it is an “app”, if you want more feedback, it might be >>> reasonable to post a deployed version of TDF somewhere like your >>>personal >>> folder > >It will take an hour or so to upload a tar of the files via scp to >peop

Re: New Release Process (was: [DISCUSSION] TourDeFlex 1.2 RC 0)

2014-11-03 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, >> For TDF, because it is an “app”, if you want more feedback, it might be >> reasonable to post a deployed version of TDF somewhere like your personal >> folder It will take an hour or so to upload a tar of the files via scp to people.apache.org. Part of the reason we don't have a binary r

Re: New Release Process (was: [DISCUSSION] TourDeFlex 1.2 RC 0)

2014-11-03 Thread Erik de Bruin
> > > If issues are found during the discussion phase, you can just drop a > new package over the old package. > > -1 to this as this will cause all sort of confusion to exactly what > version an issue was in or what version people tested and this could more > RCs rounds not less and a lot more wo

Re: New Release Process (was: [DISCUSSION] TourDeFlex 1.2 RC 0)

2014-11-03 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > I expected the next step is that you put up a release candidate and open a > [DISCUSS] thread, but not a [VOTE] thread. Fair enough. I have opens a discuss thread but had very little response. Given we had a discussion open for over a week and no major issues have been found what do you r

Re: New Release Process (was: [DISCUSSION] TourDeFlex 1.2 RC 0)

2014-11-03 Thread Erik de Bruin
+1 Excellent summary! EdB On Tuesday, November 4, 2014, Alex Harui wrote: > > > On 11/3/14, 3:30 PM, "Justin Mclean" > wrote: > > >Hi, > > > >I asked for feedback over a period of a week and only feedback was to > >change a title. Without a release candidate is seens to me that people are >

New Release Process (was: [DISCUSSION] TourDeFlex 1.2 RC 0)

2014-11-03 Thread Alex Harui
On 11/3/14, 3:30 PM, "Justin Mclean" wrote: >Hi, > >I asked for feedback over a period of a week and only feedback was to >change a title. Without a release candidate is seens to me that people are >unwilling to check things. Right, I understood the prior thread to be a “last call for new feat

Re: [DISCUSSION] TourDeFlex 1.2 RC 0

2014-11-03 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, I asked for feedback over a period of a week and only feedback was to change a title. Without a release candidate is seens to me that people are unwilling to check things. You have to call a vote at some point and that still requires a release candidate. Thanks, Justin

Re: To FlexJS or not to FlexJS

2014-11-03 Thread jude
I think staying with FlexJS will be a big advantage for you. You know many in the community who will be able to help and improve FlexJS, you'll get typed AS3 language support and MXML support for layout and markup. The only thing I would consider is the text support. I ran into issues with text la

Re: [DISCUSSION] TourDeFlex 1.2 RC 0

2014-11-03 Thread Alex Harui
On 11/3/14, 1:04 PM, "Justin Mclean" wrote: >Hi, > >72 hours are just about up. Anyone have some feedback? The only feedback I have is that I thought we were going to iron out the wrinkles in the “no RC” release process on the next release after Squiggly, so I was surprised to see a vote threa

Mobile framework comparison

2014-11-03 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, From twitter: "Updated data on #ApacheFlex but it would be even better if someone over at @ApacheFlex would participate :)" Someone want to help out? http://mobile-frameworks-comparison-chart.com/participate.html Thanks, Justin

Re: [DISCUSSION] TourDeFlex 1.2 RC 0

2014-11-03 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, 72 hours are just about up. Anyone have some feedback? Thanks, Justin

Re: AW: How to manage flex-utilities git repo

2014-11-03 Thread Alex Harui
Infra wrote back. They want us to dictate a repo set and they’ll try to make it happen. Here’s the proposal: I would argue that we should leave the following in flex-utilities. I guess it sort of means that flex-utilities is for code that we don't have release plans for, but help us do other th

Re: Flex SDK "dependencies"

2014-11-03 Thread Alex Harui
On 11/3/14, 12:00 PM, "Erik de Bruin" wrote: >> >> So it looks to me it is running FalconJX’s compc, not Falcon’s. So the >> issue is probably that FalconJX’s compc doesn’t know how to ignore >> lookupOnly entries. For FlexJS, we are not using COMPC to compile the >>SDK >> so we’ve probably n

Re: [mustella] all recent SDK tests failed

2014-11-03 Thread Alex Harui
On 11/3/14, 11:48 AM, "Erik de Bruin" wrote: >Too late, already reverted. > >Guess I'll have to learn to rerevert now ;-) Two new things learned today! ;-) If you have time, you might see if you can catch the mustella VM running the SDK tests and grab a window and move it to the upper left.

Re: Flex SDK "dependencies"

2014-11-03 Thread Erik de Bruin
> > So it looks to me it is running FalconJX’s compc, not Falcon’s. So the > issue is probably that FalconJX’s compc doesn’t know how to ignore > lookupOnly entries. For FlexJS, we are not using COMPC to compile the SDK > so we’ve probably never hit this. > I'll step through FalconJX again, but

Re: [mustella] all recent SDK tests failed

2014-11-03 Thread Erik de Bruin
Too late, already reverted. Guess I'll have to learn to rerevert now ;-) EdB On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 8:45 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > The two tests passed locally for me on Mac, so that vindicates the code > you checked-in so you can avoid learning git revert for now. > > I’ll try it on Windows t

Re: [mustella] all recent SDK tests failed

2014-11-03 Thread Alex Harui
The two tests passed locally for me on Mac, so that vindicates the code you checked-in so you can avoid learning git revert for now. I’ll try it on Windows tonight. -Alex On 11/3/14, 11:39 AM, "Erik de Bruin" wrote: >You are right, I'll revert. I've never done that (still have love-hate >relat

Re: [mustella] all recent SDK tests failed

2014-11-03 Thread Erik de Bruin
You are right, I'll revert. I've never done that (still have love-hate relation with Git), so 'fingers crossed' ;-) EdB On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 8:12 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > > > On 11/3/14, 10:55 AM, "Erik de Bruin" wrote: > > >> > >> >I didn't run these locally, as I didn't expect changes to

Re: Flex SDK "dependencies"

2014-11-03 Thread Alex Harui
On 11/3/14, 10:48 AM, "Erik de Bruin" wrote: > >This is not touched by the code I'm writing. This is what the compiler >(Falcon) puts out when I feed it the entire SDK (with the arguments as >listed in "FlexSKDToJS.sh"). OK, I spend time reading this .sh file you wrote. I see this line: java

Re: [mustella] all recent SDK tests failed

2014-11-03 Thread Alex Harui
On 11/3/14, 10:55 AM, "Erik de Bruin" wrote: >> >> >I didn't run these locally, as I didn't expect changes to >>SystemManager to >> >affect anything but the very core of the SDK. >> >> I would be surprised if your changes made a difference as well but you >> never know. I thought the “unoffici

Re: [mustella] all recent SDK tests failed

2014-11-03 Thread Erik de Bruin
> > >I didn't run these locally, as I didn't expect changes to SystemManager to > >affect anything but the very core of the SDK. > > I would be surprised if your changes made a difference as well but you > never know. I thought the “unofficial” policy was that if your checkins > are tied to a run

Re: Flex SDK "dependencies"

2014-11-03 Thread Erik de Bruin
> > >> >Not sure what the 'lookupOnly="true"' means ... does that attribute > >>allow > >> >the old compiler to ignore the lack of a 'MiniDebugTarget.as' file > >> >anywhere > >> >in the SDK? > >> > >> Don’t know for sure. It appears it is used to add entries to an xml > >> namespace without actua

AW: AW: AW: AW: AW: AW: [FALCON] Bindable interfaces?

2014-11-03 Thread Christofer Dutz
Ok. I just checked in my changes to develop but with the Bindable Interface problem I only comitted the "null-check" version. So no worries ... nothing is fundamentally changed. I also migrated the other things I did as noone had an objection to the changes I did in order to enable advanced-te

Re: [mustella] all recent SDK tests failed

2014-11-03 Thread Alex Harui
On 11/3/14, 10:21 AM, "Erik de Bruin" wrote: > >I didn't run these locally, as I didn't expect changes to SystemManager to >affect anything but the very core of the SDK. I would be surprised if your changes made a difference as well but you never know. I thought the “unofficial” policy was th

Re: Flex SDK "dependencies"

2014-11-03 Thread Alex Harui
On 11/3/14, 10:15 AM, "Erik de Bruin" wrote: >> >> >Not sure what the 'lookupOnly="true"' means ... does that attribute >>allow >> >the old compiler to ignore the lack of a 'MiniDebugTarget.as' file >> >anywhere >> >in the SDK? >> >> Don’t know for sure. It appears it is used to add entries to

Re: [mustella] all recent SDK tests failed

2014-11-03 Thread Erik de Bruin
I see these tests failing on the VM: [java] gumbo/components/DataGrid/Properties/DataGrid_Properties_editable Editable_twoWayBinding_test Failed AssertMethodValue (method cannot be shown)(body:step 13) method returned , expected test1234 [java] gumbo/components/ListDragDrop/events/Spar

Re: Flex SDK "dependencies"

2014-11-03 Thread Erik de Bruin
> > >Not sure what the 'lookupOnly="true"' means ... does that attribute allow > >the old compiler to ignore the lack of a 'MiniDebugTarget.as' file > >anywhere > >in the SDK? > > Don’t know for sure. It appears it is used to add entries to an xml > namespace without actually including the source

Re: Flex SDK "dependencies"

2014-11-03 Thread Alex Harui
On 11/3/14, 9:57 AM, "Erik de Bruin" wrote: > >/Users/erik/Documents/ApacheFlex/git/flex-sdk/frameworks/projects/spark/ma >nifest.xml:295 > class="mx.logging.targets.MiniDebugTarget" >lookupOnly="true"/> > >Not sure what the 'lookupOnly="true"' means ... does that attribute allow >the old compil

Re: AW: AW: AW: AW: AW: [FALCON] Bindable interfaces?

2014-11-03 Thread Alex Harui
On 11/3/14, 9:51 AM, "Christofer Dutz" wrote: >Well I don't have any objections to leaving it in ... I just noticed that >it definitely needs some hardening against NPEs. Feel free to help add more NPE handling. I just haven’t hit those scenarios otherwise I would have added some handling mys

Re: Flex SDK "dependencies"

2014-11-03 Thread Erik de Bruin
Yeah, I stepped through the code till my feet hurt ;-) That didn't give me anything, as the errors are thrown when the compilation units are still being gathered, so no actual compilation is done. A search of the entire SDK gives these references to 'MiniDebugTaget': /Users/erik/Documents/ApacheF

AW: AW: AW: AW: AW: [FALCON] Bindable interfaces?

2014-11-03 Thread Christofer Dutz
Well I don't have any objections to leaving it in ... I just noticed that it definitely needs some hardening against NPEs. I was just assuming that the code could be removed as it didn't have any effect on the Falcon output. But I'm totally fine with leaving it in, if the code is changed in a wa

Re: [mustella] all recent SDK tests failed

2014-11-03 Thread Alex Harui
On 11/3/14, 1:08 AM, "Tom Chiverton" wrote: >Hmm. Still no successes being recorded. > >This is the most recent failure: >http://flex-mustella.cloudapp.net/job/flex-sdk_mustella/lastFailedBuild/co >nsole > >There seems to be timeouts in the DataGrid tests consistently. >Did anyone change anything

Re: AW: AW: AW: AW: [FALCON] Bindable interfaces?

2014-11-03 Thread Alex Harui
On 11/2/14, 11:15 PM, "Christofer Dutz" wrote: >M testcase consists of a bindable interface, a bindable class that >implements this and has one property as well as an Application, that uses >an instance of the class to write the content of a TextField into the >bindable variable and a label to

[FALCON] Updated Flexmojos 7.1.0 to support resource embedding with Falcon

2014-11-03 Thread Christofer Dutz
Hi, I just deployed an updated version of Flexmojos 7.1.0-SNAPSHOT that not only allows embedding resources with Falcon, but also makes the ugly "flexmojos-threadlocaltoolkit dependency hack" obsolete :-) Things that are now a little different is that the default paths for the air descriptor

Re: Flex SDK "dependencies"

2014-11-03 Thread Alex Harui
Maybe you’ve already tried this, but what I typically do when getting an unexpected/undesirable error in Falcon/FalconJX is put a breakpoint on the constructor of the XXXProblem class. When the constructor gets hit, up the call stack is hopefully the node being processed. In the variables window

Re: To FlexJS or not to FlexJS

2014-11-03 Thread piotrz
Harbs, If you have any kind of possibility to stay with ActionScript development just do this. I can say that AngularJS is a great framework, but if we are trying to do something really big - debugging, searching in code, fast creation of complex ui is far far a way from what we have seen in AS de

Re: [mustella] all recent SDK tests failed

2014-11-03 Thread Tom Chiverton
On 01/11/14 23:23, Tom Chiverton wrote: On Friday 31 Oct 2014 13:38:12 Erik de Bruin wrote: Ok, had to go into the Azure portal and hard reset the VM, for some reason. But it's rebooted, anyway. I also deleted all 'version.txt' files, so we're starting brand new and clean ;-) The last run (#113

Re: To FlexJS or not to FlexJS

2014-11-03 Thread Erik de Bruin
> > > If you also check out 'flex-falcon', and run an 'ant wipe-all all' in the > > root of that project, that will set up the various compilers on your > > system. Then you should be able to build the stuff in 'flex-asjs' with > > little or no problem from source. > > > > No need for the Installer

Re: To FlexJS or not to FlexJS

2014-11-03 Thread OmPrakash Muppirala
On Nov 3, 2014 12:25 AM, "Erik de Bruin" wrote: > > If you also check out 'flex-falcon', and run an 'ant wipe-all all' in the > root of that project, that will set up the various compilers on your > system. Then you should be able to build the stuff in 'flex-asjs' with > little or no problem from

Re: To FlexJS or not to FlexJS

2014-11-03 Thread Harbs
Yes. I’m checking out Falcon as well. You’ll probably hear from me when I get stuck… ;-) Thanks! Harbs On Nov 3, 2014, at 10:24 AM, Erik de Bruin wrote: > If you also check out 'flex-falcon', and run an 'ant wipe-all all' in the > root of that project, that will set up the various compilers on

Re: To FlexJS or not to FlexJS

2014-11-03 Thread Erik de Bruin
If you also check out 'flex-falcon', and run an 'ant wipe-all all' in the root of that project, that will set up the various compilers on your system. Then you should be able to build the stuff in 'flex-asjs' with little or no problem from source. No need for the Installer, and using that will pro

Re: To FlexJS or not to FlexJS

2014-11-03 Thread Harbs
I just checked out “asjs” from the repo. Should I get started straight from the source (and if yes, how), or should I start by downloading the installer? Harbs