Re: Should we release 4.12?

2014-03-08 Thread Alex Harui
At this point, if you can find the time to try rc6 and it works for you, then waiting a couple more days to announce 4.12 may be the safest choice. But I still don't understand why we don't think better messaging with an asynchronous Installer release would solve the problem regarding confusion.

Re: TextInput JS events

2014-03-08 Thread Alex Harui
But would flattening our namespaces get around package name collisions that Carlos ran into? Doing so wouldn't negatively affect Closure's output, or would it? -Alex On 3/8/14 8:54 AM, "Erik de Bruin" wrote: >The Closure compiler flattens namespaces (dot notation) for us, among many >other opt

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Flex SDK Installer 3.0 - RC6

2014-03-08 Thread OmPrakash Muppirala
+1 Binding Source kit: PGP signature okay (Good signature from "Alex Harui (CODE SIGNING KEY) < aha...@apache.org>") MD5 checksum okay Building from source works fine The README is very clear about how to build from sources Binary kit (windows only): PGP signature okay (Good signature from "Alex

RE: Should we release 4.12?

2014-03-08 Thread Maurice Amsellem
>If Installer 3.0 piggybacks with SDK 4.12, we will have a lot of folks with an >Installer that is capable of installing FlexJS. >Then once we actually release FlexJS 1.0, it is just a matter of updating the >config file. >People can then readily download and install FlexJS without having to u

Re: Should we release 4.12?

2014-03-08 Thread OmPrakash Muppirala
On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Maurice Amsellem < maurice.amsel...@systar.com> wrote: > >Why the stealth release now? What do we gain from that? Someone will > inevitably blog/tweet about it and we will be in a position to explain > what's happening. > >I don't see any harm in waiting for a fe

RE: Should we release 4.12?

2014-03-08 Thread Maurice Amsellem
>Why the stealth release now? What do we gain from that? Someone will >inevitably blog/tweet about it and we will be in a position to explain what's >happening. >I don't see any harm in waiting for a few days to release the sdk and the >Installer together. - I agree there is no point for a st

Re: Should we release 4.12?

2014-03-08 Thread OmPrakash Muppirala
On Mar 8, 2014 8:57 AM, "Erik de Bruin" wrote: > > Nick, I think you hit the sweet spot. > > +1 on the stealth release now and a noisy announcement when the new > Installer is available. > > EdB > Why the stealth release now? What do we gain from that? Someone will inevitably blog/tweet about i

Re: Should we release 4.12?

2014-03-08 Thread Erik de Bruin
Nick, I think you hit the sweet spot. +1 on the stealth release now and a noisy announcement when the new Installer is available. EdB On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote: > I say we "release" it but not make the announcements. By release, I mean > update the website,

Re: TextInput JS events

2014-03-08 Thread Erik de Bruin
The Closure compiler flattens namespaces (dot notation) for us, among many other optimisations. There is really no need to be worry about stuff like that. The GCC is really an awesome tool, you should check out it's output sometime, you'll be amazed how much optimisation it achieves if fed a prope

Re: Should we release 4.12?

2014-03-08 Thread Nicholas Kwiatkowski
I say we "release" it but not make the announcements. By release, I mean update the website, and update the installer config. When we pass the installer vote, we can then do the blog post, and the official apache announcement. That way, we can get the new one out there, but only make the noise o

Re: Should we release 4.12?

2014-03-08 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > I think both are different things, so I'll make a release of SDK 4.12 and > then after RC6 conclude a few days later will announce Installer. So I think you mean to informally vote +1 to release both at different times rather than -1 there? Thanks, Justin

Re: Should we release 4.12?

2014-03-08 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > For ex. soon I will add Polish language to installer - is this mean that I > have to wait for the next release of sdk? :) IMO No. As per Apache rules/guidelines any committer can make a release at any time. it requires 3 +1 PMC votes to pass as an official release and a -1 is not a veto,

Re: Should we release 4.12?

2014-03-08 Thread Carlos Rovira
I think both are different things, so I'll make a release of SDK 4.12 and then after RC6 conclude a few days later will announce Installer. There's in my opinion an additional marketing reason to do this since we should take profit of all the work in separate pieces and separate in time to get more

Re: TextInput JS events

2014-03-08 Thread Carlos Rovira
Hi Alex, I think this is right since as I see it, generated code for JS takes the role of somewhat like compiled code, regarding there's no developer use and it's final. So whatever we do to get more speed the better, id we could get speed with tricks like that we should change from dot notation t

RE: Should we release 4.12?

2014-03-08 Thread Maurice Amsellem
>Along which comes the new features like FlexJS, etc. That's exactly my point. Installer 3.0 is more for FlexJS (and for internal maintenance purpose). It's not "really" needed to install Flex SDK. So if we don't want to get people confused, let's link Installer 3.0 to FlexJS PR, and ment

RE: Should we release 4.12?

2014-03-08 Thread OmPrakash Muppirala
If we don't announce it, people won't bother to come check it out. We do have an auto-update functionality built into Installer 2.7, but that would require then to start the app first. Whereas, if we pair it up with 4.12, folks who want the new sdk will automatically get the new Installer. Alon

RE: Should we release 4.12?

2014-03-08 Thread Maurice Amsellem
A few thoughts: Why should we announce the installer at all? Do other products announce release of their installers ? I don't think so. Whatever efforts and innovation there is in it, it's only a convenience/commodity tool. What new functionality does Installer 3.0 bring over 2.7 , from an

Re: Should we release 4.12?

2014-03-08 Thread piotr.zarzycki
Hi, I think we should wait and give installer the last chance rc6. We are waiting for 4.12 so long - couple of days do not change to much, but in the feature release of installer shouldn't be depend on release sdk. For ex. soon I will add Polish language to installer - is this mean that I have t