Hi all,
We'll be having the usual meeting in #couchdb-meeting on
irc.freenode.org at 19:00 UTC, Wednesday as usual.
The meeting room:
irc://irc.freenode.net/couchdb-meeting
Or you can access the meeting via the web:
http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#couchdb-meeting
For your local
thanks!
On 21 Jan 2014, at 18:42, Alexander Shorin wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 8:16 PM, Robert Samuel Newson
> wrote:
>> The latest docs should clarify that you need the old spelling for old
>> versions, and both work for current versions.
>
> Ok, I'll update docs for this.
>
> --
> ,,,
I'm getting the same error. I'm on OS X 10.9.1 with Erlang R16B03. I have a
disk drive not a SSD.
On 22 Jan 2014, at 12:31 AM, Andy Wenk wrote:
> On 21 January 2014 21:21, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote:
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>> Dear community,
>>
>> After taking a little over a month to work out some issues, I would
>>
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Garren Smith wrote:
> I'm getting the same error. I'm on OS X 10.9.1 with Erlang R16B03. I have
> a disk drive not a SSD.
>
> On 22 Jan 2014, at 12:31 AM, Andy Wenk wrote:
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> > On 21 January 2014 21:21, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote:
> >
> >> Dear community,
> >>
> >>
On 22 January 2014 10:20, Benoit Chesneau wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Garren Smith wrote:
>
>> I'm getting the same error. I'm on OS X 10.9.1 with Erlang R16B03. I have
>> a disk drive not a SSD.
>>
>> On 22 Jan 2014, at 12:31 AM, Andy Wenk wrote:
>>
>> > On 21 January 2014 21:21
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Benoit Chesneau wrote:
> it's sort of expected since the ticket isn't closed:
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COUCHDB-1986
Is there a reason you landed it on feature branches, but not on master?
Cheers,
Dirkjan
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Andy Wenk wrote:
> On 22 January 2014 10:20, Benoit Chesneau wrote:
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>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Garren Smith wrote:
>>
>>> I'm getting the same error. I'm on OS X 10.9.1 with Erlang R16B03. I
>>> have a disk drive not a SSD.
>>>
>>> On 22 Jan 2014, a
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Benoit Chesneau
> wrote:
> > it's sort of expected since the ticket isn't closed:
> >
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COUCHDB-1986
>
> Is there a reason you landed it on feature branches, but no
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Benoit Chesneau commented on COUCHDB-2031:
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Benoit Chesneau commented on COUCHDB-1986:
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The changes made in the branch is n
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 3:25 PM, Robert Samuel Newson wrote:
> Definitely need to preserve R14 compatibility, that’s still the most
> stable recent series (as long as you don’t use R14B02)…
>
I disagree. R14 hasn't been updated since more than 2 years, and isn't a
supported version by the Erlang
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Benoit Chesneau wrote:
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> On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 3:25 PM, Robert Samuel Newson
> wrote:
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>> Definitely need to preserve R14 compatibility, that’s still the most
>> stable recent series (as long as you don’t use R14B02)…
>>
>
>
> I disagree. R14 hasn't been
Garren Smith created COUCHDB-2035:
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Summary: Stop user from removing _id and _rev from doc
Key: COUCHDB-2035
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COUCHDB-2035
Project: CouchDB
Issue Typ
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Garren Smith reassigned COUCHDB-2035:
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> Stop user from removing _id and _rev from doc
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On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Benoit Chesneau wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 3:25 PM, Robert Samuel Newson
> wrote:
>
>> Definitely need to preserve R14 compatibility, that’s still the most
>> stable recent series (as long as you don’t use R14B02)…
>>
>
>
> I disagree. R14 hasn't been update
Garren Smith created COUCHDB-2036:
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Summary: Redirect logged in user back to access denied page
Key: COUCHDB-2036
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COUCHDB-2036
Project: CouchDB
Issu
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Simon Metson commented on COUCHDB-2036:
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What happens in admin party mode?
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Garren Smith commented on COUCHDB-2036:
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Garren Smith commented on COUCHDB-2035:
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This work is sitting in branch `id-ace-wa
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On 20 Jan 2014, at 14:47, "Garren Smith (JIRA)" wrote:
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> Garren Smith resolved COUCHDB-1935.
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>Resolut
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Alexander Shorin wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Benoit Chesneau
> wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 3:25 PM, Robert Samuel Newson <
> rnew...@apache.org>wrote:
> >
> >> Definitely need to preserve R14 compatibility, that’s still the most
> >> stable
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Dave Cottlehuber commented on COUCHDB-1986:
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Reproducible by me on:
- FreeBSD
On 21 January 2014 20:50, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote:
> Dear community,
>
> After taking a little over a month to work out some issues, I would
> finally like to release Apache CouchDB 1.6.0-rc.1.
>
> Changes since last round:
>
> *
> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=couchdb.git;a=shortlog;h
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Benoit Chesneau wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Alexander Shorin wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Benoit Chesneau
>> wrote:
>> > On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 3:25 PM, Robert Samuel Newson <
>> rnew...@apache.org>wrote:
>> >
>> >> Definitely need
HI Paul,
Thanks for the clarifications. I have some questions related to it:
- about the replicator_changes, do you mean it could right now replace the
current version we have without any more changes? (except those related to
twig).
- About fabric, and db name ("shards/.."), does it measn that
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 9:07 PM, Russell Branca wrote:
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>
> As Paul mentioned, I've got a number of ideas for ripping out auth into an
> isolated application that handles #user_ctx, roles, and user CRUD, which I
> want to dive into more after the merges.
>
>
Can you share them on a separate thre
Requested. Should take a few days.
Moderators:
Me, Jan, Andy, and Ben.
Does anyone else want to volunteer to moderate the list? (Please do so!)
On 4 January 2014 14:28, Benjamin Young wrote:
> Happy New Year!!! :D
>
> /me distrubs the crickets...
>
> Any chance we can get that list this year?
Dirkjan, excellent idea. Why don't you start a new thread! Propose any
you may have, and invite others to do the same. We can put them all on
the wiki afterwards.
On 21 December 2013 14:39, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 10:32 PM, Noah Slater wrote:
>> This make me so happy. I
Benoit,
Cloudant requires R14 support, it would mean our contribution to couchdb
becomes useless to us and we could not contribute further.
B.
On 22 Jan 2014, at 11:09, Alexander Shorin wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Benoit Chesneau wrote:
>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Alex
My first comment is: if we want more reviews, let's have more committers.
We double our committer base in 2013, and the results look like this:
https://www.ohloh.net/p/couchdb/analyses/latest/languages_summary
And I see comments like this on StackOverflow:
"I've recently noticed that Co
Posted a tweet from @CouchDB. Scheduled four more over the coming
week. Please update me when you have a date and a time, and I will set
up some more for the weekend of FOSDEM.
On 21 January 2014 12:04, Benoit Chesneau wrote:
> bump
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Benoit Chesneau wrote:
>
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Noah Slater wrote:
> My first comment is: if we want more reviews, let's have more committers.
>
> We double our committer base in 2013, and the results look like this:
>
> https://www.ohloh.net/p/couchdb/analyses/latest/languages_summary
I don't think this i
Following up to the 2013 retrospective thread:
- Get more commit activity, especially in the core
- Merge the forks (rcouch and bigcouch)
- Improve the release process to make it take less work/time
Cheers,
Dirkjan
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Robert Samuel Newson
wrote:
> Cloudant requires R14 support, it would mean our contribution to couchdb
> becomes useless to us and we could not contribute further.
This continues to be extremely sad. This is the scheduling/NIF stuff,
IIRC, right? Can we really n
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Robert Samuel Newson
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> Benoit,
>
> Cloudant requires R14 support, it would mean our contribution to couchdb
> becomes useless to us and we could not contribute further.
>
Are you using blackmail? Is this the position of the Cloudant company?
While I certa
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Robert Samuel Newson
> wrote:
> > Cloudant requires R14 support, it would mean our contribution to couchdb
> becomes useless to us and we could not contribute further.
>
> This continues to be extremely s
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Dave Cottlehuber commented on COUCHDB-1986:
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NB passes after repeating a few
On 22 January 2014 13:23, Benoit Chesneau wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Robert Samuel Newson
> wrote:
>
>> Benoit,
>>
>> Cloudant requires R14 support, it would mean our contribution to couchdb
>> becomes useless to us and we could not contribute further.
>>
>
> Are you using blackmai
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Dave Cottlehuber wrote:
> On 22 January 2014 13:23, Benoit Chesneau wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Robert Samuel Newson
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Benoit,
> >>
> >> Cloudant requires R14 support, it would mean our contribution to couchdb
> >> becomes usele
I could have phrased it better, so I’ll do so now;
R14 is still widely used in production and is very stable. R15 and R16 have
known stability problems that affect deployments using NIF’s that can
potentially run for longer than a millisecond before returning control to the
scheduler.
I am no
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Dave Cottlehuber wrote:
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>
> The issues wrt to scheduler collapse are well known, and the concern
> around stability under heavy load with NIFs is still valid. R16B02+
> have not been out so long that anybody has made pronouncements about
> considering it solved,
On 22. Jänner 2014 at 12:42:03, Robert Samuel Newson (rnew...@apache.org) wrote:
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> Benoit,
>
> Cloudant requires R14 support, it would mean our contribution
> to couchdb becomes useless to us and we could not contribute further.
>
> B.
> ...
> >>> wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 3
Benoit,
I’m aware of the changes in R15 and R16.
If we are discussing whether to raise the lowest supported version of erlang
for CouchDB from its current value of R13B04, let’s have a new thread. I will
point out that R14 is stable and widely used still and we’ll go from there.
B.
On 22 Jan
Yes, most of the commits were on Fauxton, but almost without fail,
handing out a commit bit results in an upsurge of activity. Sometimes
a huge upsurge. And I think that we need to keep enabling people to
more easily contribute to the project.
As for there being no candidates, I disagree. There ar
On Jan 22, 2014, at 8:13 AM, Dave Cottlehuber wrote:
> On 22. Jänner 2014 at 12:42:03, Robert Samuel Newson (rnew...@apache.org)
> wrote:
>>
>> Benoit,
>>
>> Cloudant requires R14 support, it would mean our contribution
>> to couchdb becomes useless to us and we could not contribute further.
Heya Dirkjan, that's a fair assessment. The unfortunate reality is that many
of us who have experience with the Erlang core _have_ continued to make
improvements (often open source) to the codebase -- we've just done it outside
of Apache. We're committed to changing that going forward; it's be
On Jan 22, 2014, at 6:47 AM, Noah Slater wrote:
> My first comment is: if we want more reviews, let's have more committers.
>
> We double our committer base in 2013, and the results look like this:
>
>https://www.ohloh.net/p/couchdb/analyses/latest/languages_summary
>
> And I see comments
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Adam Kocoloski wrote:
> What really excites me is that all of the areas where we saw major activity
> in 2013 are complementary to improvements that we can offer in the core. It
> feels like the project is more than ready to capitalize on the new features
> and
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Dave Cottlehuber commented on COUCHDB-1986:
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actually my last comment doesn't
I am +1 in the order of priorities. Some comments bellow.
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 2:13 PM, Dave Cottlehuber wrote:
> On 22. Jänner 2014 at 12:42:03, Robert Samuel Newson (rnew...@apache.org)
> wrote:
> >
> > Benoit,
> >
> > Cloudant requires R14 support, it would mean our contribution
> > to co
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Noah Slater wrote:
> My first comment is: if we want more reviews, let's have more committers.
>
> We double our committer base in 2013, and the results look like this:
>
> https://www.ohloh.net/p/couchdb/analyses/latest/languages_summary
>
> And I see commen
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 3:55 AM, Adam Kocoloski wrote:
> Agree, great discussion here. I will say that I think the INI
> configuration system is quite nice, and that I'd love to see couch_config /
> config gain wider adoption as an alternative to using OTP application
> environments (of course w
Robert,
I understood what you meant.
Imo the best thing would be creating a check list of the things that
prevent to go to a version greater than R14. Can you share the one you have
inside cloudant ? It will help us to reach a consensus also later to make
sure we can fix them in next Erlang relea
On Jan 22, 2014, at 9:13 AM, Benoit Chesneau wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 3:55 AM, Adam Kocoloski wrote:
>
>> Agree, great discussion here. I will say that I think the INI
>> configuration system is quite nice, and that I'd love to see couch_config /
>> config gain wider adoption as an alt
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ASF subversion and git services commented on COUCHDB-2031:
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ASF subversion and git services commented on COUCHDB-2031:
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Adam Kocoloski resolved COUCHDB-2031.
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Resolution: Fixed
No worries, thanks for the review.
> Paths ending in '/' rewrite que
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Benjamin Young commented on COUCHDB-1870:
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Eli Stevens commented on COUCHDB-2035:
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A use case to consider: I will often edit
The whole escript then erl regenerating the appconfig thing kind of makes
me gag a bit (then again, I have 2 sick kids downstairs). IMHO, that
feels like the wrong direction to make it "easier". Why not have the
app.config exist simply to tell the config module where/how to get its
config data, t
Definitely agree that the INI system is friendlier than forcing everyone to
write configuration using Erlang terms. I'm not inclined to change that, and
in general I'd like to try to avoid situations where the config value is
actually parsed into a complex Erlang term if possible.
I'm guessing
Summary of IRC Meeting in #couchdb-meeting at Wed Jan 22 19:17:23 2014:
Attendees: kocolosk, awenkhh, bigbluehat, dch, Kxepal
- Preface
- 1.6 release
- Action: kocolosk and/or Kxepal will try to look and solve COUCHDB-1986 issue
- Action: ask djc about possibility to backport COUCHDB-2031 fix
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 9:13 PM, ASF IRC Bot
wrote:
> - Preface
> - 1.6 release
> - Action: kocolosk and/or Kxepal will try to look and solve COUCHDB-1986
> issue
Awesome, guys! It would be great to get this fixed soon.
> - Action: ask djc about possibility to backport COUCHDB-2031 fix from
On 22 January 2014 13:19, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote:
> Following up to the 2013 retrospective thread:
>
> - Get more commit activity, especially in the core
> - Merge the forks (rcouch and bigcouch)
> - Improve the release process to make it take less work/time
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dirkjan
>
Thanks for p
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Dave Cottlehuber wrote:
> Overall I am -1 on the replication test, but totally bamboozled why
> this should fail.
Yeah, I hereby abort this vote. Let's try to get this fixed, look at
COUCHDB-2031, and then I'll spin an rc2.
Cheers,
Dirkjan
After some help from @dch following a brain failure during Windows build:
sha, md5, sig: OK
Windows 8.1 EN x64, with Erlang R14B04, R15B03-1, R16B02
Verify install OK for all three builds. Futon tests all OK except for
show_documents, which fails on all three. But then it also fails on my
1.5.0 b
Huge +1 to more review.
Let's also setup some code guidelines for Erlang/Javascript/C/HTML so we
have an authoritative list of rules to follow to ensure code consistency,
and similarly, let's get some guidelines for git commits messages as well,
Tim Pope's article comes to mind:
http://tbaggery.co
The scheduler collapse problems in R15 and R16 are widely known and not
resolved. Frankly, as developers of a database, we should strive to provide
end users with the most reliable and best experience, which in my opinion
means we should recommend R14B01. There is not a battle tested, reliable
vers
Hi everyone,
just a short reminder that it is super helpful, to avoid top posting when
replying in threads on the mailing-lists. It is very much easier to follow
a conversation. I will not make a drama out of that but I would be happy,
if you just keep it in mind. Always answer below the last answ
On 1/22/14 3:07 PM, "Russell Branca" wrote:
>Huge +1 to more review.
>
>Let's also setup some code guidelines for Erlang/Javascript/C/HTML so we
>have an authoritative list of rules to follow to ensure code consistency,
>and similarly, let's get some guidelines for git commits messages as well,
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Garren Smith commented on COUCHDB-2035:
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Hi Eli,
Thats a good point. In Fauxton t
Surprised that no one has mentioned that monitors were broken in R16B01.
http://erlang.org/pipermail/erlang-bugs/2013-July/003670.html
While I do agree with general points on both sides of the minimum
Erlang requirement I think its important to note that even Basho is
staying with R15B01 at the m
Oops, that should've have been "re-add support".
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 10:53 PM, Paul Davis
wrote:
> Surprised that no one has mentioned that monitors were broken in R16B01.
>
> http://erlang.org/pipermail/erlang-bugs/2013-July/003670.html
>
> While I do agree with general points on both sides
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 12:43 AM, Andy Wenk wrote:
> just a short reminder that it is super helpful, to avoid top posting when
> replying in threads on the mailing-lists. It is very much easier to follow
> a conversation. I will not make a drama out of that but I would be happy,
> if you just keep
Ditto, can’t think of a thing worth having post-R14 to take the leap given the
numerous broken releases. I had forgotten that monitoring was broken in R16B01.
Good grief.
B.
On 23 Jan 2014, at 07:03, Paul Davis wrote:
> Oops, that should've have been "re-add support".
>
> On Wed, Jan 22, 20
+1. Top posting is the worst.
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 11:04 PM, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 12:43 AM, Andy Wenk wrote:
>> just a short reminder that it is super helpful, to avoid top posting when
>> replying in threads on the mailing-lists. It is very much easier to follow
>
functioning ssl?
On 1/22/14 11:07 PM, "Robert Samuel Newson" wrote:
>
>Ditto, can¹t think of a thing worth having post-R14 to take the leap
>given the numerous broken releases. I had forgotten that monitoring was
>broken in R16B01. Good grief.
>
>B.
>
>On 23 Jan 2014, at 07:03, Paul Davis
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