Re: Removal of ibmcom/couchdb3 preview image

2020-02-04 Thread Adam Kocoloski
Hi Joan, Jan, I’m happy to let this pass and get back to the work of getting 3.0 out the door. I’m very appreciative of the work both of you as well as Will and many others have done to get us to this point. I agree that the optics of `ibmcom/couchdb3` were not good. We kinda backed into that o

Re: Removal of ibmcom/couchdb3 preview image

2020-02-04 Thread Jan Lehnardt
Heya Adam, The ends justify the means, really? There is no disagreement about having binary dev builds are a benefit, if handled correctly. What is disappointing here is that Joan has mentioned this specific rule, in just about every other email concerning the automation of building binaries a

Re: Removal of ibmcom/couchdb3 preview image

2020-02-03 Thread Joan Touzet
To quote a long time Apache member who's discussing a very similar issue in parallel over on bui...@apache.org right now: Downstream users trust Apache because of our provenance rules (per feedback over the years). Spoiling that assurance, spoils our reputation; that is kind of at the heart of

Re: Removal of ibmcom/couchdb3 preview image

2020-02-03 Thread Joan Touzet
Adam, I didn't specifically go after Will. Will was kind enough to step in and help, which is great. Legal has been very, very clear on this. During my time on the board it's come up as well. We do not want to incur their wrath. We *cannot* be pushing dev or master builds out to the general

Re: Removal of ibmcom/couchdb3 preview image

2020-02-03 Thread Adam Kocoloski
I pushed for a `couchdb3` preview image — heck, I built the first one myself 6 months ago (!) and hosted it in my own Docker Hub account. The upcoming CouchDB 3.0 release is better off for all the little bugs we found and fixed as a result of those pulls. Appropriately documented, it’s just an a

Re: Removal of ibmcom/couchdb3 preview image

2020-02-03 Thread Will Holley
Thanks Joan for highlighting the problem; the image has been removed from DockerHub. On Mon, 3 Feb 2020 at 17:46, Joan Touzet wrote: > On 2020-02-03 12:34, Jan Lehnardt wrote: > > Thanks Joan for raising this, > > > > I’m throwing in an extra “this is bad” because of the version number. > 3.0 is

Re: Removal of ibmcom/couchdb3 preview image

2020-02-03 Thread Joan Touzet
On 2020-02-03 12:34, Jan Lehnardt wrote: Thanks Joan for raising this, I’m throwing in an extra “this is bad” because of the version number. 3.0 is not a thing yet and we have brought that up with several IBMers that calling anything intermediate “CouchDB3” (this is isn’t the first time) is pr

Re: Removal of ibmcom/couchdb3 preview image

2020-02-03 Thread Jan Lehnardt
Thanks Joan for raising this, I’m throwing in an extra “this is bad” because of the version number. 3.0 is not a thing yet and we have brought that up with several IBMers that calling anything intermediate “CouchDB3” (this is isn’t the first time) is problematic in the CouchDB Slack. Y’all nee

Re: Removal of ibmcom/couchdb3 preview image

2020-02-03 Thread Joan Touzet
Bit more context: 12:10 <+Wohali> but we can't have a docker image out there that rides master available to the public 12:11 <+Wohali> other projects at Apache have been slapped hard on this 12:11 ok - will look at getting it removed (I can't do it myself) 12:11 <+Wohali> thanks. it can go bac

Removal of ibmcom/couchdb3 preview image

2020-02-03 Thread Joan Touzet
Hi IBM people, https://hub.docker.com/r/ibmcom/couchdb3 This is a problem, especially because i'm seeing 50K+ pulls on this image already. We've not yet released CouchDB 3.0. Any use of this image outside of our immediate developer community is a direct violation of Apache release protoco