Re: Managing zyz.apache.org (was RE: WELCOME to dev@community.apache.org)

2015-01-09 Thread Branko Čibej
On 09.01.2015 15:43, Branko Čibej wrote: > On 09.01.2015 14:04, Ulrich Stärk wrote: >> If I'm not mistaken, SVN does the same (combine and compress all changes >> prior to sending it over >> the wire). > Not entirely; it sends deltas and will compress new files IF the server > has mod_deflate conf

Re: Managing zyz.apache.org (was RE: WELCOME to dev@community.apache.org)

2015-01-09 Thread Branko Čibej
On 09.01.2015 14:04, Ulrich Stärk wrote: > If I'm not mistaken, SVN does the same (combine and compress all changes > prior to sending it over > the wire). Not entirely; it sends deltas and will compress new files IF the server has mod_deflate configured (but they usually don't because there was

Re: Managing zyz.apache.org (was RE: WELCOME to dev@community.apache.org)

2015-01-09 Thread Ulrich Stärk
If I'm not mistaken, SVN does the same (combine and compress all changes prior to sending it over the wire). Uli On 2015-01-08 10:28, Robert Metzger wrote: > I think there is a performance difference between git and svn because with > git, you are syncing repositories, not files. Git is usually

Re: Managing zyz.apache.org (was RE: WELCOME to dev@community.apache.org)

2015-01-08 Thread Branko Čibej
On 08.01.2015 19:01, jan i wrote: > On 8 January 2015 at 18:51, Branko Čibej wrote: > >> In cases like this I'd strongly recommend that you ask Infra to set up a >> small VM for you to build and host the Javadocs on, and link to that >> from your web site (or proxy it; the VM itself doesn't have t

Re: GitHub pages for git based Apache projects (Was: Re: Managing zyz.apache.org (was RE: WELCOME to dev@community.apache.org))

2015-01-08 Thread Ted Dunning
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 3:29 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Ted Dunning > wrote: > > ...Apache Drill has been doing something like this for some time. They > use > > Jekyll from Github to render markdown as HTML and then commit the HTML to > > SVN to th

Re: Managing zyz.apache.org (was RE: WELCOME to dev@community.apache.org)

2015-01-08 Thread jan i
On 8 January 2015 at 18:51, Branko Čibej wrote: > On 08.01.2015 17:12, Robert Metzger wrote: > > Hi Brane, > > See answer inline: > > > > On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Branko Čibej wrote: > > > >> On 08.01.2015 09:55, Robert Metzger wrote: > >>> Hi, > >>> > If there is sufficient demand,

Re: Managing zyz.apache.org (was RE: WELCOME to dev@community.apache.org)

2015-01-08 Thread Branko Čibej
On 08.01.2015 17:12, Robert Metzger wrote: > Hi Brane, > See answer inline: > > On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Branko Čibej wrote: > >> On 08.01.2015 09:55, Robert Metzger wrote: >>> Hi, >>> If there is sufficient demand, however, that could change - the code >> that >>> would make this poss

Re: Managing zyz.apache.org (was RE: WELCOME to dev@community.apache.org)

2015-01-08 Thread Christopher
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Daniel Gruno > wrote: > > The main reason we do not support git in this workflow is that git does > not > > enable single-file checkouts, and that we haven't properly tested > gitwcsub > > (a git version

Re: Managing zyz.apache.org (was RE: WELCOME to dev@community.apache.org)

2015-01-08 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Daniel Gruno wrote: > The main reason we do not support git in this workflow is that git does not > enable single-file checkouts, and that we haven't properly tested gitwcsub > (a git version of svnwcsub which is the frontend for svnpubsub) for web > sites yet. If

Re: Managing zyz.apache.org (was RE: WELCOME to dev@community.apache.org)

2015-01-08 Thread Robert Metzger
Hi Brane, See answer inline: On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Branko Čibej wrote: > On 08.01.2015 09:55, Robert Metzger wrote: > > Hi, > > > >> If there is sufficient demand, however, that could change - the code > that > > would make this possible does exist. > > > > I would like to express dema

Re: Managing zyz.apache.org (was RE: WELCOME to dev@community.apache.org)

2015-01-08 Thread jay vyas
Thanks for the feedback ! How about, then this solution : A cron job which copies all files from site/ in xyz apache project, into /content, every day, and does a svn commit. 1) We can try this for one of our projects (maybe i can propose it bigtop) ... and if it works Maybe even donate/broaden i

Re: Managing zyz.apache.org (was RE: WELCOME to dev@community.apache.org)

2015-01-08 Thread David Nalley
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 10:24 AM, jay vyas wrote: > IS the ASF okay with simply doing a one time commit to SVN, of a single > HTML page which forwards to gh-pages? > I am pretty sure there is a brand requirement that the project's web site is at $foo.a.o - http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pm

Re: Managing zyz.apache.org (was RE: WELCOME to dev@community.apache.org)

2015-01-08 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 4:24 PM, jay vyas wrote: > ...IS the ASF okay with simply doing a one time commit to SVN, of a single > HTML page which forwards to gh-pages?.. You mean redirect to github which has the actual content? That's not ok IMO, like our source code our websites have to be hosted

Re: Managing zyz.apache.org (was RE: WELCOME to dev@community.apache.org)

2015-01-08 Thread Branko Čibej
On 08.01.2015 09:55, Robert Metzger wrote: > Hi, > >> If there is sufficient demand, however, that could change - the code that > would make this possible does exist. > > I would like to express demand from the Flink project. svn is a pain to use > (since we host javadocs and our documentation on o

Re: Managing zyz.apache.org (was RE: WELCOME to dev@community.apache.org)

2015-01-08 Thread jay vyas
IS the ASF okay with simply doing a one time commit to SVN, of a single HTML page which forwards to gh-pages? On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 9:19 AM, David Nalley wrote: > On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 3:55 AM, Robert Metzger > wrote: > > Hi, > > > >> If there is sufficient demand, however, that could change

Re: Managing zyz.apache.org (was RE: WELCOME to dev@community.apache.org)

2015-01-08 Thread David Nalley
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 3:55 AM, Robert Metzger wrote: > Hi, > >> If there is sufficient demand, however, that could change - the code that > would make this possible does exist. > > I would like to express demand from the Flink project. svn is a pain to use > (since we host javadocs and our docume

Re: Managing zyz.apache.org (was RE: WELCOME to dev@community.apache.org)

2015-01-08 Thread Christopher
Perhaps a better mechanism for things like javadocs, would be to support some javadoc viewer which serves javadocs directly from javadoc jars? That way, you just upload the jars you build with maven or ant, which are already compressed. That should work well enough with svn or the CMS external buil

Re: GitHub pages for git based Apache projects (Was: Re: Managing zyz.apache.org (was RE: WELCOME to dev@community.apache.org))

2015-01-08 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Ted Dunning wrote: > ...Apache Drill has been doing something like this for some time. They use > Jekyll from Github to render markdown as HTML and then commit the HTML to > SVN to that pubsub carries it to the right places... Do you have URLs that show how

Re: Managing zyz.apache.org (was RE: WELCOME to dev@community.apache.org)

2015-01-08 Thread Robert Metzger
I think there is a performance difference between git and svn because with git, you are syncing repositories, not files. Git is usually compressing the repository before sending it over the network. I did a little test with our website directory and pushed it to github: git add : 7 seconds (17k fi

Re: GitHub pages for git based Apache projects (Was: Re: Managing zyz.apache.org (was RE: WELCOME to dev@community.apache.org))

2015-01-08 Thread Ted Dunning
v/cmsref.html > >>> > >>> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. > >>> A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation > >>> > >>> -Original Message- > >>> From: jay vyas [mailto:jayunit100.apa...@gmail.com] > >>> Sent: We

Re: Managing zyz.apache.org (was RE: WELCOME to dev@community.apache.org)

2015-01-08 Thread Daniel Gruno
On 2015-01-08 09:55, Robert Metzger wrote: Hi, If there is sufficient demand, however, that could change - the code that would make this possible does exist. I would like to express demand from the Flink project. svn is a pain to use (since we host javadocs and our documentation on our websi

Re: Managing zyz.apache.org (was RE: WELCOME to dev@community.apache.org)

2015-01-08 Thread Robert Metzger
Hi, > If there is sufficient demand, however, that could change - the code that would make this possible does exist. I would like to express demand from the Flink project. svn is a pain to use (since we host javadocs and our documentation on our website, the upload usually runs for 6+ hours. Prob

Re: GitHub pages for git based Apache projects (Was: Re: Managing zyz.apache.org (was RE: WELCOME to dev@community.apache.org))

2015-01-08 Thread Benedikt Ritter
estion is different depending on what xyz is in >>> http://xyz.apache.org >>> >>> Probably the most common answer is http://www.apache.org/dev/cmsref.html >>> >>> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. >>> A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation >>> &

Re: GitHub pages for git based Apache projects (Was: Re: Managing zyz.apache.org (was RE: WELCOME to dev@community.apache.org))

2015-01-08 Thread Sergio Fernández
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GitHub pages for git based Apache projects (Was: Re: Managing zyz.apache.org (was RE: WELCOME to dev@community.apache.org))

2015-01-08 Thread Benedikt Ritter
sidiary of Microsoft Corporation > > -Original Message- > From: jay vyas [mailto:jayunit100.apa...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2015 12:30 PM > To: dev@community.apache.org > Subject: Re: WELCOME to dev@community.apache.org > > thanks daniel... > > h

Re: Managing zyz.apache.org (was RE: WELCOME to dev@community.apache.org)

2015-01-07 Thread Daniel Gruno
Hi Jay, It sounds like you have the CMS setup that is quite common in the ASF. If you would rather have straight-up svnpubsub, you can ask for it. That way, whatever static content you push to svn will instantly be shown on your web site without having to publish through the UI first. The main

Managing zyz.apache.org (was RE: WELCOME to dev@community.apache.org)

2015-01-07 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
[mailto:jayunit100.apa...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2015 12:30 PM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: WELCOME to dev@community.apache.org thanks daniel... here at bigtop we are 100% git based. so having an svn account , just to push changes to a site, seems to slow us down alot. is SVN

Re: WELCOME to dev@community.apache.org

2015-01-07 Thread jay vyas
thanks daniel... here at bigtop we are 100% git based. so having an svn account , just to push changes to a site, seems to slow us down alot. is SVN required ? or is there another way? right now we have a system that uses maven, followed by svn and then we have to approve the changes in the w

Re: WELCOME to dev@community.apache.org

2015-01-07 Thread Daniel Gruno
Essentially, github uses the same method as we do with svnpubsub. Files are pushed to a repository and then from there pushed directly to the web site. Is there anything specific about the github model that you think differ from how we do things? Apart from it being git and not subversion, ob

Re: WELCOME to dev@community.apache.org

2015-01-07 Thread jay vyas
Hi apache ! Whats the simplest way to maintain the xyz.apache.org site? Right now we push to SVN, but would be great to use something like the github.io model, where the static pages are just hosted directly. On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 2:56 PM, wrote: > Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing