Re: GSoC Mentor vetting procedure

2012-03-19 Thread Ross Gardler
+1for PPMC Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity. On Mar 19, 2012 9:32 PM, "Nóirín Pluincéid" wrote: > On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > > > > And for Podlings? Do this in their own dev list, where mentors can be > > counted on to raise any issues? Or

Re: GSoC Mentor vetting procedure

2012-03-19 Thread Ulrich Stärk
Am Mo, 19.03.2012, 22:31 schrieb Nóirín Pluincéid: > On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Rob Weir wrote: >> >> And for Podlings?  Do this in their own dev list, where mentors can be >> counted on to raise any issues?  Or send them all to the IPMC general >> list? > > I think an ACK from the PPMC is m

Re: GSoC Mentor vetting procedure

2012-03-19 Thread Nóirín Pluincéid
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > > And for Podlings?  Do this in their own dev list, where mentors can be > counted on to raise any issues?  Or send them all to the IPMC general > list? I think an ACK from the PPMC is more meaningful in that case. N

Re: GSoC Mentor vetting procedure

2012-03-19 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 5:50 PM, Ulrich Stärk wrote: > Folks, > > I just want to shortly recap the results of our discussions from last year: > We want individual PMCs > to be more involved in the mentor selection process and want them to lazy ACK > mentors for their > projects. So a potential m

Re: GSoC Mentor vetting procedure

2012-03-19 Thread shathawa
The recognition by PMC of a GSoC project mentor should help eliminate a problem I witnessed last year. +1 Steven J. Hathaway XALAN > Now that I understood that no action by or within the PMC is required, > I'm perfectly fine with the new procedure. > > So a non-binding +1 from me. > > Cheers, >

Re: GSoC Mentor vetting procedure

2012-03-19 Thread Tammo van Lessen
Now that I understood that no action by or within the PMC is required, I'm perfectly fine with the new procedure. So a non-binding +1 from me. Cheers, Tammo On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 12:35, Ulrich Stärk wrote: > Do we have a concensus here? If so we will prepare a mail to pmc@ explaining > the

Re: GSoC Mentor vetting procedure

2012-03-19 Thread Ulrich Stärk
Do we have a concensus here? If so we will prepare a mail to pmc@ explaining the process. Uli On 19.03.2012 10:08, Ross Gardler wrote: > On 19 March 2012 08:42, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: >> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 4:38 AM, Nóirín Pluincéid wrote: >>> ...Mentors should have the backing of the

Re: GSoC Mentor vetting procedure

2012-03-19 Thread Ross Gardler
On 19 March 2012 08:42, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 4:38 AM, Nóirín Pluincéid wrote: >> ...Mentors should have the backing of the PMC responsible for the project >> their student is working on - because we've promised that to Google, and >> because we need to know that if

Re: GSoC Mentor vetting procedure

2012-03-19 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 4:38 AM, Nóirín Pluincéid wrote: > ...Mentors should have the backing of the PMC responsible for the project > their student is working on - because we've promised that to Google, and > because we need to know that if the mentor disappears, the PMC will step > in +1,

Re: GSoC Mentor vetting procedure

2012-03-18 Thread Nóirín Pluincéid
On Mar 18, 2012 7:48 PM, "Luciano Resende" wrote: > > If we step back, what's the main issue we are trying to solve here ? Mentors should have the backing of the PMC responsible for the project their student is working on - because we've promised that to Google, and because we need to know that i

Re: GSoC Mentor vetting procedure

2012-03-18 Thread Luciano Resende
On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Nóirín Pluincéid wrote: > I'm not ok with that. I think it's important to vet mentors better > than we have in the past--I know that it pushes some extra work onto > the PMCs and mentors, but if we're going to keep asking for the number > of projects we've had in t

Re: GSoC Mentor vetting procedure

2012-03-18 Thread Nóirín Pluincéid
I'm not ok with that. I think it's important to vet mentors better than we have in the past--I know that it pushes some extra work onto the PMCs and mentors, but if we're going to keep asking for the number of projects we've had in the past, the admins can't do all the work. And as we get bigger an

Re: GSoC Mentor vetting procedure

2012-03-18 Thread mehdi houshmand
Sorry, I'm some what unclear as to the vetting procedure, it doesn't seem to be documented anywhere. Also, aside from our subscription being accepted to code-awards@, is the list of accepted mentors documented anywhere? Thanks, Mehdi On 18 March 2012 07:31, Ulrich Stärk wrote: > I'm OK with tha

Re: GSoC Mentor vetting procedure

2012-03-18 Thread Ulrich Stärk
I'm OK with that, I'm just recapitulating what we discussed after last year's incident. Assuming lazy concensus. we'll invite pmc@a.o to begin applying as mentors in 72 hours, no changes to the mentor vetting procedure. Uli On 18.03.2012 04:59, Sagara Gunathunga wrote: > On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at

Re: GSoC Mentor vetting procedure

2012-03-17 Thread Sagara Gunathunga
On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 8:06 AM, Luciano Resende wrote: > On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Tammo van Lessen > wrote: >> Hi Ulrich, >> >> I applied as mentor for Apache ODE and I'm the PMC chair of ODE. Does >> that mean I have to ACK (or not NACK) myself? Or do I need to let the >> others PMC me

Re: GSoC Mentor vetting procedure

2012-03-17 Thread Luciano Resende
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Tammo van Lessen wrote: > Hi Ulrich, > > I applied as mentor for Apache ODE and I'm the PMC chair of ODE. Does > that mean I have to ACK (or not NACK) myself? Or do I need to let the > others PMC members vote for me mentoring a project? Sounds a bit > cumbersome to

Re: GSoC Mentor vetting procedure

2012-03-17 Thread Tammo van Lessen
Hi Ulrich, I applied as mentor for Apache ODE and I'm the PMC chair of ODE. Does that mean I have to ACK (or not NACK) myself? Or do I need to let the others PMC members vote for me mentoring a project? Sounds a bit cumbersome to me. Cheers, Tammo On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 22:50, Ulrich Stärk w

GSoC Mentor vetting procedure

2012-03-17 Thread Ulrich Stärk
Folks, I just want to shortly recap the results of our discussions from last year: We want individual PMCs to be more involved in the mentor selection process and want them to lazy ACK mentors for their projects. So a potential mentor will need to 1) request to be a mentor in google melange and