Re: ComDev scope and lists

2014-06-11 Thread Jim Jagielski
makes sense to me. On Jun 6, 2014, at 4:00 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Hi Brett, > > On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 7:49 AM, Brett Porter wrote: >> ...I feel like the ASF is seeing a pattern where we need something like >> "committer relations", that can focus on >> providing resources and assist

Re: ComDev scope and lists

2014-06-10 Thread Ross Gardler
Brett didn't ask about where policy ought to be made, he asked about where committer support lives. You narrow a very good point about policy not being made on members list, and in fact it isn't made there - sometimes debated but never defined. I do agree that those discussions should be public (a

Re: ComDev scope and lists

2014-06-10 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Brett Porter wrote: > Possibly it's just my personal bugbear, but my concern with sending traffic > to a list that doesn't feel empowered to act on it is that it often ends up > in discussion with very little decision making. To my mind, the problem that needs sol

Re: ComDev scope and lists

2014-06-07 Thread Ross Gardler
Yes, your reading of ComDev's scope is correct. I have no opinion of the current purpose of commun...@apache.org - it was put under this PMC by the board when the PMC was first created. It was a mostly dead list that needed a home. The board changed the PMC resolution without discussion with the n

Re: ComDev scope and lists

2014-06-07 Thread Pierre Smits
For sure, onboarding of newcomers is important. Same goes for committer relations. But how about contributor relations, mediation and such? Regards, Pierre Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM * Services & Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail & T

Re: ComDev scope and lists

2014-06-06 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Brett, On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 7:49 AM, Brett Porter wrote: > ...I feel like the ASF is seeing a pattern where we need something like > "committer relations", that can focus on > providing resources and assistance to any committer, while not interfering > with individual project boundaries. >

ComDev scope and lists

2014-06-05 Thread Brett Porter
Hi ComDev PMC and other interested folks, From time to time, I hear someone suggest ComDev or its lists as a potential target for a foundation-wide activity that affects current committers. However, I've always thought of ComDev as being focused on "those that are not here yet", rather than tho