RE: Trouble child OpenOffice

> -Original Message- > From: Andy Wenk [mailto:andyw...@apache.org] > Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 14:26 > To: dev@community.apache.org > Subject: Re: Trouble child OpenOffice > > Hi Raphael, > > this is really sad to hear. The gap between so many users and a > vanishing community de

RE: Vetoes for New Committers??

> -Original Message- > From: Marvin Humphrey [mailto:mar...@rectangular.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 05:13 > To: dev@community.apache.org > Subject: Re: Vetoes for New Committers?? > [ ... ] > > Most PMCs do not draft their own rules, and just use "at least 3 +1 > with no veto

RE: Apache and Java

I think, if you look at the DRAT diagrams that Chris Mattmann provided up-thread, there is another factor that can figure into the someone asking the original question. If someone, especially a student or recent-graduate, has skills in a particular development and language approach, and is look

RE: What happened to the Apache Labs

> -Original Message- > From: Raphael Bircher [mailto:rbircherapa...@gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2017 13:01 > To: dev@community.apache.org > Subject: What happened to the to the Apache Labs > > Hi all > > I looked at the apache Labs from time to time, and I see nearly no > acti

RE: ASF Committers Diversity Survey in Progress

My one concern was providing credentials to a non-Apache site. Should I be worried about that? (I just changed my Apache password just in case.) - Dennis > -Original Message- > From: Sharan Foga [mailto:sha...@apache.org] > Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 03:19 > To: dev@community.apa

RE: Task #5c18cd0e: Create Twitter list of all projects

I'm not certain what I am responding to here. Can we see what is on the list now and what information is being asked for? Meanwhile, there is . - Dennis > -Original Message- > From: Alexander Bezzubov [mailto:b...@apache.org] > Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2

RE: Where to report outdated "Welcome to ASF" email template?

> -Original Message- > From: Alexandre Rafalovitch [mailto:arafa...@gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2016 20:48 > To: dev@community.apache.org > Subject: Where to report outdated "Welcome to ASF" email template? > > Hello, > > I just got accepted as a committer to an ASF project (

RE: New Project - Query

There may be others to respond but this is straightforward. > -Original Message- > From: Mccann, Thomas (solutions, services) > [mailto:thomas.mcc...@rbs.co.uk.INVALID] > Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 08:13 > To: 'dev@community.apache.org' > Subject: New Project - Query > > Hi > > I am

RE: Unsubscribe trailers

Tail-gating on this so I mention it somewhere at least. One problem that I have noticed, and I don't know how systematic it is, is that when a post uses HTML formatting, the list robot may not provide the trailer in a form that actually has it be visible to a recipient. This has led, in the pas

RE: Encouraging More Women to Participate on Apache Projects?

Sharan, You might find useful resources and contacts via as well. - Dennis > -Original Message- > From: Sharan Foga [mailto:sharan.f...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 03:45 > To: dev@community.apache.org > Subject: Re: Encouraging More Women to Particip

RE: People finder

> -Original Message- > From: Shane Curcuru [mailto:a...@shanecurcuru.org] > Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 09:06 > To: dev@community.apache.org > Subject: Re: People finder > > Daniel Ruggeri wrote on 3/5/16 11:07 AM: > > Hi, all; > >It's been in my backlog to update and/or add my inf

RE: Help Wanted! (it's a title, not a request!)

I appreciate Ross's concern. I have a companion one. Bottom line, I would be very discouraged if manual use were excluded. - Dennis RELATED THOUGHTS The greatest source of issues and concerns and also some interest in how to help for Apache OpenOffice is end-users and some inexperienced dev

RE: Help Wanted! (it's a title, not a request!)

tem build tools to consult on selecting one? > > OpenOffice actually have an expert at hand. LibreOffice (fork of > OpenOffice) has changed the build system into something quite handy > (even though still complex). > > rgds > jan i. > > > > > > &g

RE: Help Wanted! (it's a title, not a request!)

+1, +1, etc. Apache OpenOffice is overflowing with opportunities to make use of this. I did not notice a way to indicate that a task has been "taken" or is completed/withdrawn. (I could have missed it.) I assume a potential GSoC mini-project could be identified in the title or short descripti

RE: Guiding volunteers

In the case of GSoC mentoring, one needed change is to add the search case http://s.apache.org/gsoc2016tasks or maybe a generic http://s.apache.org/gsoctasks. Then the Guide to being a mentor can be updated to match that and not continue to mention "gsoc2011". This requires adding a public f

RE: Thanks for AOO

The PDF is filed at . > -Original Message- > From: Jim Jagielski [mailto:j...@jagunet.com] > Sent: Friday, December 4, 2015 04:45 > To: dev@community.apache.org > Subject: Re: Thanks for AOO > > Attachment must have gotten stripped off > > > On Dec 4, 2015, at 7:

FW: Question relating to a problem in Open Office

Soundaram, I have forwarded your message to dev@ openoffice.apache.org where you may find better responss. The remedy is to find the lock file in the same folder as the document that was open at the time of interruption. It will have a similar name to the one that was open. Delete that fil

RE: ACEU Presentation Template - OWN GOAL

st that is basically useful). - Dennis -Original Message----- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 09:18 To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: ACEU Presentation Template Truly back at the same venue? <http://events.linuxfoundation.org/eve

RE: Grace Hopper talk

I think Grace Hopper would have thought open-source development to be great. She had a serious populist streak that would have resonated. I'm not so certain she would admire a certain lack of discipline, but we might never know. She was not into complexification at all. This reminds me that

RE: What is the legal basis for enforcing release policies at ASF?

[Failing at dealing with this cross-posted and variously-branched discussion on two lists, so I am doing it too. Also OT with respect to Ross's declaration, but it has to do with the fact that "release" is not so well distinguished as one might hope.] Minor nit? #1: Generally, because of wha

RE: Licensing Issue

Sent off-list by mistake. (fat-fingered the "To" list) -Original Message----- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 09:23 To: 'Ted Dunning' Subject: RE: Licensing Issue The TL;DR My concern is about any statement that s

Blank list messages (was RE: moderators?)

Ross, as I have mentioned to you off-list, I receive blank emails from you and a few others on certain @apache lists. I think this is a discrepancy in how HTML-formatted emails manage to get from one client to another and I suspect that it probably relates to protocol discrepancies involving sm

RE: This week's Apache meetups

Might it be easier to just link to And to maybe post a reminder from time to time? I take it you are inviting updates to this web page. Not sure where that exists in a repository (probably because of inattention on my part). Please provide a reminder in

RE: Veto! Veto?

In more-formal arrangements, do-overs must be initiated by someone whose vote was on the prevailing side of the previous deliberation. This is a way to avoid constant reconsideration in what is more like an adversarial procedure. The local government where I live is in a state of perpetual rec

RE: Veto! Veto?

I think it is great that there are all of these views on the importance of consensus and how that ties to the nurturing of community and harmony toward a common purpose. I wouldn't even hang around ASF, after having grasped what little of that as I have, if it was not the case. And it is obvio

RE: Veto! Veto?

I think we should not confuse consensus with unanimity, because a -1 need not cure to a +1. The procedures are more nuanced than that, , and there are many ways a cooperating participant can express their concern. I do notice that there

ACEU Presentation Template

From: Rich Bowen [mailto:rbo...@rcbowen.com] Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 06:56 To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: ACNA Presentation Template On 03/22/2015 12:40 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: [ ... ] > In anticipation of the next AC-anywhere, I want to help turn this (and the &g

RE: ACNA Presentation Template

Thanks Nick, those are great! I consider the problem solved. In anticipation of the next AC-anywhere, I want to help turn this (and the previous two under Linux Foundation) into a form that can be repurposed/reused/customized along with information on how to do it and the resources/skills that

RE: ACNA Presentation Template - Crunch

nis E. Hamilton Cc: dev@community.apache.org; 'Melissa Warnkin' Subject: RE: ACNA Presentation Template - Crunch On Sat, 21 Mar 2015, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > I have extracted the three background images from the ACEU14 > presentation. They are not possible to morph. They are

RE: ACNA Presentation Template - Crunch

15-03-25T01:44Z) I am simply going to default on this. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2015 12:11 To: dev@community.apache.org Cc: 'Melissa Warnkin'; 'Nick Burch' Subject: RE: ACNA Prese

RE: ACNA Presentation Template - Crunch

ng to Fail. I would rather fail now, though I have no great Plan B. And I love Nick's feather image. - Dennis PS: "Hey, you know that simple change you wanted? It turned to be extremely simple and it is all done now." -- No software developer, ever. -Original Me

RE: ACNA Presentation Template

I assume that is what I am working on. I am adapting ACEU 2014 for ACNA 2015 as easily as possible. I assume that any IP issue is solved when the image is replaced. I'm also assuming, based on silence, that this template was used and none had a problem with it. If there is a particular place

RE: Veto! Veto?

Can someone please link to any place where invitation of committers and of PMC members is subject to a veto (as opposed to a need to see if -1 objections can be cured in discussion of the objection) as a matter of policy? [One case is that PMC invitations are subject to Board lazy consensus, but

RE: ACNA Presentation Template

ent with it. On 03/19/2015 12:00 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > [ ... ] > And this one is from ACEU 2014, > > http://people.apache.org/~nick/NickTemplateACEU14.odp > [ ... ]

RE: ACNA Presentation Template

Just for calibration, my interpretation of the request was to update an existing previous-conference presentation template to reflect the new venue and dates for ACNA 2015. I was not expecting a big job. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil

RE: ACNA Presentation Template

s.hamil...@acm.org; dev@community.apache.org; 'Melissa Warnkin' Subject: Re: ACNA Presentation Template On 03/19/2015 01:16 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > Jeepers, > > OK, I put the request on dev-openoffice and there were no bites. > > Somebody, send the last one to me and I will

RE: ACNA Presentation Template

The way I dealt with projector format differences at a workshop last year was to make dual versions. For some reason, 4:3 worked better all around, perhaps because the screen captures I had tended to fit better, leaving more room for a little text in my old-school approach. And the projector s

RE: ACNA Presentation Template

Jeepers, OK, I put the request on dev-openoffice and there were no bites. Somebody, send the last one to me and I will see what I can do with it. It would help to know what is particularly liked about the last one so I don't muck it up. I figure this gives me OSCON 2015 booth-bunny pole posit

RE: ApacheCon NA CFP closed

-- replying below to -- From: jan i [mailto:j...@apache.org] Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 01:12 To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: ApacheCon NA CFP closed On Monday, February 2, 2015, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) < ross.gard...@microsoft.com> wrote: [ ... ] > Ross: "Hey, you know you a

RE: A maturity model for Apache projects

+1 Concerning CD10, I think the language of the statement is correct, but the footnote is not helpful, even though also correct. I think the problem might be context. For the footnote, try, "It is ASF policy that all software created and maintained by an Apache Project is available from the p

RE: Mailinglists - a tool from the 90s?

I think Ross's consideration also applies to the many folks who cling to technology of the 70s (i.e., the Internet versions of News Readers) to access and contribute to ASF mailing lists. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) [mailto:ross.gard...@microsoft.com]

RE: projects.apache.org overhaul proposal

nable. The opportunity to gradually organize and reconcile the dataflows into something that is possibly more coherent and direct, without throwing big switches anywhere, is even more inspiration for +1. -- Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org dennis.hamil...@acm.org+1-206-779

RE: A maturity model for Apache projects

It seems to me that the journalist practice of wanting confidential access serves the interests of the journalist, not the project. I would simply deny such requests and/or encourage the journalist to put questions on a public list. With regard to "competitors," I just remind myself that forkin

RE: Proposing for Apache Member?

ss. What hats are others wearing at the time of their participation on this thread? -- Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org+1-206-779-9430 https://keybase.io/orcmid PGP F96E 89FF D456 628A X.509 used and required for signed e-mail PS: Since it is rare, in practice, for me t

RE: Apache@ OSCON question

Historically, Expo Hall passes are free. OSCON charges a $25 fee that should be pre-registered for. My sense of this is that it is simply meant to discourage walk-ins that are not in the target audience of the conference and the expo sponsors. The info is in the last entry at

RE: New Committer Orientation

The only lists shown to me on that subscription page are committers-cvs concom infrastructure jobs site-cvs in category "Foundation lists". Is that what is meant by your follow-up on the whimsy.../subscribe function? -Original Message- From: Ber

RE: Some clarification needed for Apache Extra projects - Apache Extra in specific

...@opendirective.com] Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 13:56 To: Dennis Hamilton; dev@community.apache.org Subject: RE: Some clarification needed for Apache Extra projects - Apache Extra in specific Sent from my tablet On Sep 27, 2012 9:51 PM, "Dennis E. Hamilton" wrote: [ ... ] >

RE: Some clarification needed for Apache Extra projects - Apache Extra in specific

Luciano's account identifies a clean, bright line between Apache Extras and any Apache project. One point of clarification, however, since I see this statement repeatedly. It is clear that an Apache Extras project should not *deliver* packages or components on any org.apache.xxx... clas

RE: Can the one proposing a vote cast his vote?

On Jun 3, 2012 8:50 PM, "Dennis E. Hamilton" wrote: > > The only odd case about votes is typically when someone is sitting as a chairperson. In general, chairpersons (having not recused themselves) MAY vote when the vote cast makes a difference in the outcome, but SHALL NOT vote at

RE: Can the one proposing a vote cast his vote?

@Herbert In general, anyone should recuse themselves from voting or simply not vote if there is concern for (perception of) conflict of interest of any sort. There is no reason for someone calling a vote not to vote. It happens in governments and it happens in standard structures for operating

RE: Apache Extras Question

: dev@community.apache.org; dennis.hamil...@acm.org Subject: Re: Apache Extras Question Hey Dennis, On Dec 29, 2011, at 12:59 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > Thanks Chris, > > Just one caution. I mentioned authority over namespaces, not authority over > Apache Extras. The question is what const

RE: Apache Extras Question

Extras Question Hi Dennis, Thanks for replying, comments below: On Dec 29, 2011, at 12:13 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: [ ... ] > While there is probably next-to-nothing in the specifications (i.e., section > 7.7 of the Java Specification, 3rd edition) for namespaces that deals with >

RE: Apache Extras Question

It is an interesting idea that the apache-extras.org domain be usable this way. There is no mapping to projects directly (it being a mapping into code.google.com instead). Nevertheless, if the project label is "mylabel" then org.apache_extras.mylabel.* would work as a technical solution. (The

RE: Apache Extras Question

I think this situation is very clear-cut. The only two ways an Apache namespace should show up in an Apache Extras project is (1) for something of Apache that the project depends on: an external dependency, and (2) for a conforming implementation of a type that is defined by an Apache

RE: Teams and Leads - where leadership lives (sermonette warning)

Apache Way. I know I found it educational, I hope you appreciate it too. Ross -- Forwarded message ---------- From: Dennis E. Hamilton Date: 16 June 2011 19:27 Subject: RE: Teams and Leads - where leadership lives (sermonette warning) To: ooo-...@incubator.apache.org I think

RE: Apache project guidelines docs += independence?

In the proposed Committers page, , 1. There must be a better title than "New Committer Handling". I think "Assessing New Committers" would be better. Anything would be better. 2. In the last paragraph on Project Independence, "The go