Re: [DISCUSS] Consensus to make release candidates publicly accessible during the voting period

2025-01-09 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, Some of this was discussed several years ago, and we had the board approve some guidelines that can be found here: https://incubator.apache.org/guides/distribution.html Note that covers RC for PyPi and other platforms. Projects are not prohibited from publishing RCs, they just need to take

Re: [DISCUSS] Consensus to make release candidates publicly accessible during the voting period

2025-01-09 Thread tison
@Jarek: > but how PMCS turn that into practice - should be up to them. Of course. As stated in the the first mail, I'd "establish a consensus to explicitly allow making release candidates publicly accessible during the voting period." It's to "allow" or hint PMCs that they can do so, because, as

Re: [DISCUSS] Consensus to make release candidates publicly accessible during the voting period

2025-01-09 Thread Gary Gregory
Is this an opt-in or opt-out policy? We wouldn't want to do that for CVE fixed right? Gaty On Thu, Jan 9, 2025, 07:07 Jarek Potiuk wrote: > Sorry " should be *not *to encourage the projects to make it easy for > anyone to install and test the release" -> "should be to encourage the > projects

Re: [DISCUSS] Consensus to make release candidates publicly accessible during the voting period

2025-01-09 Thread Jarek Potiuk
Sorry " should be *not *to encourage the projects to make it easy for anyone to install and test the release" -> "should be to encourage the projects to make it easy for anyone to install and test the release" On Thu, Jan 9, 2025 at 1:06 PM Jarek Potiuk wrote: > Just a small thing to add - whil

Re: [DISCUSS] Consensus to make release candidates publicly accessible during the voting period

2025-01-09 Thread Jarek Potiuk
Just a small thing to add - while we are releasing RCs, I think the right approach should be not to encourage the projects to make it easy for anyone to install and test the release - which does not automatically mean to publish RC in the same way the final candidate is published. The key here is t

Re: [DISCUSS] Consensus to make release candidates publicly accessible during the voting period

2025-01-09 Thread Neil C Smith
On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 at 11:09, Piotr P. Karwasz wrote: > First of all, I share your intention of having the largest number of > users test our Release Candidates before the official release. If other > projects were able to test our candidates **before** the end of the > voting period: In NetBeans

Re: [DISCUSS] Consensus to make release candidates publicly accessible during the voting period

2025-01-09 Thread Piotr P. Karwasz
Hi tison, On 9.01.2025 11:22, tison wrote: I'd like to establish a consensus to explicitly allow making release candidates publicly accessible during the voting period. This should be an existing exercise that the source code of release candidates is available on dist.apache.org, e.g., [1]. [1

Re: [DISCUSS] Consensus to make release candidates publicly accessible during the voting period

2025-01-09 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Thu, Jan 9, 2025 at 11:25 AM tison wrote: > ...I'd like to establish a consensus to explicitly allow making release > candidates publicly accessible during the voting period... Aren't most or all ASF release candidates publicly accessible already? As in "you can get it if you know the UR

[DISCUSS] Consensus to make release candidates publicly accessible during the voting period

2025-01-09 Thread tison
Hi, I'd like to establish a consensus to explicitly allow making release candidates publicly accessible during the voting period. This should be an existing exercise that the source code of release candidates is available on dist.apache.org, e.g., [1]. [1] https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/