Re: June Monthly Members Moment

2022-05-09 Thread Josh Fischer
I added some content to the June newsletter. It could use some attention. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/yBKhD On Tue, May 3, 2022 at 12:26 PM Josh Fischer wrote: > I changed the structure of the Monthly Moments pages: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/0YyFD > > Starter page for J

Re: [DISCUSS] Crazy or good Idea?

2022-05-09 Thread Matt Sicker
So let's look at this from the point of view of a small PMC here, say any of those that have less than 10 committers or so still around (possibly even with only 3 active PMC members). I don't see how asking an already overburdened project to bootstrap their own ability to work on the project fullti

Re: [DISCUSS] Crazy or good Idea?

2022-05-09 Thread Jarek Potiuk
Worth checking. Seems to be possible for other non-profits with the same regime (see the list of the hosts there). I think the big difference here is not that the ASF points to OpenCollective, but that Open Collective points to ASF as the "host" and the PMC initiatives point to ASF as "host" when

RE: [DISCUSS] Crazy or good Idea?

2022-05-09 Thread Christofer Dutz
Hi Jarek, But I still can't believe this could be legal for the ASF to do. I would love it to be ok, but right now it's even problematic to even have links to commercial offerings regarding Apache projects, because that would endanger our non-profit status. I just can't believe something like t

Re: [DISCUSS] Crazy or good Idea?

2022-05-09 Thread Jarek Potiuk
And a comment - if, and only if ASF could become the Fiscal Host for all those initiatives and it would be legal from the point of view of the bylaws of the Foundation, this concern of yours Chris should be automatically handled: > I mean with most companies in the Industry, they only work with p

Re: [DISCUSS] Crazy or good Idea?

2022-05-09 Thread Jarek Potiuk
> What does it mean to “enable” marketing? If that’s the same level of marketing we get at the ASF already, then it’s dead in the water for most projects. The best is to show an example here. This is the initiative I recently supported https://opencollective.com/devfest-for-ukraine/ (And I hearti

Re: [DISCUSS] Crazy or good Idea?

2022-05-09 Thread Matt Sicker
What does it mean to “enable” marketing? If that’s the same level of marketing we get at the ASF already, then it’s dead in the water for most projects. — Matt Sicker > On May 9, 2022, at 10:22, Jarek Potiuk wrote: > >  >> >> I think the non-profit charity aspect definitely would disqualify

Re: [DISCUSS] Crazy or good Idea?

2022-05-09 Thread Jarek Potiuk
> I think the non-profit charity aspect definitely would disqualify the ASF as being one of these Fiscal Hosts. But in general, it does sound like they could be something usable, just not using the ASF as Fiscal Host. I am not sure to be honest. From at least looking at the description of what Fis

RE: [DISCUSS] Crazy or good Idea?

2022-05-09 Thread Christofer Dutz
Hi Roman and Jarek, well the reason I was proposing something new was that I did try to participate with some of the existing initiatives like Tidelift, but they showed a great amount of disinterest. It seems as if only the projects big enough are considered worthy of being supported. The entit

Re: A way to keep the name

2022-05-09 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Mon, May 9, 2022 at 4:35 PM me wrote: > > Roman, welcome to the party! LOL! Thanks ;-) > I think the scope of the risk (in terms of “what”) is fairly well understood. > Did you also estimate the probability of the risks? (i.e. likelihood?) IIRC mostly the likelihood. > Do you mind sharing

Re: A way to keep the name

2022-05-09 Thread me
Roman, welcome to the party! I think the scope of the risk (in terms of “what”) is fairly well understood. Did you also estimate the probability of the risks? (i.e. likelihood?)    Do you mind sharing what the results were of the previous assessment?  From: Roman Shaposhnik Reply: dev@commu

Re: [DISCUSS] Crazy or good Idea?

2022-05-09 Thread Jarek Potiuk
Very good points Roman. I think it's great to think about it with the building business "mindset" - this is the only way it can actually succeed. But maybe we do not have to go this way. The #1 seems much more attractive and there are other options. I think Open Collective is as close as it can be

Re: A way to keep the name

2022-05-09 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Thu, May 5, 2022 at 6:54 PM me wrote: > > > > > Subject: Re: A way to keep the name > > I think it's a good idea to make such a fund or simply make sure that > existing efforts (TAC, Outreachy engagement) have some deliberate and > conscious actions in this direction - knowing the past associa

Re: [DISCUSS] Crazy or good Idea?

2022-05-09 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Chris, thanks for sort of reviving the old thread I had before the war: I'm slowly coming back to my more regular Open Source life from all the craziness of the past two months. Because of that, there's not much to report back -- but I will share a few points and comment on a few of yours. Hope thi