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Re: IMPORTANT: Re: Forwarded: GitHub vs. FreeYourGadget Full Story

2017-07-13 Thread Sam Ruby
On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: > My experience with legal is it is a black hole. And I disagree with other > more blasise attitudes on this. > > I appreciate the feedback but there is an electronic changeover on dmca > occurring in the imminent future and all it takes is

Re: IMPORTANT: Re: Forwarded: GitHub vs. FreeYourGadget Full Story

2017-07-13 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
My experience with legal is it is a black hole. And I disagree with other more blasise attitudes on this. I appreciate the feedback but there is an electronic changeover on dmca occurring in the imminent future and all it takes is one disruptive troll. I am disappointed the response wasn't m

Re: IMPORTANT: Re: Forwarded: GitHub vs. FreeYourGadget Full Story

2017-07-13 Thread Joe Schaefer
DMCA is hardly a panacea.  While it does absolve us of copyright infringement claims against services used in the production of releases, it does not help in the slightest when it comes to releases themselves.That would make the whole point of voting on them moot. It's not urgent, not a new idea

Re: IMPORTANT: Re: Forwarded: GitHub vs. FreeYourGadget Full Story

2017-07-13 Thread Greg Stein
On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 7:22 AM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: > Sorry for my vagueness but this is important and you went left while i > went right on the topic. > Your most appropriate venue is legal-discuss@, and just that one list. -g

Re: IMPORTANT: Re: Forwarded: GitHub vs. FreeYourGadget Full Story

2017-07-13 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
Sorry for my vagueness but this is important and you went left while i went right on the topic. My actions are pretty specific but I will bubble them up because I think the urgency is being missed. My note has less to do with github. It has to do with the fact that someone could arguably fin

Re: IMPORTANT: Re: Forwarded: GitHub vs. FreeYourGadget Full Story

2017-07-13 Thread Greg Stein
We already keep copies of all GitHub activity on ASF systems, as mandated by VP Legal. The ASF is set up entirely different from GadgetBridge and our use of GitHub is ancillary compared to them. In addition, we already have pro bono lawyers ready to assist at any point. Please reduce the incredibl

IMPORTANT: Re: Forwarded: GitHub vs. FreeYourGadget Full Story

2017-07-13 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
Thank you Isabel. This is an interesting issue and there are protections against this very quick injunction process. My own firm had something similar occur and I am a designated agent for the DMCA. I think the ASF should immediately file an agent with the dmca https://www.copyright.gov/dmca-

Re: Forwarded: GitHub vs. FreeYourGadget Full Story

2017-07-13 Thread Isabel Drost-Fromm
On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 11:02:50AM +0200, Myrle Krantz wrote: > This story sounds like a very good argument for distributed source > control such as git or mercury. Even if GitHub had purposely "lost" > their entire repository, they would still at least have had the > complete check-in history of

Re: Forwarded: GitHub vs. FreeYourGadget Full Story

2017-07-13 Thread Myrle Krantz
This story sounds like a very good argument for distributed source control such as git or mercury. Even if GitHub had purposely "lost" their entire repository, they would still at least have had the complete check-in history of their project sources locally on each of their three developer machine

Re: Forwarded: GitHub vs. FreeYourGadget Full Story

2017-07-13 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:24 AM, Isabel Drost-Fromm wrote: > ...I believe this is one of those stories that are a datapoint in favour of > keeping all vital history of our projects (that is code, docs, decisions and > arguments exchanged) mirrored on systems we control... Yes, thanks very much f

Forwarded: GitHub vs. FreeYourGadget Full Story

2017-07-13 Thread Isabel Drost-Fromm
Hi, I thought it would make sense to share the following story with the wider Apache community (those who shared it with me are on CC and can potentially provide more background should that be needed). I believe this is one of those stories that are a datapoint in favour of keeping all vital his