RE: Apache and Java

2017-03-19 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I think, if you look at the DRAT diagrams that Chris Mattmann provided up-thread, there is another factor that can figure into the someone asking the original question. If someone, especially a student or recent-graduate, has skills in a particular development and language approach, and is look

Re: Apache and Java

2017-03-19 Thread Chris Mattmann
Folks may want to check out the analysis that Karanjeet Singh and I did with DRAT regarding Apache projects, and their code diversity: http://drat.dyndns.org:8080/dratviz/ DRAT is here: http://github.com/chrismattmann/drat/ Thanks for listening. Chris On 3/19/17, 12:57 PM, "Christopher" wr

Re: Apache and Java

2017-03-19 Thread Mohammad Noureldin
Hi I believe also it might have to do with timing reasons. When Open Source software started to prove by time that it can get people together to produce high quality software that different businesses​/enterprises can trust to operate their business, Java/JEE was at the center of the hype, and

Re: Apache and Java

2017-03-19 Thread Christopher
I think you've got the question backwards. The ASF does not really create projects. Projects create development communities at ASF. So, I think the real question should be: what makes Apache so appealing to Java-based projects? I think the answer to that question is probably "the same things that

Re: Apache and Java

2017-03-19 Thread Shane Curcuru
It doesn't matter that the ASF has a lot of Java code. What matters is that a lot of communities who wrote Java tools decided to come to the ASF to build their projects here. The ASF exists to create software for the public good, and we do that by supporting the projects who want to be here. So

Re: Social Media Roster of the ASF

2017-03-19 Thread Shane Curcuru
Raphael Bircher wrote on 3/19/17 6:04 AM: > Hi all > > During the Facebook page setup we find out, that we have no overview > over our social media channels. It would be good to have a social media > roster somewhere in the private area (maybe Committers?) > With the project, the URL and who manag

Re: Apache and Java

2017-03-19 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Java is a good language choice if you want object orientated programming support and are targeting multiple platforms. That is likely to be the case for many Apache projects. Apache OpenOffice is mainly C++. It has an unpleasantly complicated configuration process and multiple sets of build in

Re: Social Media Roster of the ASF

2017-03-19 Thread Niclas Hedhman
Why private area and not a web page? On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 6:04 PM, Raphael Bircher wrote: > Hi all > > During the Facebook page setup we find out, that we have no overview over > our social media channels. It would be good to have a social media roster > somewhere in the private area (maybe C

Re: Apache and Java

2017-03-19 Thread Niclas Hedhman
First of all, we don't want language wars here, and as you correctly point out, the language is a tool and more often than not it isn't the "problem at hand" that defines which language to use, but which language most people in the group are good at. And some languages are harder to be good at, and

Re: Social Media Roster of the ASF

2017-03-19 Thread Sharan Foga
Hi Raphael This is a good idea and I was just thinking something similar but you beat me to it! :-). Thanks Sharan On 19/03/17 11:04, Raphael Bircher wrote: Hi all During the Facebook page setup we find out, that we have no overview over our social media channels. It would be good to have

Social Media Roster of the ASF

2017-03-19 Thread Raphael Bircher
Hi all During the Facebook page setup we find out, that we have no overview over our social media channels. It would be good to have a social media roster somewhere in the private area (maybe Committers?) With the project, the URL and who manages the social media. What do you think about it

Re: Apache and Java

2017-03-19 Thread Sagiruddin Mondal
A quick thought I want to add .. can we extend this discussion for, 1. What ASF project should have been done in other language apart from JAVA ? and Why ? 2. In the current time JAVA is massive but what feature is lacking in java which gives other language a chance to this sport event ? PS. I d

Re: Apache and Java

2017-03-19 Thread Hervé BOUTEMY
+1 just a little addition: "Java at Apache" was called Jakarta I don't know if newbies know about Jakarta nowadays, but Jakarta was the home for so many tools that became later independant Apache Top Level Projects Regards, Hervé Le dimanche 19 mars 2017, 17:03:09 CET Niclas Hedhman a écrit :

Re: Apache and Java

2017-03-19 Thread Niclas Hedhman
I think it is a combination of several factors; * Historical - The first non-httpd project in Apache was Java, followed by a handful of others. * Java is one of the big languages. * Some projects are spin-offs from other ASF projects * External Java projects knows Apache Java projects v

Apache and Java

2017-03-19 Thread Spaghetti Roulette
Why do Apache projects use Java so extensively? It looks to me that a lot of projects, if not most of them, are written in Java, and I can't get my head around this fact. Is there any reason, perhaps technical, or is it just coincidence? -