Re: Incubating, Graduating & Code of conduct @ The ASF (spin-off of Better specifying....)

As it has been established in the "Veto! Veto?" thread that with procedural issues a bit more is required than the generic statements in the Code of Conduct and other pages describing the Apache Way. Especially if a project wants to deviate from the general rule of a simple majority voting for spec

Re: Incubating, Graduating & Code of conduct @ The ASF (spin-off of Better specifying....)

On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 4:12 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > In fact, I told at least one podling that bylaws are a faint smell of > trouble -- if you have enough conflict to feel the need to write down > the rules, you might do better working out the reason for the conflict > than writing down the r

RE: Incubating, Graduating & Code of conduct @ The ASF (spin-off of Better specifying....)

It's my opinion based on accepted practice (and the way I and fellow directors addressed non-technical disputes taken to the board). We've been operating like this since day one. Most project bye laws (that I've read) acknowledge the. E.g. Forrest: For more information about the way that Apach

RE: Incubating, Graduating & Code of conduct @ The ASF (spin-off of Better specifying....)

Almost every board resolution to create a project contains... RESOLVED, that the initial PROJECT PMC be and hereby is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development and increased participation in the PROJECT; and be it further -Original Message- F

Re: Incubating, Graduating & Code of conduct @ The ASF (spin-off of Better specifying....)

Writing as someone who has mentored a squad of podlings, I do not believe that there is any requirement for any project to ever adopt any bylaws at all. I was never involved where the board ask for bylaws, and I'm faintly curious as to how that ever came to pass. The normal process is for podlings

Re: Incubating, Graduating & Code of conduct @ The ASF (spin-off of Better specifying....)

Then again, Jan stated that he thought that instilling compliance to the official ASF policies, or expressions of deviation thereof, in the bylaws is a part of the incubation process. Is he wrong with his assumption? Or does the incubator project have it mixed up somewhere and he is right? Best re

Re: Incubating, Graduating & Code of conduct @ The ASF (spin-off of Better specifying....)

Is that just your opinion? Or something that is documented elsewhere as a part of the rules of the game for projects of the ASF? And if so, where? Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM * Services & Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retai

RE: Incubating, Graduating & Code of conduct @ The ASF (spin-off of Better specifying....)

In the absence of bye-laws the defaults apply. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Pierre Smits Sent: ‎7/‎4/‎2015 3:35 PM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: Incubating, Graduating & Code of conduct

Re: Incubating, Graduating & Code of conduct @ The ASF (spin-off of Better specifying....)

How can that be? The board of the ASF explicitly tasks the projects (at least those that I have seen, as mentioned in my earlier posting) to establish a set of bylaws. That sounds like a binding clause for being a project of the ASF. The conclusion that can be derived from that is that the project

RE: Incubating, Graduating & Code of conduct @ The ASF (spin-off of Better specifying....)

No I said if projects don't write bye-laws then the defaults if the Apache Way apply. If they have local bye-laws they are expected to be in the spirit of the Apache Way but tuned to the specifics of that project. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Pierre Smits

Incubating, Graduating & Code of conduct @ The ASF (spin-off of Better specifying....)

Off list? I am sure that quite a few more than just I couldn't distill anything insightful or meaningful from your alrgument. So are we to understand that doing the right thing with respect to the community is pushing paperwork? Doesn't that make the Community over Code aspect of the Apache Way n

Re: svn commit: r1689145 - in /comdev/projects.apache.org/site: doap/whimsy/whimsy.rdf json/projects/whimsy.json

ok parsecommittees.py updated (with generated content) in http://svn.apache.org/r1689183 notice http://whimsical.apache.org/ does not really gives meaningful result at the moment Regards, Hervé Le samedi 4 juillet 2015 15:48:20 sebb a écrit : > On 4 July 2015 at 12:36, wrote: > > Author: hb

Re: switching projects to projects-old and project-new to projects

issue created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-9916 I'll see on HipChat who will work on this with me Regards, Hervé Le samedi 27 juin 2015 12:20:18 jan i a écrit : > On 27 June 2015 at 12:04, Hervé BOUTEMY wrote: > > After recent discussions, I updated projects-new to be completely

RE: Incubating, Graduating & Code of conduct @ The ASF (spin-off of Better specifying....)

Sorry rushing and as has been pointed out off list auto-correct was not kind here. First sentence is unparseable so here it is again: The ASF is about doing the right thing in code, not pushing paperwork (or the electronic equivalent). Sent from my Windows Phone ___

RE: Incubating, Graduating & Code of conduct @ The ASF (spin-off of Better specifying....)

The ASF is about doing the right thing in code, not loading passport (our the electronic equivalent). There are default position for most situations in a project. In the absence of project specific exceptions the default applies. Most projects are happy with the default and prefer to write code

Incubating, Graduating & Code of conduct @ The ASF (spin-off of Better specifying....)

>> Having such an official ASF policy without the executing office policing >> it, without podlings being required to accept and instill it in their >> bylaws before graduation and allowing existing projects not to incorporate >> it makes it nothing more than a hollow statement, >> > Being part of

Re: svn commit: r1689145 - in /comdev/projects.apache.org/site: doap/whimsy/whimsy.rdf json/projects/whimsy.json

On 4 July 2015 at 12:36, wrote: > Author: hboutemy > Date: Sat Jul 4 11:36:45 2015 > New Revision: 1689145 > > URL: http://svn.apache.org/r1689145 > Log: > added Whimsy files > > Added: > comdev/projects.apache.org/site/doap/whimsy/whimsy.rdf > comdev/projects.apache.org/site/json/projec