Re: How can we support a faster release cadence?

2014-02-12 Thread Phil Steitz
On 2/12/14, 7:23 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Phil Steitz wrote: > >> I know this looks old-fashioned, even downright anachronistic to >> "push-hourly-from-CI" people; but deciding *what* to release *as a >> community* is an important responsibility of ASF PMCs.

Re: How can we support a faster release cadence?

2014-02-12 Thread Brian LeRoux
I'd like to throw out some thoughts in support of this thinking and help explore how we can support faster releases at Apache. Cordova has bias to shipping. We started shipping on a schedule mid 2011 and this was a very deliberate choice, after two years of scattered, and frankly reactionary, rele

Re: How can we support a faster release cadence?

2014-02-12 Thread Joseph Schaefer
Should projects wishing to circumvent Apache policy avoid Apache? See two people can play that rhetorical game Marvin. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 12, 2014, at 10:23 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > >> On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Phil Steitz wrote: >> >> I know this looks old-fashioned,

Re: How can we support a faster release cadence?

2014-02-12 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Phil Steitz wrote: > I know this looks old-fashioned, even downright anachronistic to > "push-hourly-from-CI" people; but deciding *what* to release *as a > community* is an important responsibility of ASF PMCs. Putting > things on a rigid schedule basically ski

First pass done

2014-02-12 Thread Rich Bowen
I've done the first pass through the CFP ratings, and made the appropriate Yes/No designations on http://tm3.org/cfpreview There's still quite a bit of work to do, since there's still a LOT of talks that are marked "Maybe". Here's a few things I can use help with: 1) Identify tracks that are

Re: ApacheCon status and proceeding forward

2014-02-12 Thread Rich Bowen
On 02/12/2014 11:57 AM, Jan Willem Janssen wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I'm a bit confused as to what the current status is on the track selection for ApacheCon NA. I've seen the proposed track list, but what do we do with the content of those tracks? And what about

Re: ApacheCon CFP: Assistance needed

2014-02-12 Thread Rich Bowen
On 02/12/2014 08:08 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Rich Bowen wrote: I'm going through the reviewed talks and marking things as "yes" and "no" in http://tm3.org/cfpreview/ based on their average score. I would appreciate if someone would go through the CFP site and mar

Re: ApacheCon CFP: Assistance needed

2014-02-12 Thread Kay Schenk
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Rich Bowen wrote: > I'm going through the reviewed talks and marking things as "yes" and "no" > in http://tm3.org/cfpreview/ based on their average score. I would > appreciate if someone would go through the CFP site and mark a line in some > way if that speaker i

ApacheCon CFP: Assistance needed

2014-02-12 Thread Rich Bowen
I'm going through the reviewed talks and marking things as "yes" and "no" in http://tm3.org/cfpreview/ based on their average score. I would appreciate if someone would go through the CFP site and mark a line in some way if that speaker indicated that they need funding. I'm sure I'll need more

Re: How can we support a faster release cadence?

2014-02-12 Thread Phil Steitz
On 2/11/14, 11:04 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 7:56 AM, Joseph Schaefer > wrote: >> The core question for me is do we want to continue >> down this path of attempting to be all things to >> all people with no common culture or values or processes, >> or is there a floor so

Re: How can we support a faster release cadence?

2014-02-12 Thread Doug Cutting
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 7:46 PM, Henri Yandell wrote: > If we view Apache as a certification of a certain style of quality, then > that fits nicely with my suggestion that anyone wanting a faster cadence > should go do such under their own name/brand > +1 > and roll the changes up to the mainl

ApacheCon status and proceeding forward

2014-02-12 Thread Jan Willem Janssen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I'm a bit confused as to what the current status is on the track selection for ApacheCon NA. I've seen the proposed track list, but what do we do with the content of those tracks? And what about the proposals that still are not categorized, is tha