Re: How can we support a faster release cadence?

2014-02-07 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 3:02 AM, Stephen Connolly wrote: > So the second issue is what a PMC member is required to do before voting... > > As a PMC member you are required to > > 1. Download the source code package > 2. Compile it as provided > 3. Test the resulting executable on your own platform

Re: How can we support a faster release cadence?

2014-02-07 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Stephen Connolly wrote: > I checked and I think my very original post is reply to dev... Somebody on > the board list pulled it back in I suspect. I didn't get my diagnosis quite right. The copy delivered to dev@community.apache has the following headers: To

Re: How can we support a faster release cadence?

2014-02-07 Thread Dave Fisher
Keeping this in public. We VOTE and review precisely to minimize and catch the IP mistakes that inevitably happen when people are examining the IP from time to time. The community will care about quality, but minding the IP protects us all. RAT check, detailed review and 3 +1 where those involv

Help reviewing the ApacheCon NA 2014 talks submitted related to Science/OODT

2014-02-07 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (3980)
Hi Guys, I'm sorry if I missed this, but how can I help review the ApacheCon talks related to Science and OODT/etc.? I would be very happy to do help. Thanks and let me know. Cheers, Chris

Re: How can we support a faster release cadence?

2014-02-07 Thread Stephen Connolly
I checked and I think my very original post is reply to dev... Somebody on the board list pulled it back in I suspect. On Friday, 7 February 2014, Stephen Connolly < stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hmm not sure how that happened, board and the "friend" project's private > list were supp

Re: How can we support a faster release cadence?

2014-02-07 Thread Stephen Connolly
Hmm not sure how that happened, board and the "friend" project's private list were supposed to be BCC only... Arse! On Friday, 7 February 2014, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > Hi folks, > > This is an important topic, and when I have more time later I hope to > join in the fun. But for now I'd like to

Re: How can we support a faster release cadence?

2014-02-07 Thread Marvin Humphrey
Hi folks, This is an important topic, and when I have more time later I hope to join in the fun. But for now I'd like to point out that the replies in the kickoff post on dev@community.apache are set to go to board@apache, which is going to make this thread into a real mess of public and private

Re: How can we support a faster release cadence?

2014-02-07 Thread Eric Covener
On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > IMO, a more important question is: Does it fit within the "Apache Way" of > "Community over Code" to have a project release on a particular schedule? > Because it feels to me that if you have a release cadence then you are saying > "Clock ove

Re: How can we support a faster release cadence?

2014-02-07 Thread Alex Harui
IMO, a more important question is: Does it fit within the "Apache Way" of "Community over Code" to have a project release on a particular schedule? Because it feels to me that if you have a release cadence then you are saying "Clock over Community". I get that having a schedule helps many in

Re: How can we support a faster release cadence?

2014-02-07 Thread Stephen Connolly
To be clear, I am not sure if Maven wants such a rapid release cycle... after all we have been supposed to release 3.2.0 since Oct 1st 2013... and it's still not ready... The other way of looking at it is that if we did have a 1 release every 7 days we'd probably have 3.2.0 out already! There are

Re: How can we support a faster release cadence?

2014-02-07 Thread Bruno P. Kinoshita
Hi Stephen, @all I'm not involved in the Maven development, but I enjoy writing plug-ins for  Jenkins.  From a plug-in developer point of view, whenever a developer needs a change  in the Jenkins core, s/he knows that once there is a fix/pull request  for his issue, it will get released probably

Re: How can we support a faster release cadence?

2014-02-07 Thread Stephen Connolly
On 7 February 2014 11:02, Stephen Connolly wrote: > One of the projects I am involved with is the Jenkins project. At Jenkins > we cut a release of Jenkins every wednesday... assuming the test all pass... > Not every release is as stable as people might desire (the tests don't > catch everything),

How can we support a faster release cadence?

2014-02-07 Thread Stephen Connolly
One of the projects I am involved with is the Jenkins project. At Jenkins we cut a release of Jenkins every wednesday... assuming the test all pass... Not every release is as stable as people might desire (the tests don't catch everything), hence there is the LTS release line, but none the less, th