[GUMP@vmgump]: Project commons-scxml-test (in module apache-commons) failed

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[GUMP@vmgump]: Project commons-jelly-tags-sql (in module commons-jelly) failed

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Re: [math] Documenting exceptions in interfaces (MATH-854)

2012-09-13 Thread Gilles Sadowski
Hello. I'm also feeling tired of those issues. I must point out that this seems so complicated _because_ we depart from best practices (as finely described in e.g. "Effective Java"). Whatever seems a help (and probably is sometimes) in one direction leads to inconsistencies in another, like in thi

Re: [math] Documenting exceptions in interfaces (MATH-854)

2012-09-13 Thread Sébastien Brisard
Hi, 2012/9/13 Gilles Sadowski : > Hello. > > I'm also feeling tired of those issues. I must point out that this seems so > complicated _because_ we depart from best practices (as finely described in > e.g. "Effective Java"). > Whatever seems a help (and probably is sometimes) in one direction lead

Re: [math] Documenting exceptions in interfaces (MATH-854)

2012-09-13 Thread Gilles Sadowski
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:04:52PM +0200, Sébastien Brisard wrote: > Hi, > > 2012/9/13 Gilles Sadowski : > > Hello. > > > > I'm also feeling tired of those issues. I must point out that this seems so > > complicated _because_ we depart from best practices (as finely described in > > e.g. "Effectiv

Re: [math] Documenting exceptions in interfaces (MATH-854)

2012-09-13 Thread Sébastien Brisard
Hi, 2012/9/13 Gilles Sadowski : > On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:04:52PM +0200, Sébastien Brisard wrote: >> Hi, >> >> 2012/9/13 Gilles Sadowski : >> > Hello. >> > >> > I'm also feeling tired of those issues. I must point out that this seems so >> > complicated _because_ we depart from best practices (

Re: [math] silly classes naming question

2012-09-13 Thread Gilles Sadowski
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 06:04:51PM +0200, Luc Maisonobe wrote: > Le 12/09/2012 16:32, Gilles Sadowski a écrit : > > > > I think that "silly classes" should not be allowed in CM! > > As all I am able to do is silly work, [...] ^^ Didn't you mean "silly walk"? 8-

Re: [math] Documenting exceptions in interfaces (MATH-854)

2012-09-13 Thread Gilles Sadowski
Hi Sébastien. > > [...] > Right, this means I must revert (again!) my changes... We will get > there, eventually. Knowing that it was a huge effort (to get everything right), I had set 3.2 as the target for MATH-854. IMHO, there is no urgency to fix it in the coming days. After all, there is noth

[GUMP@vmgump]: Project commons-exec-test (in module apache-commons) failed

2012-09-13 Thread Gump
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Re: [Math] About "NullArgumentException"

2012-09-13 Thread Gilles Sadowski
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 01:10:41AM +0200, Gilles Sadowski wrote: > Hello. > > [For those who don't wish to read the whole post, please at least go towards > the end and indicate your preferred option. Thanks.] > > [... long post skipped ...] > > Back to square one, with 3 fully consistent altern

Re: [math] Documenting exceptions in interfaces (MATH-854)

2012-09-13 Thread Phil Steitz
On 9/12/12 11:27 PM, Sébastien Brisard wrote: > Dear all, > in previous discussions, it was decided that Interfaces (and, I > suppose abstract methods) should *not* have a throws clause. I probably should have responded earlier that I personally disagree with that conclusion. What is advertised i

Re: [math] Documenting exceptions in interfaces (MATH-854)

2012-09-13 Thread Sébastien Brisard
Hi Phil, thanks for this answer. 2012/9/13 Phil Steitz : > On 9/12/12 11:27 PM, Sébastien Brisard wrote: >> Dear all, >> in previous discussions, it was decided that Interfaces (and, I >> suppose abstract methods) should *not* have a throws clause. > > I probably should have responded earlier that

Re: [math] Documenting exceptions in interfaces (MATH-854)

2012-09-13 Thread Gilles Sadowski
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 07:51:29AM -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: > On 9/12/12 11:27 PM, Sébastien Brisard wrote: > > Dear all, > > in previous discussions, it was decided that Interfaces (and, I > > suppose abstract methods) should *not* have a throws clause. > > I probably should have responded earli

Re: svn commit: r1384363 - in /commons/proper/math/trunk/src: changes/ main/java/org/apache/commons/math3/linear/ test/java/org/apache/commons/math3/linear/ test/java/org/apache/commons/math3/random/

2012-09-13 Thread Thomas Neidhart
On 09/13/2012 05:13 PM, l...@apache.org wrote: > Author: luc > Date: Thu Sep 13 15:13:03 2012 > New Revision: 1384363 > > URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1384363&view=rev > Log: > Fixed an error in rectangular Cholesky decomposition. > > JIRA: MATH-789 Hi Luc, thanks for looking into this

RE: [Math] About "NullArgumentException"

2012-09-13 Thread Kish, Robert
Hello - I've been following this mailing list for a few months, and I feel this is a good opportunity to provide a first opinion on a topic. I find option 2, to never check for null, the best option. But, I think it would work even better with annotations such as package level @NonNullByD

Re: [Math] About "NullArgumentException"

2012-09-13 Thread Sébastien Brisard
Hi, 2012/9/13 Gilles Sadowski : > On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 01:10:41AM +0200, Gilles Sadowski wrote: >> Hello. >> >> [For those who don't wish to read the whole post, please at least go towards >> the end and indicate your preferred option. Thanks.] >> >> [... long post skipped ...] >> >> Back to sq

Re: [Math] About "NullArgumentException"

2012-09-13 Thread Gilles Sadowski
Hi. On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 01:34:38PM -0400, Kish, Robert wrote: > Hello - > I've been following this mailing list for a few months, and I > feel this is a good opportunity to provide a first opinion on a topic. > > I find option 2, to never check for null, the best option. But, I think >

Re: [Math] About "NullArgumentException"

2012-09-13 Thread Phil Steitz
On 9/12/12 4:10 PM, Gilles Sadowski wrote: > Hello. > > [For those who don't wish to read the whole post, please at least go towards > the end and indicate your preferred option. Thanks.] > >>> [...] All are bad arguments violating API contract, all detected at method activation time -> I

[GUMP@vmgump]: Project commons-dbcp (in module commons-dbcp-1.x) failed

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[GUMP@vmgump]: Project commons-digester3 (in module apache-commons) failed

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[GUMP@vmgump]: Project commons-chain2 (in module apache-commons) failed

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[GUMP@vmgump]: Project commons-proxy-test (in module apache-commons) failed

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[GUMP@vmgump]: Project commons-dbutils (in module apache-commons) failed

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Re: [Math] About "NullArgumentException"

2012-09-13 Thread Sébastien Brisard
Hi Phil >> >> Back to square one, with 3 fully consistent alternatives: >> 1. CM to always check for null? Then "NullArgumentException" inheriting from >> "MathIllegalArgumentException" is fine because we promise to the user >> that >> no NPE will ever propagate through the CM layer. [Br