On 2020-06-12, Gilles Sadowski wrote:
> 2020-06-12 15:52 UTC+02:00, Xeno Amess :
>> But if Apache Commons is thought to be a whole project, I do think
>> the relationship between each of its components should be enforced.
The Commons project is the legal entity that binds people with similar
int
On 2020-06-12, Xeno Amess wrote:
> Hi.
>>> 2. How are commons projects related?
>> They are not necessarily related. Usually it is considered
>> a feature if a component has zero dependency (as it is was
>> easier to avoid "JAR hell").
>> However, there are also drawbacks, e.g. duplicating func
2020-06-12 16:14 UTC+02:00, Xeno Amess :
>> Well, you had quite a few responses from me, for PRs
>> pertaining to "Commons Math"
> Indeed. And I think I learned a lot from you too. Thanks.
And I look forward to you staying around... :-)
>> even though that one I
>> qualify as a "zombie" project!
> Being on the PMC means that your VOTE is _binding_
> I think you are assuming that there is a lot of hierarchy, structure, and
> formalities that are just not here ;-)
Yep, indeed.
Gary Gregory 于2020年6月12日周五 下午10:34写道：
> On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 10:22 AM Xeno Amess wrote:
>
> > >> Speaking for
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 10:22 AM Xeno Amess wrote:
> >> Speaking for myself, as a volunteer here, I do what I can, when I can,
> with
> >> a eye toward using my time wisely while balancing many other
> >> responsibilities.
> >> Commons has over 20 components, some I use at work, some I used at pl
>> Speaking for myself, as a volunteer here, I do what I can, when I can,
with
>> a eye toward using my time wisely while balancing many other
>> responsibilities.
>> Commons has over 20 components, some I use at work, some I used at play,
>> some I do not use.
>> I do my best to pick low hanging f
Hi.
2020-06-12 15:52 UTC+02:00, Xeno Amess :
>> Some terms:
>> - Apache Commons is an Apache _project_.
>> - Apache Commons Lang is a _component_ of the _project_.
>
>> Each component has its own level of functionality and granularity. Some
> are
>> lower level, like Commons Lang and Commons IO an
> Well, you had quite a few responses from me, for PRs
> pertaining to "Commons Math"
Indeed. And I think I learned a lot from you too. Thanks.
> even though that one I
> qualify as a "zombie" project! [How it came to that
> state is told in the "dev" ML.]
Ah, I thought it be among the alive repo
Hi.
2020-06-12 15:44 UTC+02:00, Xeno Amess :
>>> 8. What should we do when we have a pr delayed for a long time? And how
>>> long is thought to be an unusual long time for waiting? 3 days.1 week,or
> 1
>>> month?
>
>> They might have been forgotten, or there may other issues.
>> Examples?
>
> for
> Speaking for myself, as a volunteer here, I do what I can, when I can,
with
> a eye toward using my time wisely while balancing many other
> responsibilities.
> Commons has over 20 components, some I use at work, some I used at play,
> some I do not use.
> I do my best to pick low hanging fruits,
> Hopefully we mean the same thing, but this is not
> true: Only those components for which a git repository
> was set up have their SVN set as read-only (by INFRA).
> See also my recent post asking how to finalize the
> move (to the "read-only area") of [Graph].
And maybe this is kind of off top
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 9:44 AM Xeno Amess wrote:
> >> 8. What should we do when we have a pr delayed for a long time? And how
> >> long is thought to be an unusual long time for waiting? 3 days.1 week,or
> 1
> >> month?
>
> > They might have been forgotten, or there may other issues.
> > Example
> Some terms:
> - Apache Commons is an Apache _project_.
> - Apache Commons Lang is a _component_ of the _project_.
> Each component has its own level of functionality and granularity. Some
are
> lower level, like Commons Lang and Commons IO and do not depend on
anything
> at runtime.
> Others off
2020-06-12 15:36 UTC+02:00, Gary Gregory :
> On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 9:07 AM Gilles Sadowski
> wrote:
>
>> Hello.
>>
>> Le ven. 12 juin 2020 à 13:51, Xeno Amess a écrit :
>> >
>> > 1. How can a project *** becomes commons-***, or how did a commons-***
>> > project started? What is the actual proc
>> 8. What should we do when we have a pr delayed for a long time? And how
>> long is thought to be an unusual long time for waiting? 3 days.1 week,or
1
>> month?
> They might have been forgotten, or there may other issues.
> Examples?
for 1 year example:
https://github.com/apache/commons-lang/pu
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 9:30 AM Xeno Amess wrote:
> Hi.
>
> >> 2. How are commons projects related?
>
> > They are not necessarily related. Usually it is considered
> > a feature if a component has zero dependency (as it is was
> > easier to avoid "JAR hell").
> > However, there are also drawbac
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 9:07 AM Gilles Sadowski
wrote:
> Hello.
>
> Le ven. 12 juin 2020 à 13:51, Xeno Amess a écrit :
> >
> > 1. How can a project *** becomes commons-***, or how did a commons-***
> > project started? What is the actual procedural?
>
> For new components, this list would be the
>> Are they under a same (or at least
>> similar) management mechanism? Or just sharing a common prefix?
> Do you mean the development tools (maven, git)?
> There some measure of "standardization" through the parent POM
> file, but nothing is really enforced. The code style depends on the
> regul
Hi.
>> 2. How are commons projects related?
> They are not necessarily related. Usually it is considered
> a feature if a component has zero dependency (as it is was
> easier to avoid "JAR hell").
> However, there are also drawbacks, e.g. duplicating functionality
> (and work) needed by several
Hello.
Le ven. 12 juin 2020 à 13:51, Xeno Amess a écrit :
>
> 1. How can a project *** becomes commons-***, or how did a commons-***
> project started? What is the actual procedural?
For new components, this list would be the place to make the
proposal. A discussion would decide if "Apache Comm
1. How can a project *** becomes commons-***, or how did a commons-***
project started? What is the actual procedural?
2. How are commons projects related? Are they under a same (or at least
similar) management mechanism? Or just sharing a common prefix?
3. How is commons projects' version control,
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