Re: Proposal: Commons SAX

2009-02-05 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Rahul Akolkar wrote: > On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Jukka Zitting > wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Until we come up with consensus on where (Commons, Xerces or Cocoon) >> we should place this proposed library, I'd like to start putting some >> bits together in the Commo

Re: Proposal: Commons SAX

2009-02-05 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 2:55 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote: > Until we come up with consensus on where (Commons, Xerces or Cocoon) > we should place this proposed library, I'd like to start putting some > bits together in the Commons Sandbox. I've now set up a project skeleton at https://svn.apach

Re: Proposal: Commons SAX

2009-01-07 Thread David Crossley
Michael Glavassevich wrote: > Ralph Goers wrote: > > someone wrote: > > > > > > As part of the gradual shutdown of the XML project, the Xerces PMC has > > > agreed some time ago to take over the responsibility for XML Commons. > > > The xml-commons group which you mentioned is basically for committ

Re: Proposal: Commons SAX

2009-01-02 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Jeremias Maerki wrote: > Frankly, I don't believe Cocoon is the right place. It's too high-level. > IMO, this should either be Commons or XML Commons. > While I don't think that Cocoon is too high level for this, I actually don't care that much where the code is hosted. As long as I'm able to comm

Re: Proposal: Commons SAX

2009-01-02 Thread Jeremias Maerki
Frankly, I don't believe Cocoon is the right place. It's too high-level. IMO, this should either be Commons or XML Commons. On 02.01.2009 09:11:52 Carsten Ziegeler wrote: > Jukka Zitting wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Carsten Ziegeler > > wrote: > >> In the Cocoon proje

Re: Proposal: Commons SAX

2009-01-02 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Jukka Zitting wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Carsten Ziegeler > wrote: >> In the Cocoon project we're about to refactor/move some of our common >> xml stuff into an own sub project at Cocoon. This will be a small >> reusable library. So maybe we could add the common stuff from

Re: Proposal: Commons SAX

2008-12-31 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote: > Hi, > > Until we come up with consensus on where (Commons, Xerces or Cocoon) > we should place this proposed library, I'd like to start putting some > bits together in the Commons Sandbox. > > The Commons web page defines the Sandbox as "a pl

Re: Proposal: Commons SAX

2008-12-31 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, Until we come up with consensus on where (Commons, Xerces or Cocoon) we should place this proposed library, I'd like to start putting some bits together in the Commons Sandbox. The Commons web page defines the Sandbox as "a place to try out new ideas and prepare for inclusion into the Commons

Re: Proposal: Commons SAX

2008-12-31 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: > In the Cocoon project we're about to refactor/move some of our common > xml stuff into an own sub project at Cocoon. This will be a small > reusable library. So maybe we could add the common stuff from Tika there > as well. We have a

Re: Proposal: Commons SAX

2008-12-29 Thread Michael Glavassevich
Ralph Goers wrote on 12/29/2008 02:36:30 PM: > On Dec 29, 2008, at 9:51 AM, Jeremias Maerki wrote: > > > As part of the gradual shutdown of the XML project, the Xerces PMC has > > agreed some time ago to take over the responsibility for XML Commons. > > The xml-commons group which you mentioned

Re: Proposal: Commons SAX

2008-12-29 Thread Ralph Goers
On Dec 29, 2008, at 9:51 AM, Jeremias Maerki wrote: As part of the gradual shutdown of the XML project, the Xerces PMC has agreed some time ago to take over the responsibility for XML Commons. The xml-commons group which you mentioned is basically for committers who only have access to XML comm

Re: Proposal: Commons SAX

2008-12-29 Thread Jeremias Maerki
As part of the gradual shutdown of the XML project, the Xerces PMC has agreed some time ago to take over the responsibility for XML Commons. The xml-commons group which you mentioned is basically for committers who only have access to XML commons (mainly Norman Walsh when he still worked on the res

Re: Proposal: Commons SAX

2008-12-29 Thread Ralph Goers
On Dec 29, 2008, at 6:20 AM, Jeremias Maerki wrote: See: http://markmail.org/message/i4mzckmqzy2gdwsc Xerces (responsible for XML Commons) seems open to revive XML Commons a bit. I think it would make sense to do Commons SAX or Commons XML in XML Commons, not here. I'm planning to invest

Re: Proposal: Commons SAX

2008-12-29 Thread Jeremias Maerki
See: http://markmail.org/message/i4mzckmqzy2gdwsc Xerces (responsible for XML Commons) seems open to revive XML Commons a bit. I think it would make sense to do Commons SAX or Commons XML in XML Commons, not here. I'm planning to invest some time in this after New Year. On 29.12.2008 12:07:14 Pau

Re: Proposal: Commons SAX

2008-12-29 Thread Paul Libbrecht
Erm... what about xml-commons ? http://xml.apache.org/commons/ is this considered dropped? At least another project that's in the realm of xml-commons is xml- resolver, or? Would that migrate in as well? It could but... paul Le 29-déc.-08 à 11:06, Jochen Wiedmann a écrit : On Mon, Dec 29

Re: Proposal: Commons SAX

2008-12-29 Thread Paul Libbrecht
It may be worth quoting that: - it's livable to be registered to commons-dev without filter (you need a swift delete key) - the filter practice is deep anchored until the netiquette for both commons-dev and commons-user so that mails without the project prefix are very quickly warned about a

Re: Proposal: Commons SAX

2008-12-29 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 4:56 AM, Henri Yandell wrote: > I don't see why it's not a good fit for Commons. We've a few xml > related components in the dormant section. I think a component with > things for both SAX and DOM would be fine, and letting it grow > organically would also work well. Ok,

Re: Proposal: Commons SAX

2008-12-28 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Jukka Zitting wrote: > I believe this code would be useful also outside Tika, and I was > thinking that it might perhaps make sense to create a Commons project > for this. I also know of some SAX processing classes in Cocoon and > Jackrabbit that could well be of interest to a wider audience. > > D

Re: Proposal: Commons SAX

2008-12-28 Thread Henri Yandell
I don't see why it's not a good fit for Commons. We've a few xml related components in the dormant section. I think a component with things for both SAX and DOM would be fine, and letting it grow organically would also work well. Hen On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 5:09 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote: > Hi, >

Re: Proposal: Commons SAX

2008-12-18 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 9:25 AM, Jeremias Maerki wrote: > Oversight/Responsibility over XML Commons has been transferred to the > Xerces PMC in November 2006. The XML project itself is subject to be > killed as soon as the last issues (AxKit & XIndice) have been dealt with. > Xerces is curre

Re: Proposal: Commons SAX

2008-12-18 Thread Jeremias Maerki
Oversight/Responsibility over XML Commons has been transferred to the Xerces PMC in November 2006. The XML project itself is subject to be killed as soon as the last issues (AxKit & XIndice) have been dealt with. Xerces is currently just using XML Commons to maintain the XML APIs. Not much else is

Re: Proposal: Commons SAX

2008-12-17 Thread Martin Cooper
"I looked at XML Commons in xml.apache.org, but it seems pretty dormant." Perhaps this would be an opportunity to re-vitalize it? I really dislike the implication that Commons should accept a new project simply because a more appropriate parent project wasn't paying attention. -- Martin Cooper

Re: Proposal: Commons SAX

2008-12-17 Thread Jeremias Maerki
FOP basically does all its XML parsing based on SAX. I don't see too much overlap right now (without looking more closely). But maybe someone can see something worth copying/moving in such a Commons SAX. A colleague of mine had to implement something like a TeeContentHandler a few weeks ago. So I g

Proposal: Commons SAX

2008-12-17 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, In the Apache Tika project [1] we use SAX quite a lot, and have written a set of quite useful general utility classes for SAX handling. For example, in org.apache.tika.sax [2] we have the following: * ContentHandlerDecorator - Convenient base class for writing ContentHandler decorators * Emb