Re: [discuss][Digester] The future of Digester an the Digester3 in sandbox - Take2

2011-03-24 Thread Simone Tripodi
hahaha thanks! BTW I really hope there will be another chance to come back in charge with this proposal :) Have a nice day, Simo http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://www.99soft.org/ On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 2:30 AM, Matt Benson wrote: > On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 6:50 PM, Simone Tripodi

Re: [discuss][Digester] The future of Digester an the Digester3 in sandbox - Take2

2011-03-23 Thread Matt Benson
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 6:50 PM, Simone Tripodi wrote: > Hi Matt!!! > I noticed 2 important points I'd like to discuss: > > 1) generally speaking, the bigger part of the users are lazy: they > just want to grab latest released artifact of XXX component with Maven > and use it, so it is hard to obt

Re: [discuss][Digester] The future of Digester an the Digester3 in sandbox - Take2

2011-03-23 Thread Simone Tripodi
Hi Matt!!! I noticed 2 important points I'd like to discuss: 1) generally speaking, the bigger part of the users are lazy: they just want to grab latest released artifact of XXX component with Maven and use it, so it is hard to obtain feedbacks from APIs not released yet; 2) committers/PMCs intere

Re: [discuss][Digester] The future of Digester an the Digester3 in sandbox - Take2

2011-03-23 Thread Matt Benson
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 6:37 AM, Simone Tripodi wrote: > Hi all guys, > looks like there's not enough activity/interest on new Digester, I > suggest to suspend this topic for a while and come speaking about it > until there will be interest from the users. > Thanks to all that took part of the dis

Re: [discuss][Digester] The future of Digester an the Digester3 in sandbox - Take2

2011-03-23 Thread Simone Tripodi
Hi all guys, looks like there's not enough activity/interest on new Digester, I suggest to suspend this topic for a while and come speaking about it until there will be interest from the users. Thanks to all that took part of the discussion! All the best, have a nice day, Simo http://people.apache

Re: [discuss][Digester] The future of Digester an the Digester3 in sandbox - Take2

2011-03-19 Thread Simone Tripodi
Hi all, thanks for the trust guys!!! I won't express my vote, it would be too incorrect IMHO. I'll keep my finger crossed to see at least the 3 consensus :) Have a nice weekend! Simo http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://www.99soft.org/ On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 8:27 PM, Matt Benson wr

Re: [discuss][Digester] The future of Digester an the Digester3 in sandbox - Take2

2011-03-19 Thread Matt Benson
On Mar 19, 2011, at 11:05 AM, Rahul Akolkar wrote: > On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Phil Steitz wrote: >> On 3/19/11 4:54 AM, Simone Tripodi wrote: >>> Hi Rahul, >>> thanks once again for the wise suggestions, much more than appreciated! >>> >>> I underestimated the importance of the users o

Re: [discuss][Digester] The future of Digester an the Digester3 in sandbox - Take2

2011-03-19 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Phil Steitz wrote: > On 3/19/11 4:54 AM, Simone Tripodi wrote: >> Hi Rahul, >> thanks once again for the wise suggestions, much more than appreciated! >> >> I underestimated the importance of the users over the active >> developers, so I totally agree with you, mo

Re: [discuss][Digester] The future of Digester an the Digester3 in sandbox - Take2

2011-03-19 Thread Gary Gregory
Before the release we should improve the unit test coverage. A migration guide with step by step help would be a nice addition. Gary On Mar 16, 2011, at 14:31, Simone Tripodi wrote: > Hi all mates!!! > I need your support on advising our users that a new version of > Digester is available on sa

Re: [discuss][Digester] The future of Digester an the Digester3 in sandbox - Take2

2011-03-19 Thread Simone Tripodi
Hi Phil!!! thanks for you feedbacks!!! Sure, there's no rush, let's do things taking the needed time :) Have a nice weekend, all the best, Simo http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://www.99soft.org/ On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Phil Steitz wrote: > On 3/19/11 4:54 AM, Simone Tripo

Re: [discuss][Digester] The future of Digester an the Digester3 in sandbox - Take2

2011-03-19 Thread Phil Steitz
On 3/19/11 4:54 AM, Simone Tripodi wrote: > Hi Rahul, > thanks once again for the wise suggestions, much more than appreciated! > > I underestimated the importance of the users over the active > developers, so I totally agree with you, moving to dormant is > premature. > > I was aware about breakin

Re: [discuss][Digester] The future of Digester an the Digester3 in sandbox - Take2

2011-03-19 Thread Simone Tripodi
Hi Rahul, thanks once again for the wise suggestions, much more than appreciated! I underestimated the importance of the users over the active developers, so I totally agree with you, moving to dormant is premature. I was aware about breaking APIs compatibility, since we had to face the same prob

Re: [discuss][Digester] The future of Digester an the Digester3 in sandbox - Take2

2011-03-18 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Simone Tripodi wrote: > Hi all mates!!! > I need your support on advising our users that a new version of > Digester is available on sandbox, I already sent more than once an > email on users ML but never got a reply, maybe my name is not so > influent between user

[discuss][Digester] The future of Digester an the Digester3 in sandbox - Take2

2011-03-16 Thread Simone Tripodi
Hi all mates!!! I need your support on advising our users that a new version of Digester is available on sandbox, I already sent more than once an email on users ML but never got a reply, maybe my name is not so influent between users or maybe the Digester is not so popular as I still think... but

Re: [discuss][Digester] The future of Digester an the Digester3 in sandbox

2011-03-05 Thread Simone Tripodi
Hi Rahul, sorry if I'm late, unfortunately I got distracted by other stuff :P I uploaded the Digester3 documentation in the Sandbox site space[1], and added a (poor, maybe) page[2] about differences between Digester and Digester3. Feel free to ping me whenever you want for clarifications!!! Have a

Re: [discuss][Digester] The future of Digester an the Digester3 in sandbox

2011-03-01 Thread Simone Tripodi
Hi Rahul!!! sure of course, I'll prepare a special section on the documentation to see a Digester->Digester3 migration scenario, so that also users can know pros and cons. Thanks for your support! have a nice day, Simo http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://www.99soft.org/ On Wed, Mar

Re: [discuss][Digester] The future of Digester an the Digester3 in sandbox

2011-03-01 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Simone Tripodi wrote: > Good morning all guys, > in the last month I've invested my spare time on redesigning a new > potential version of the Digester component in Sandbox, according to > what I proposed time ago on dev ML[1]. > The experiment is complete at 95%,

Re: [discuss][Digester] The future of Digester an the Digester3 in sandbox

2011-03-01 Thread Simone Tripodi
Thanks again for your feedbacks Matt, much more than appreciated! :) http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://www.99soft.org/ On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 7:02 PM, Matt Benson wrote: > > On Mar 1, 2011, at 10:22 AM, sebb wrote: > >> On 1 March 2011 15:55, Simone Tripodi wrote: >>> Hi Seb! >>

Re: [discuss][Digester] The future of Digester an the Digester3 in sandbox

2011-03-01 Thread Matt Benson
On Mar 1, 2011, at 10:22 AM, sebb wrote: > On 1 March 2011 15:55, Simone Tripodi wrote: >> Hi Seb! >> thanks a lot for your hints too, very appreciated! >> >> Something suggests me to remove the @SuppressWarnings because >> ClassCastException are admitted, let's suppose I have the given XML: >>

Re: [discuss][Digester] The future of Digester an the Digester3 in sandbox

2011-03-01 Thread Simone Tripodi
Hi Seb, I think you provided an excellent feedback, I can follow the path you just showed me and * add the warning in the parse() method; * provide an aux method, something like checkedParse() that takes the Class in input and performs the check once document has been parsed. On a side note, I'

Re: [discuss][Digester] The future of Digester an the Digester3 in sandbox

2011-03-01 Thread sebb
On 1 March 2011 15:55, Simone Tripodi wrote: > Hi Seb! > thanks a lot for your hints too, very appreciated! > > Something suggests me to remove the @SuppressWarnings because > ClassCastException are admitted, let's suppose I have the given XML: > > >    text > > > that can be mapped to > > class

Re: [discuss][Digester] The future of Digester an the Digester3 in sandbox

2011-03-01 Thread Simone Tripodi
Hi Seb! thanks a lot for your hints too, very appreciated! Something suggests me to remove the @SuppressWarnings because ClassCastException are admitted, let's suppose I have the given XML: text that can be mapped to class A { String prop; } if a user tries to map to a different type

Re: [discuss][Digester] The future of Digester an the Digester3 in sandbox

2011-03-01 Thread sebb
On 1 March 2011 08:00, Jörg Schaible wrote: > Hi Simone, > > Simone Tripodi wrote: > > [snip] > > >> @SuppressWarnings("unchecked") >> public T parse(InputSource input, Class returnedType) throws >> IOException, SAXException { >>  . >>  . >>  . >>  return returnedType.cast(this.root); >> } > > It

Re: [discuss][Digester] The future of Digester an the Digester3 in sandbox

2011-03-01 Thread Matt Benson
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 2:30 AM, Simone Tripodi wrote: > Hello Jorg, > absolutely, thanks a lot for your feedback too, very appreciated! Point taken, +1. Matt > Have a nice day, > Simo > > http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ > http://www.99soft.org/ > > > > On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 9:00 AM, J

Re: [discuss][Digester] The future of Digester an the Digester3 in sandbox

2011-03-01 Thread Simone Tripodi
Hello Jorg, absolutely, thanks a lot for your feedback too, very appreciated! Have a nice day, Simo http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://www.99soft.org/ On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Jörg Schaible wrote: > Hi Simone, > > Simone Tripodi wrote: > > [snip] > > >> @SuppressWarnings("u

Re: [discuss][Digester] The future of Digester an the Digester3 in sandbox

2011-03-01 Thread Jörg Schaible
Hi Simone, Simone Tripodi wrote: [snip] > @SuppressWarnings("unchecked") > public T parse(InputSource input, Class returnedType) throws > IOException, SAXException { > . > . > . > return returnedType.cast(this.root); > } It would be nice, if we can start to avoid such method global suppre

Re: [discuss][Digester] The future of Digester an the Digester3 in sandbox

2011-02-28 Thread Simone Tripodi
Hi Matt!!! thanks a lot for your feedbacks, you know I never consider them as $0.02 :) To reply to your question: I'm sure it is possible adapting the Module/EDLS over the existing Digester, adapting the existing configuration layer, but the core conceptual difference is that the current Digester

Re: [discuss][Digester] The future of Digester an the Digester3 in sandbox

2011-02-28 Thread Matt Benson
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 7:35 AM, Simone Tripodi wrote: > > Good morning all guys, > in the last month I've invested my spare time on redesigning a new > potential version of the Digester component in Sandbox, according to > what I proposed time ago on dev ML[1]. > The experiment is complete at 95%

[discuss][Digester] The future of Digester an the Digester3 in sandbox

2011-02-28 Thread Simone Tripodi
Good morning all guys, in the last month I've invested my spare time on redesigning a new potential version of the Digester component in Sandbox, according to what I proposed time ago on dev ML[1]. The experiment is complete at 95%, is not of course a release but there are enough tests/samples/docs