Re: [collections] 4.0 release path

2011-08-05 Thread Henri Yandell
On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 5:55 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: > On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 2:12 AM, Henri Yandell wrote: >> I think we should move the current trunk off and call it generics-RnD. >> >> Then we should copy 3.2 over to trunk (or maybe 3.3, I seem to recall >> that prior to merging the generics in

Re: [collections] 4.0 release path

2011-08-05 Thread Gary Gregory
On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 2:12 AM, Henri Yandell wrote: > I think we should move the current trunk off and call it generics-RnD. > > Then we should copy 3.2 over to trunk (or maybe 3.3, I seem to recall > that prior to merging the generics in we had a 3.3 ready for release). > > We then release 3.3.

Re: [collections] 4.0 release path

2011-08-05 Thread Simone Tripodi
Hi all guys, I would *personally* avoid all that amount of work, people already migrated to google-collections/guava so I wouldn't invest efforts on providing releases incrementally, but rather focused on a fresh new release that could attract again users that left us. Just my small 2cents, Simo h

Re: [collections] 4.0 release path

2011-08-05 Thread Stephen Colebourne
I don't mind multiple releases with (2), thats a see how it goes type approach. Stephen On 5 August 2011 08:38, Henri Yandell wrote: > Repeating myself just to make sure you're in full agreement; there > would be multiple releases within your 2) state. ie) Maybe we > genericize one method and the

Re: [collections] 4.0 release path

2011-08-05 Thread Henri Yandell
Repeating myself just to make sure you're in full agreement; there would be multiple releases within your 2) state. ie) Maybe we genericize one method and then release [to take it to extremes]. Hen On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 12:33 AM, Stephen Colebourne wrote: > I agree with this. And I think it ser

Re: [collections] 4.0 release path

2011-08-05 Thread Stephen Colebourne
I agree with this. And I think it serves users better, many of whom have migrated to Google Guava. 1) New bug fix only release, JDK 1.4 compatible 2) New release with some generics, backwards compatible 3) Re-evaluate whether an incompatible release makes sense Stephen On 5 August 2011 07:12, H

Re: [collections] 4.0 release path

2011-08-04 Thread Henri Yandell
I think we should move the current trunk off and call it generics-RnD. Then we should copy 3.2 over to trunk (or maybe 3.3, I seem to recall that prior to merging the generics in we had a 3.3 ready for release). We then release 3.3. Then we start 3.4. We genericize some tiny part of it in a bina

Re: [collections] 4.0 release path

2011-08-03 Thread Stephen Colebourne
I think that a key mistake was trying to do both generics and refactoring. I'd suggest that quite a few users would simply like a generified [collections] 3.5 that is fully backwards compatible (as the JDK was) and with no refactoring. Now, some of the API cannot be generified correctly, so for a

Re: [collections] 4.0 release path

2011-08-03 Thread Simone Tripodi
Thanks all for the feedbacks!!! I think that having generics (already done for what I can see) plus COLLECTIONS-310/351/372/377 + checking all issues where requesting generics would be reasonable to publish the 4.0 release. I don't know if someone already has a complete list of COLLECTIONS-310 rel

Re: [collections] 4.0 release path

2011-08-03 Thread Paul Benedict
Or do a pure generics release as 3.5 to satisfy that need... which allows 4.0 to have generics plus the benefit of major refactoring if necessary (could also be called 4.0 and 5.0). On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Matt Benson wrote: > On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: >> The mo

Re: [collections] 4.0 release path

2011-08-03 Thread Matt Benson
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: > The most important theme IMO is generics. That's what has come up at > work recently in fact. Everything else except showstopper bugs can > wait IMO. Indeed, this seems to resonate with Hen's recent treatise on (paraphrased) why the hell we ta

Re: [collections] 4.0 release path

2011-08-03 Thread Gary Gregory
The most important theme IMO is generics. That's what has come up at work recently in fact. Everything else except showstopper bugs can wait IMO. Gary On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Simone Tripodi wrote: > Hi all guys, > I'm (re)starting having a good slot of spare time, I volunteered to > help

[collections] 4.0 release path

2011-08-03 Thread Simone Tripodi
Hi all guys, I'm (re)starting having a good slot of spare time, I volunteered to help Matt on finalizing the [collections] release, but after had a look at the open issues I think we should agree on what including and what not. Does anyone already have a good overview/idea of collections roadmap? M