Re: [Math] Help in debugging process

2010-06-12 Thread Phil Steitz
Gilles Sadowski wrote: > Hi. > > What do you think of introducing logging statements in CM? > [If it was already discussed, does someone have a pointer?] We have not discussed this topic much since the beginning of [math], when we made the decision to try to avoid any external dependencies and th

Re: [Math] Help in debugging process

2010-06-11 Thread Ted Dunning
For what its worth (with warning about different strokes for different folks), we just removed all logging from the math portions of Mahout and were glad of it. The only exception was the massive map-reduce SVD solver that can run for hours or days. Getting log message out of that is actually nic

Re: [Math] Help in debugging process

2010-06-11 Thread Bill Barker
-- From: "Ted Dunning" Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 1:11 PM To: "Commons Developers List" Subject: Re: [Math] Help in debugging process From a user's point of view logging is a waste of time if it doesn't tell the

Re: [Math] Help in debugging process

2010-06-11 Thread Ted Dunning
>From a user's point of view logging is a waste of time if it doesn't tell them something that they need/can take action on. Thus, I could see that a solve might log some hints about what to do when it detects a badly ill-conditioned input, but I would be really not happy if it logs every pivot va

Re: [Math] Help in debugging process

2010-06-11 Thread Roman Werpachowski
Depends on the performance impact. I certainly wouldn't want to discover that upgrading CM to new version made my code 20% slower because the optimizer now logs stuff I'm not interested in. Regards, Roman Werpachowski On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Gilles Sadowski wrote: > Hi. > > What do you

Re: [Math] Help in debugging process

2010-06-11 Thread Ted Dunning
I would think that this would only be of use in very long running iterative algorithms and of only very minimal interest to the user. On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 6:21 AM, Gilles Sadowski < gil...@harfang.homelinux.org> wrote: > What do you think of introducing logging statements in CM? > [If it was a

[Math] Help in debugging process

2010-06-11 Thread Gilles Sadowski
Hi. What do you think of introducing logging statements in CM? [If it was already discussed, does someone have a pointer?] Best, Gilles - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail