Le 26 sept. 2015 15:19, "Ralph Goers" a écrit :
>
> Romain,
>
> Choosing JUL for a framework does a HUGE disservice to the users of your
framework. JUL is by far the worst logging framework design of anything you
could choose. It is like the JDK designers purposely chose to use a
mechanism to map
slf4j-api.jar also has no required dependencies.
On 09/26/2015 06:14 PM, Ralph Goers wrote:
The Log4j API has no dependencies. Log4j-core only requires log4j-api. It has
lots of optional features and so has lots of optional dependencies, but none
are required.
Ralph
On Sep 26, 2015, at 1
Romain,
Choosing JUL for a framework does a HUGE disservice to the users of your
framework. JUL is by far the worst logging framework design of anything you
could choose. It is like the JDK designers purposely chose to use a mechanism
to map their API to another implementation that really does
The Log4j API has no dependencies. Log4j-core only requires log4j-api. It has
lots of optional features and so has lots of optional dependencies, but none
are required.
Ralph
> On Sep 26, 2015, at 1:09 PM, Luc Maisonobe wrote:
>
> Le 26/09/2015 21:49, Romain Manni-Bucau a écrit :
>> Le 26
On Sat, 26 Sep 2015 10:02:12 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote:
On 9/26/15 9:42 AM, Gilles wrote:
On Sat, 26 Sep 2015 09:03:06 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote:
On 9/26/15 4:56 AM, Thomas Neidhart wrote:
On 09/26/2015 01:11 PM, Gilles wrote:
On Sat, 26 Sep 2015 09:53:30 +0200, Thomas Neidhart wrote:
On 09/26
On Sat, 26 Sep 2015 22:09:35 +0200, Luc Maisonobe wrote:
Le 26/09/2015 21:49, Romain Manni-Bucau a écrit :
Le 26 sept. 2015 12:07, "Luc Maisonobe" a écrit
:
Le 26/09/2015 20:59, Ralph Goers a écrit :
I don’t normally participate in Math but I do feel the need to
stick my
nose in here.
1. Yo
On Sat, 26 Sep 2015 19:07:53 +0200, Luc Maisonobe wrote:
Le 26/09/2015 18:42, Gilles a écrit :
On Sat, 26 Sep 2015 09:03:06 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote:
On 9/26/15 4:56 AM, Thomas Neidhart wrote:
On 09/26/2015 01:11 PM, Gilles wrote:
On Sat, 26 Sep 2015 09:53:30 +0200, Thomas Neidhart wrote:
On
Le 26/09/2015 21:49, Romain Manni-Bucau a écrit :
> Le 26 sept. 2015 12:07, "Luc Maisonobe" a écrit :
>>
>> Le 26/09/2015 20:59, Ralph Goers a écrit :
>>> I don’t normally participate in Math but I do feel the need to stick my
> nose in here.
>>> 1. You are absolutely correct to determine whether
On Sat, 26 Sep 2015 21:07:20 +0200, Luc Maisonobe wrote:
Le 26/09/2015 20:59, Ralph Goers a écrit :
I don’t normally participate in Math but I do feel the need to stick
my nose in here.
1. You are absolutely correct to determine whether you need logging
at all before discussing what to choose.
Le 26 sept. 2015 12:07, "Luc Maisonobe" a écrit :
>
> Le 26/09/2015 20:59, Ralph Goers a écrit :
> > I don’t normally participate in Math but I do feel the need to stick my
nose in here.
> > 1. You are absolutely correct to determine whether you need logging at
all before discussing what to choose
Le 26/09/2015 20:59, Ralph Goers a écrit :
> I don’t normally participate in Math but I do feel the need to stick my nose
> in here.
> 1. You are absolutely correct to determine whether you need logging at all
> before discussing what to choose.
> 2. If you do decide logging is required:
> a. P
I don’t normally participate in Math but I do feel the need to stick my nose in
here.
1. You are absolutely correct to determine whether you need logging at all
before discussing what to choose.
2. If you do decide logging is required:
a. Please stay away from java.util.logging. It really would
Le 26/09/2015 18:42, Gilles a écrit :
> On Sat, 26 Sep 2015 09:03:06 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote:
>> On 9/26/15 4:56 AM, Thomas Neidhart wrote:
>>> On 09/26/2015 01:11 PM, Gilles wrote:
On Sat, 26 Sep 2015 09:53:30 +0200, Thomas Neidhart wrote:
> On 09/26/2015 02:33 AM, Gilles wrote:
>> O
On 9/26/15 9:42 AM, Gilles wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Sep 2015 09:03:06 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote:
>> On 9/26/15 4:56 AM, Thomas Neidhart wrote:
>>> On 09/26/2015 01:11 PM, Gilles wrote:
On Sat, 26 Sep 2015 09:53:30 +0200, Thomas Neidhart wrote:
> On 09/26/2015 02:33 AM, Gilles wrote:
>> On Fr
On Sat, 26 Sep 2015 09:03:06 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote:
On 9/26/15 4:56 AM, Thomas Neidhart wrote:
On 09/26/2015 01:11 PM, Gilles wrote:
On Sat, 26 Sep 2015 09:53:30 +0200, Thomas Neidhart wrote:
On 09/26/2015 02:33 AM, Gilles wrote:
On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 16:52:26 -0700, Hasan Diwan wrote:
On 25
On 9/26/15 4:56 AM, Thomas Neidhart wrote:
> On 09/26/2015 01:11 PM, Gilles wrote:
>> On Sat, 26 Sep 2015 09:53:30 +0200, Thomas Neidhart wrote:
>>> On 09/26/2015 02:33 AM, Gilles wrote:
On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 16:52:26 -0700, Hasan Diwan wrote:
> On 25 September 2015 at 16:47, Gilles
> w
On Sat, 26 Sep 2015 13:56:29 +0200, Thomas Neidhart wrote:
On 09/26/2015 01:11 PM, Gilles wrote:
On Sat, 26 Sep 2015 09:53:30 +0200, Thomas Neidhart wrote:
On 09/26/2015 02:33 AM, Gilles wrote:
On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 16:52:26 -0700, Hasan Diwan wrote:
On 25 September 2015 at 16:47, Gilles
wrot
On 09/26/2015 01:11 PM, Gilles wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Sep 2015 09:53:30 +0200, Thomas Neidhart wrote:
>> On 09/26/2015 02:33 AM, Gilles wrote:
>>> On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 16:52:26 -0700, Hasan Diwan wrote:
On 25 September 2015 at 16:47, Gilles
wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 17:30:33 +020
On Sat, 26 Sep 2015 09:53:30 +0200, Thomas Neidhart wrote:
On 09/26/2015 02:33 AM, Gilles wrote:
On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 16:52:26 -0700, Hasan Diwan wrote:
On 25 September 2015 at 16:47, Gilles
wrote:
On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 17:30:33 +0200, Thomas Neidhart wrote:
On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 5:09 PM, G
On 09/26/2015 02:33 AM, Gilles wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 16:52:26 -0700, Hasan Diwan wrote:
>> On 25 September 2015 at 16:47, Gilles
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 17:30:33 +0200, Thomas Neidhart wrote:
>>>
On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Gilles
wrote:
On Fri, 25 Sep
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