RE: [DISCUSS] Release principles for Apache CloudStack

2015-07-03 Thread Raja Pullela
Remi, couple of questions on the branching part - when we take the Feature PR and Feature is back in Master, feel like we are potentially destabilizing Master ? I know, currently we push changes to master even before anything is tested fully - agree, we are now running the Travis test before

Re: [DISCUSS] LTS releases?

2015-07-03 Thread sebgoa
On Jul 2, 2015, at 4:58 PM, Remi Bergsma wrote: > Bug fixing in older releases is actually a lot of work. For security related > issues we could maybe do it. > > Personally, I prefer to have a fast release cycle and smooth (tested) upgrade > paths over 2-year LTS release cycle. It's more agi

Re: [DISCUSS] Release principles for Apache CloudStack

2015-07-03 Thread sebgoa
On Jul 3, 2015, at 9:06 AM, Raja Pullela wrote: > Remi, > > couple of questions on the branching part - when we take the Feature PR and > Feature is back in Master, feel like we are potentially destabilizing Master > ? I know, currently we push changes to master even before anything is >

Re: IRC and Slack

2015-07-03 Thread sebgoa
Some great ideas in there. I am +1 for: -consolidate #cloudstack-dev and #cloudstack -move bots to #cloudstack-announce -Remi's idea to publish slack message to #cloudstack (and vice versa). -the idea to use something like discourse or stack overflow etc… Somebody wants to take this on :) On

Re: [DISCUSS] Release principles for Apache CloudStack

2015-07-03 Thread Remi Bergsma
> On 3 jul. 2015, at 09:21, sebgoa wrote: > > On Jul 3, 2015, at 9:06 AM, Raja Pullela wrote: > >> Remi, >> >> couple of questions on the branching part - when we take the Feature PR and >> Feature is back in Master, feel like we are potentially destabilizing Master >> ? I know, currentl

Re: [PROPOSAL] Commit to master through PR only

2015-07-03 Thread sebgoa
On Jul 2, 2015, at 8:43 AM, Wilder Rodrigues wrote: > Sateesh and Rajesh, > > It seems you were the only guys who +1 the squash idea. Could you please > share with us what benefits you think squashing commits will bring? > > I wil give you the simplest example that could come to my mind to

Re: [DISCUSS] Release principles for Apache CloudStack

2015-07-03 Thread Remi Bergsma
Hi Rajani, all, I do think we have the same goal in mind: no regression and no cherry-pick mess. Just did some reading on "tofu scale" and see two issues: - if it doesn't happen / isn't completed we'll have regression as we've seen before. I want a working model that prevents regression by defau

Re: IRC and Slack

2015-07-03 Thread Erik Weber
On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 9:27 AM, sebgoa wrote: > Some great ideas in there. > > I am +1 for: > > -consolidate #cloudstack-dev and #cloudstack > -move bots to #cloudstack-announce > -Remi's idea to publish slack message to #cloudstack (and vice versa). > -the idea to use something like discourse or

Re: [DISCUSS] Release principles for Apache CloudStack

2015-07-03 Thread Erik Weber
On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Remi Bergsma wrote: > Hi Rajani, all, > > I do think we have the same goal in mind: no regression and no cherry-pick > mess. > > Just did some reading on "tofu scale" and see two issues: > - if it doesn't happen / isn't completed we'll have regression as we've > s

Re: IRC and Slack

2015-07-03 Thread Remi Bergsma
I setup a proof-of-concept a while back to test it: http://cloudstackdev.slack.com. There currently are around 30 people, mostly dev from this list. Anyone with an @apache.org account can sign-up and anyone else could ask me, Daan, Rohit, Wilder or Funs for an invite (for now). I can imagine we

Re: IRC and Slack

2015-07-03 Thread sebgoa
On Jul 3, 2015, at 10:17 AM, Remi Bergsma wrote: > I setup a proof-of-concept a while back to test it: > http://cloudstackdev.slack.com. There currently are around 30 people, mostly > dev from this list. > > Anyone with an @apache.org account can sign-up and anyone else could ask me, > Daan,

[GitHub] cloudstack pull request: Vpcr Marvin test and some fixes for vprc

2015-07-03 Thread wilderrodrigues
Github user wilderrodrigues commented on the pull request: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/558#issuecomment-118274161 Nice one, @isoutham ! I will test it this week and also try to get someone else to have a look so we get the 2 LGTM needed to merge. Thanks!

[GitHub] cloudstack pull request: Vpcr Marvin test and some fixes for vprc

2015-07-03 Thread wilderrodrigues
Github user wilderrodrigues commented on the pull request: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/558#issuecomment-118274398 Travis failed due timeout... so, that's not relevant and won't be taken into account when reviewing the PR: === No output has been received in th

Re: IRC and Slack

2015-07-03 Thread Remi Bergsma
Yes, I’ll have some time off coming up so I’ll give it a go. > any chance you can try that IRC/Slack integration pointing to #cloudstack ?

[GitHub] cloudstack pull request: Vpcr Marvin test and some fixes for vprc

2015-07-03 Thread remibergsma
Github user remibergsma commented on the pull request: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/558#issuecomment-118275941 @isoutham @wilderrodrigues is there a way to trigger the build again? --- If your project is set up for it, you can reply to this email and have your reply appe

[GitHub] cloudstack pull request: Vpcr Marvin test and some fixes for vprc

2015-07-03 Thread wilderrodrigues
Github user wilderrodrigues commented on the pull request: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/558#issuecomment-118279061 Only if something get pushed to the branch which generated the PR. Only 1 job out of 9 timed out... I wouldn't bother. --- If your project is set u

Re: [DISCUSS] LTS releases?

2015-07-03 Thread Rene Moser
Sebastien, So wouldn't it be nice to make clear which release is still supported and which release is not? On 03.07.2015 09:20, sebgoa wrote: > I think we got in a situation with 4.4 that called for us to keep maintaining > 4.3….and even after 4.5 was released. Because 4.3 was seen as a good re

Re: [GitHub] cloudstack pull request: As an operator I want to be able to chang...

2015-07-03 Thread Daan Hoogland
John, The descriptive message should be in the merge commit. It should state the cause of the collective. each individual should have a smaller message stating the reason for a simple atomic change. Taking what you say here we could squah the whole repo with the message 'making an cloud orchestrat

Re: [DISCUSS] LTS releases?

2015-07-03 Thread sebgoa
On Jul 3, 2015, at 11:13 AM, Rene Moser wrote: > Sebastien, > > So wouldn't it be nice to make clear which release is still supported > and which release is not? > > On 03.07.2015 09:20, sebgoa wrote: > >> I think we got in a situation with 4.4 that called for us to keep >> maintaining 4.3….

RE: [PROPOSAL] Commit to master through PR only

2015-07-03 Thread Stephen Turner
Personally, if I find a bug, I often go back to find when and why it was introduced, and I find it much more useful to be able to identify a specific changeset rather than a large pull request. -- Stephen Turner -Original Message- From: John Burwell [mailto:john.burw...@shapeblue.com]

[GitHub] cloudstack pull request: BUG-ID:CLOUDSTACK-7472: kvmclock fix for ...

2015-07-03 Thread bhaisaab
Github user bhaisaab commented on the pull request: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/557#issuecomment-118302519 LGTM, merging --- If your project is set up for it, you can reply to this email and have your reply appear on GitHub as well. If your project does not have this fea

[GitHub] cloudstack pull request: BUG-ID:CLOUDSTACK-7472: kvmclock fix for ...

2015-07-03 Thread asfgit
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[GitHub] cloudstack pull request: CLOUDSTACK-8603: Random list VM failures ...

2015-07-03 Thread bhaisaab
Github user bhaisaab commented on the pull request: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/551#issuecomment-118303081 LGTM, merging. --- If your project is set up for it, you can reply to this email and have your reply appear on GitHub as well. If your project does not have this fe

[GitHub] cloudstack pull request: CLOUDSTACK-8603: Random list VM failures ...

2015-07-03 Thread asfgit
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Re: [DISCUSS] LTS releases?

2015-07-03 Thread Remi Bergsma
Agree with the ideal world scenario :-) If we look at it from the other side: Why is it that people want to stay on older releases? From personal experience I know that in the beginning the 4.4 release wasn’t that stable. I upgraded production systems from 4.3.0 to 4.4.2 and it was painful. Th

Re: [PROPOSAL] Commit to master through PR only

2015-07-03 Thread Wilder Rodrigues
Hi John, If you look at the discrete operations wearing a hat of a Project Manager, you won’t care… neither would I. However, from a Software Engineer perspective, as much as the other people contributing with the Java code, I do care and it really makes reviewing the PR easier. As a consumer

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2015-07-03 Thread jenkins
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Re: [DISCUSS] Release principles for Apache CloudStack

2015-07-03 Thread Rajani Karuturi
I agree to the goal. No regressions can be achieved either by cherry-picks or merges. Both requires developers to agree to it and has equal probability to miss. The advantage in case of merge is, lets say you do a commit a1 to 4.5 branch and forget to merge to master. now, someone else did a2 and

[GitHub] cloudstack pull request: BUG-ID: CLOUDSTACK-8484 - Hosts without t...

2015-07-03 Thread sudhansu7
Github user sudhansu7 commented on the pull request: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/335#issuecomment-118331438 @remibergsma @karuturi I have added marvin test for this issue. Test result from local setup: Sudhansus-MAC:cloudstack sudhansu$ nosetests --with-m

Fairly serious system VM template issue.

2015-07-03 Thread Todd Hebert
Hello all, One of my co-workers and I just installed a Cloudstack 4.5 system. All seemed well until we started trying to import templates from another system we manage. The SSVM downloads the image, then check it using the "vhd-util" utility from XenServer. The error generated is "/bin/vhd-u

Re: SystemVM (kvm) : 3 different versions for the same CloudStack version (4.5.1)

2015-07-03 Thread Erik Weber
On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 5:25 PM, David Nalley wrote: > On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 4:52 AM, Erik Weber wrote: > > I'm up for it, delivering from an official ASF source gives it a sense of > > more authenticity (IMHO). > > > > Could we host the RPM/DEB repos there as well? > > > > Yes, that's the easy

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Wilder Rodrigues as a new PMC member of CloudStack

2015-07-03 Thread Daan Hoogland
finally someone to do the hard work. Go get'm Wilder! On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 5:51 PM, Marco Sinhoreli wrote: > Parabéns Wilder! > > Abs! > > Marco Sinhoreli > > Consultant Manager > > > > > > > > > Phone: +55 21 2586 6390 | Fax: +55 21 2586 6002 | Mobile: +55 21 99159 > 4713 | Mobile: +55 21 9827

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Karen Voung as a new PMC member of CloudStack

2015-07-03 Thread Daan Hoogland
Ah, someone to keep the cowboys in line. success Karen. On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 7:20 AM, Koushik Das wrote: > Congrats Karen! > > -Original Message- > From: John Burwell [mailto:john.burw...@shapeblue.com] > Sent: Thursday, 2 July 2015 23:45 > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > Cc: Karen Vuon

Re: IRC and Slack

2015-07-03 Thread Rohit Yadav
+0 Email and MLs are going to stay, so for IMs and chatting we can use one or more of such tools. I like Slack, the searchable history and whatnot, but I think realtime communication in general may face the same problems as with using IRC. Another issue with using tools like slack, hipchat etc.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Karen Voung as a new PMC member of CloudStack

2015-07-03 Thread Rohit Yadav
Congrats Karen! > On 02-Jul-2015, at 11:45 pm, John Burwell wrote: > > All, > > The Project Management Committee (PMC) for Apache CloudStack are pleased to > announce that Karen Voung (karenv) has accepted our invitation to join the > PMC. > > Please join me in congratulating her. > > On behalf

Re: [DISCUSS] Release principles for Apache CloudStack

2015-07-03 Thread Remi Bergsma
Hi Rajani, Happy to hear we agree on the goal and on the release process. Also great you want to join the RM effort! What remains is a discussion about the maintenance. I think the difference in our approaches, is that you say “commit to release branch, then bring it to master” and I say the o

Re: IRC and Slack

2015-07-03 Thread Erik Weber
On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 7:30 PM, Rohit Yadav wrote: > +0 > > Email and MLs are going to stay, so for IMs and chatting we can use one or > more of such tools. I like Slack, the searchable history and whatnot, but I > think realtime communication in general may face the same problems as with > using