RE: CloudStack 4.2 Quality Question

2013-08-20 Thread Animesh Chaturvedi
> -Original Message- > From: Animesh Chaturvedi [mailto:animesh.chaturv...@citrix.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 10:52 AM > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > Subject: RE: CloudStack 4.2 Quality Question > > > > > -Original Message- >

RE: CloudStack 4.2 Quality Question

2013-08-20 Thread Animesh Chaturvedi
> -Original Message- > From: David Nalley [mailto:da...@gnsa.us] > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 10:11 AM > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > Subject: Re: CloudStack 4.2 Quality Question > > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Alex Huang > wrote: > >> On t

Re: CloudStack 4.2 Quality Question

2013-08-20 Thread Mike Tutkowski
Yeah, I totally agree that if fixes need to be made in 4.2, then we should be putting fixes into 4.2. My only concern was the lack of time between the branch "settling down" and it going into the field. As long as we have a sufficient amount of time for me to perform some manual regression testing

Re: CloudStack 4.2 Quality Question

2013-08-20 Thread David Nalley
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Alex Huang wrote: >> On the rapid influx of fixes, I don't think that we should tell people to >> stop >> pushing fixes into 4.2, but we also want to minimize churn. >> Animesh and I were discussing this in person yesterday and I wonder if we >> should branch 4.2

RE: CloudStack 4.2 Quality Question

2013-08-20 Thread Alex Huang
> On the rapid influx of fixes, I don't think that we should tell people to stop > pushing fixes into 4.2, but we also want to minimize churn. > Animesh and I were discussing this in person yesterday and I wonder if we > should branch 4.2 temporarily (perhaps call it 4.2-forward) stabilize the 4.2

Re: CloudStack 4.2 Quality Question

2013-08-20 Thread David Nalley
I understand that >> this thread should be driven to consensus so I will not cut an RC today and >> wait for what community decides. >> >> There are few more logistics that I would like to discuss on how we should >> proceed after RC. I will start a different thread on that once

Re: CloudStack 4.2 Quality Question

2013-08-19 Thread Mike Tutkowski
so I will not cut an RC today and > wait for what community decides. > > There are few more logistics that I would like to discuss on how we should > proceed after RC. I will start a different thread on that once there is > community consensus on RC. > > Thanks > Animesh > &g

RE: CloudStack 4.2 Quality Question

2013-08-19 Thread Animesh Chaturvedi
PM > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > Subject: Re: CloudStack 4.2 Quality Question > > Also, just to clarify a bit, what I'm mainly wondering about is if we > can find a way to make sure our defects are not only trending downward > once we get to a certain point in the release,

Re: CloudStack 4.2 Quality Question

2013-08-19 Thread Mike Tutkowski
issues. >> >> >> > -Original Message- >> > From: Chiradeep Vittal [mailto:chiradeep.vit...@citrix.com] >> > Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 2:15 PM >> > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org >> > Subject: Re: CloudStack 4.2 Quality Question >

Re: CloudStack 4.2 Quality Question

2013-08-19 Thread Mike Tutkowski
gt; > > > -Original Message- > > From: Chiradeep Vittal [mailto:chiradeep.vit...@citrix.com] > > Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 2:15 PM > > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > > Subject: Re: CloudStack 4.2 Quality Question > > > > You can always loo

Re: CloudStack 4.2 Quality Question

2013-08-19 Thread Mike Tutkowski
Yeah, I agree it's been tapering down, but 150 or so in the last week doesn't really seem like a good place to end before building a RC. On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Chiradeep Vittal < chiradeep.vit...@citrix.com> wrote: > You can always look at the release dashboard > https://issues.apache.

RE: CloudStack 4.2 Quality Question

2013-08-19 Thread Animesh Chaturvedi
> Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 2:15 PM > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > Subject: Re: CloudStack 4.2 Quality Question > > You can always look at the release dashboard > https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/Dashboard.jspa?selectPageId=123209 > 42 > > This is exactly wha

Re: CloudStack 4.2 Quality Question

2013-08-19 Thread Chiradeep Vittal
You can always look at the release dashboard https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/Dashboard.jspa?selectPageId=12320942 This is exactly what has been happening Animesh has been sending this out fairly regularly. On 8/19/13 2:01 PM, "Mike Tutkowski" wrote: >I think we need some kind of process

Re: CloudStack 4.2 Quality Question

2013-08-19 Thread Mike Tutkowski
I think we need some kind of process in place to monitor the number of critical and blocker defects over the course of the release and make sure they're tapering off as we approach a RC build. My main comment about this release (this is the first CS release that I've participated in) is that I've

Re: CloudStack 4.2 Quality Question

2013-08-19 Thread Mike Tutkowski
"it is" meaning "premature" On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Mike Tutkowski < mike.tutkow...@solidfire.com> wrote: > I still believe it is, but the VMware "problem" was my fault - I must not > have had nonoss on b/c it works now. :) > > > On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Chip Childers > wrote:

Re: CloudStack 4.2 Quality Question

2013-08-19 Thread Mike Tutkowski
I still believe it is, but the VMware "problem" was my fault - I must not have had nonoss on b/c it works now. :) On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Chip Childers wrote: > On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 02:33:33PM -0600, Mike Tutkowski wrote: > > Looks like we have serious issues as of today in 4.2 (I've

Re: CloudStack 4.2 Quality Question

2013-08-19 Thread Chip Childers
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 02:33:33PM -0600, Mike Tutkowski wrote: > Looks like we have serious issues as of today in 4.2 (I've noticed > DevCloud2 not working and VMware support is broken) (aside from plenty of > blocker defects still to be completed). > > When do we start talking about how the 4.2

Re: CloudStack 4.2 Quality Question

2013-08-19 Thread Mike Tutkowski
Looks like we have serious issues as of today in 4.2 (I've noticed DevCloud2 not working and VMware support is broken) (aside from plenty of blocker defects still to be completed). When do we start talking about how the 4.2 RC build is not going to happen until the codebase calms down a bit? I hav

Re: CloudStack 4.2 Quality Question

2013-08-15 Thread Mike Tutkowski
Good idea, Daan. On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Daan Hoogland wrote: > Hugo has a local jenkins that runs as code gets checked in at apache, > You could have your SolidFire SAN base install be updated by a trigger > on commits in the central git at apache's, and then run your > regression test

Re: CloudStack 4.2 Quality Question

2013-08-15 Thread Daan Hoogland
Hugo has a local jenkins that runs as code gets checked in at apache, You could have your SolidFire SAN base install be updated by a trigger on commits in the central git at apache's, and then run your regression tests on it. Hope that helps, Daan On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 9:58 PM, Mike Tutkowski

Re: CloudStack 4.2 Quality Question

2013-08-15 Thread Mike Tutkowski
I plan to write automated system tests, but I don't think there's any way for me to check them in and get use out of them because they require a SolidFire SAN. In other words, I guess I will just have to keep them local (as in just something I run). So far, I have manual regression tests I run and

Re: CloudStack 4.2 Quality Question

2013-08-15 Thread Daan Hoogland
H Mike, Make sure you write plenty of unit tests for whatever methods you need for the features you are implementing. You can not exaggerate for a while. Coverage is behind quite a bit and I am not a betting man, so I bet there is going to be a 4.2.1. In short: I share your concern. Daan On Thu,

RE: CloudStack 4.2 Quality Question

2013-08-15 Thread Sudha Ponnaganti
Mike, I have similar concern as well. We have regression and BVT tests running daily on 4.2 branch locally besides manual validation of the defects and impacted areas. Even though we would not be able to catch all the issues, several regressions were caught and you can see the defects by usi