Re: ICLA for contributors

2016-06-13 Thread Ron Wheeler
It is the responsibility of the committer to get a CCLA signed by their employer if they are being paid for the work being done or have a clause in their employment contract that give ownership to the employer of all of the work that they do during their term of employment. This is impossible

Re: ICLA for contributors

2016-06-13 Thread David Nalley
CCLAs are completely optional - and no one (AFAIK) checks the employer of new committers as a general rule. (Plus, employers change) ICLAs are required for committers - and they explicitly say among other things that you won't commit things for which the ASF wouldn't have the right to redistribute

Re: ICLA for contributors

2016-06-10 Thread John Burwell
Ron, As part of committer on-boarding, the PMC requires each committer candidate have an ASF ICLA in place and verifies the CCLA of their employer. Thanks, -John > john.burw...@shapeblue.com  www.shapeblue.com 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London VA WC2N 4HSUK @shapeblue On Jun 10, 2016,

Re: ICLA for contributors

2016-06-10 Thread Ron Wheeler
That is correct from my reading of the Apache page as well. I think that your definition of committer and contributor is identical to Apache's. Ron On 09/06/2016 3:57 PM, John Burwell wrote: All, I believe Pierre-Luc’s explanation is correct, and that we may have slightly different definit

Re: ICLA for contributors

2016-06-10 Thread Ron Wheeler
You are right. The paragraph that I quoted from Apache is pretty clear about that. They do recommend getting ICLAs from everyone but as you said, it is not required. The CCLA is important and I would hope that the main corporate supporters are all covered. Ron On 09/06/2016 1:46 PM, Pierre

Re: ICLA for contributors

2016-06-09 Thread John Burwell
All, I believe Pierre-Luc’s explanation is correct, and that we may have slightly different definitions of contributor and committer. Generally, we define a contributor, we are referring to anyone (committer, PMC member, any person in the world) who contributes code, documentation, etc to the

Re: ICLA for contributors

2016-06-09 Thread Pierre-Luc Dion
Hi Ron, As far as I know, ICLA and CCLA is required for commiters, but not required for non-commiters contributors. I don't know about all details, someone else in the ML might have more details about this. For sure, you can be a contributor without submitting code as a anyone in this ML is consid

ICLA for contributors

2016-06-09 Thread Ron Wheeler
As part of a discussion during last weeks meeting in Mpntreal, the question was raised about the requirement to have an Individual Contributor License Agreement (ICLA) for each contributor. http://www.apache.org/licenses/ describes the requirements as follows: "The ASF desires that all contrib