Thanks for the great summary Animesh. Agree with Chip. Great thread. :)
On 26 April 2013 01:11, Chip Childers wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 05:02:05PM -0700, Animesh Chaturvedi wrote:
> > Let me attempt to summarize this thread, if I missed any glaring points
> feel free to bring them up
> >
On 26 April 2013 05:32, Animesh Chaturvedi
wrote:
> Let me attempt to summarize this thread, if I missed any glaring points feel
> free to bring them up
>
> 4 months:
> Proponents (9): Chip, Alex, David, Noah, Hugo, Joe, Sebastian, Prasanna,
> Rohit
> Reasoning:
> * We have not given prop
> -Original Message-
> From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.child...@sungard.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 5:11 PM
> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] ACS Release 4 month v/s 6 month
>
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 05:02:05PM -0700, Animesh Chat
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 05:02:05PM -0700, Animesh Chaturvedi wrote:
> Let me attempt to summarize this thread, if I missed any glaring points feel
> free to bring them up
>
> 4 months:
> Proponents (9): Chip, Alex, David, Noah, Hugo, Joe, Sebastian, Prasanna,
> Rohit
> Reasoning:
> * We hav
s etc. on Monday
Thanks
Animesh
> -Original Message-
> From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.child...@sungard.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 9:24 AM
> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] ACS Release 4 month v/s 6 month
>
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2013
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 12:22:58PM +0100, Noah Slater wrote:
> I see where David is coming from.
>
> The longer you leave a release branch, the harder it becomes to QA, the
> harder it comes to test, and the harder it becomes to release. As has been
> mentioned already, you can think of this as a
ly
> not beneficial to this community.
>
> --Alex
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Animesh Chaturvedi [mailto:animesh.chaturv...@citrix.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 2:50 AM
> > To: cloudstack-...@incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: [DISCUSS] ACS
age-
> From: Animesh Chaturvedi [mailto:animesh.chaturv...@citrix.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 2:50 AM
> To: cloudstack-...@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: [DISCUSS] ACS Release 4 month v/s 6 month
>
> Folks
>
> We started discussing 4 month v/s 6 month release cyc
Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] ACS Release 4 month v/s 6 month
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> From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.child...@sungard.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 11:19 AM
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> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] ACS Release 4 month v/s 6 month
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> On Tu
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>
>
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 10:55:50AM -0700, Will Chan wrote:
> Again, I am not disputing that more features will make it in given Dave's
> argument. In fact, I'm not really that keen on using the fixed cost of
> release mgmt. for the reason of the move as well. Heck, I'm not even sure a
> 6 mon
ier.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Hugo
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Sebastien Goasguen [mailto:run...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 9:31 AM
> > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> > Cc: cloudstack-...@incubator.apache.org; Chip Child
nt: Monday, April 22, 2013 7:52 PM
> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> Cc: cloudstack-...@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] ACS Release 4 month v/s 6 month
>
> On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 5:19 PM, Animesh Chaturvedi
> wrote:
> > Folks
> >
> > We started discussing 4 mont
The problem (I am beginning to realize) with extending the release is
the temptation to cram in more features. May be use the collab
conference to improve release management aspects. What we did right
in 4.1, what went wrong, how to better plan 5.0. And that can happen
with a 4 or 6 month cycle. I
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013, at 04:19 PM, Animesh Chaturvedi wrote:
> - Joe agrees partly in release overhead being significant for major
> release
This is only a partial summary of what I've said before. Yes, I think
there's overhead in a release that's really non-flexible.
However, we've really not
> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> Cc: cloudstack-...@incubator.apache.org; Chip Childers
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] ACS Release 4 month v/s 6 month
>
>
> On Apr 23, 2013, at 1:32 AM, Nitin Mehta wrote:
>
> > David - You have some compelling logic :) Given the debate about 4
> > m
On Apr 23, 2013, at 1:32 AM, Nitin Mehta wrote:
> David - You have some compelling logic :)
> Given the debate about 4 month to 6 month, lets make an educated decision
>
> First - Lets hear from the "release managers" as to what they have to say
> about the last 2 releases. What went well and w
David - You have some compelling logic :)
Given the debate about 4 month to 6 month, lets make an educated decision
First - Lets hear from the "release managers" as to what they have to say
about the last 2 releases. What went well and what didn't. Chip - ?
Second - If we plan to do a 6 month rele
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: Animesh Chaturvedi [mailto:animesh.chaturv...@citrix.com]
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Folks
We started discussing 4 month v/s 6 month release cycle in a another thread
+1, on the automation test. When will we have good automation test?
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> From: David Nalley [mailto:da...@gnsa.us]
> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 7:52 PM
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On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 5:19 PM, Animesh Chaturvedi
wrote:
> Folks
>
> We started discussing 4 month v/s 6 month release cycle in a another thread
> [1]. Since the subject of that thread was different, community may not have
> participated in this important discussion fully. I am are bringing t
cycle.
>
>Regards
>Ilya
>
>
>
> Original message
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>Date:
>To: cloudstack-...@incubator.apache.org
>Subject: [DISCUSS] ACS Release 4 month v/s 6 month
>
>
>Folks
>
>We started discussing 4 month v/s 6 month releas
gards
Ilya
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From: Animesh Chaturvedi
Date:
To: cloudstack-...@incubator.apache.org
Subject: [DISCUSS] ACS Release 4 month v/s 6 month
Folks
We started discussing 4 month v/s 6 month release cycle in a another thread
[1]. Since the subject of that thread was different,
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>> Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] ACS Release 4 month v/s 6 month
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>> > From: Animesh Chaturvedi [mailto:animesh
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> Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] ACS Release 4 month v/s 6 month
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> > -Original Message-
> > From: Animesh Chaturvedi [mailto:animesh.chaturv...@citrix.com]
> > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 2:20 PM
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> &
> -Original Message-
> From: Animesh Chaturvedi [mailto:animesh.chaturv...@citrix.com]
> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 2:20 PM
> To: cloudstack-...@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: [DISCUSS] ACS Release 4 month v/s 6 month
>
> Folks
>
> We started discussing
Folks
We started discussing 4 month v/s 6 month release cycle in a another thread
[1]. Since the subject of that thread was different, community may not have
participated in this important discussion fully. I am are bringing this
discussion to its own thread. Here is the summary so far please
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