Re: [ACS44][DISCUSS] alpha releases for testing

2014-04-25 Thread Daan Hoogland
On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 11:56 PM, ilya musayev wrote: > I'm not saying this should not happen - its certainly helpful, but judging > by general trend, people tend not to use stable release until the patch 1 > comes out. This is industry standard practice. Everyone waits for update 1. so you are sa

Re: [ACS44][DISCUSS] alpha releases for testing

2014-04-25 Thread ilya musayev
I'm not saying this should not happen - its certainly helpful, but judging by general trend, people tend not to use stable release until the patch 1 comes out. This is industry standard practice. Everyone waits for update 1. So while we can use it for testing purposes as dev, i'd not expect hi

Re: [ACS44][DISCUSS] alpha releases for testing

2014-04-25 Thread Daan Hoogland
or just RC1 On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 11:45 PM, Daan Hoogland wrote: > On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 11:44 PM, Alex Hitchins wrote: >> confusing? > > > so call it beta > > -- > Daan -- Daan

Re: [ACS44][DISCUSS] alpha releases for testing

2014-04-25 Thread Daan Hoogland
On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 11:44 PM, Alex Hitchins wrote: > confusing? so call it beta -- Daan

RE: [ACS44][DISCUSS] alpha releases for testing

2014-04-25 Thread Alex Hitchins
[mailto:mike.tutkow...@solidfire.com] Sent: 25 April 2014 22:03 To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: Re: [ACS44][DISCUSS] alpha releases for testing It might be interesting to put out RC1 as an Alpha...even if we spin it up several times (we would still just release only the first RC as an Alpha and

Re: [ACS44][DISCUSS] alpha releases for testing

2014-04-25 Thread Mike Tutkowski
It might be interesting to put out RC1 as an Alpha...even if we spin it up several times (we would still just release only the first RC as an Alpha and not follow up with other RCs for Alpha purposes). Most of the users probably wouldn't hit the issues we find with the RCs right away anyways, so t

Re: [ACS44][DISCUSS] alpha releases for testing

2014-04-25 Thread Daan Hoogland
Yes, I must admit I have a secondary objectiive. It will force me to investigate the release procedure before the moment supreme. I don't know to much about it yet. On the other hand; Publising it on users@ might give some people with time at hand or stakes in the next relese to test it. Anything t

Re: [ACS44][DISCUSS] alpha releases for testing

2014-04-25 Thread Mike Tutkowski
So, are you thinking we'd reach a certain point in the dev/test cycle, then notify people on users@ that they can download and test the official Alpha release of version x.y? On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Daan Hoogland wrote: > It would be a case of 'here is something, please put your teeth i

Re: [ACS44][DISCUSS] alpha releases for testing

2014-04-25 Thread Daan Hoogland
It would be a case of 'here is something, please put your teeth in it' On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 7:14 PM, Mike Tutkowski wrote: > Hi Daan, > > I'm all for earlier testing, of course, but can you clarify how this alpha > testing would fit into our schedule? > > Thanks! > > > On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at

Re: [ACS44][DISCUSS] alpha releases for testing

2014-04-25 Thread Mike Tutkowski
Hi Daan, I'm all for earlier testing, of course, but can you clarify how this alpha testing would fit into our schedule? Thanks! On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 6:01 AM, Daan Hoogland wrote: > ls, > > to facilitate and encourage testing, would it be a good idea to do > alpha releases of the 4.4 branch

[ACS44][DISCUSS] alpha releases for testing

2014-04-25 Thread Daan Hoogland
ls, to facilitate and encourage testing, would it be a good idea to do alpha releases of the 4.4 branche early? the idea is that more of the last minute testing we had with 4.3 will happen earlier, thus relieving both the release manager and the citrix QA department of the last minute pressure. -