Let’s get back on topic.
Jonathan, in your opening email you stated that, in your view, the 2 main areas
of tradeoff were:
> 1. Is it worth giving up local latencies to get full global consistency?
Now we’ve established that we don’t need to give up local latencies with
Accord, which leaves:
Sorry, I just wanted to view the JIRA ticket and comment
Thanks!
Derek
On Mon, Oct 11, 2021, 7:09 PM Maulin Vasavada
wrote:
> Hi Derek
>
> I am not sure what you are trying to do. Are you trying to delete the CEP
> page OR trying to see/edit the JIRA ticket? Anybody else have a clue what
> Der
On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 5:11 PM bened...@apache.org
wrote:
> If we want to fully unpack this particular point, as far as I can tell
> claiming ANSI SQL would indeed require interactive transactions in which
> arbitrary conditional work may be performed by a client within a
> transaction in respon
Hi Derek
I am not sure what you are trying to do. Are you trying to delete the CEP
page OR trying to see/edit the JIRA ticket? Anybody else have a clue what
Derek is running into?
Thanks
Maulin
On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 2:34 PM Derek Chen-Becker
wrote:
> Hi Maulin,
>
> I'm getting a permission d
Hi Jonathan,
I would appreciate it if you would respond to all of my email(s), as (at your
insistence) I spend a great deal of time responding to you. Cherry-picking
makes these conversations very difficult.
If we want to fully unpack this particular point, as far as I can tell claiming
ANSI S
+1
On 10/11/21 4:47 AM, Stefan Miklosovic wrote:
Hi list,
based on the discussion thread about CEP-16 (1), I would like to have
a vote on that.
It seems to me CEP-16 is so straightforward there is more or less
nothing to discuss in more depth as the feedback it gathered was
mostly formal and n
Hi Maulin,
I'm getting a permission denied error when I try to access the ticket. What
do I need to do to get access?
Thanks,
Derek
On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 1:34 PM Maulin Vasavada
wrote:
> Changing the subject for this discussion with the JIRA ticket now.
>
> Dinesh, when you say PEM and JKS
Hi Benedict,
Yes, interactive transactions are a necessary part of SQL support (as
opposed to a tiny subset of SQL that matches CQL semantics, I don't know
any other way to make sense of your claim that "SQL does not necessitate
support for interactive transactions").
I still don't understand ho
On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 12:31 PM Blake Eggleston
wrote:
> > Come on Blake, you have all been developing software long enough to know
> > that "there's nothing about Accord that prevents this" is close to
> > meaningless.
> >
> > If it's so easy to address an overwhelmingly popular use case, then
Changing the subject for this discussion with the JIRA ticket now.
Dinesh, when you say PEM and JKS formats simultaneously, do you mean that
for client vs internnode ssl we should be able to use different formats OR
beyond that within particular encryption options have a combination - PEM
based pr
Back to Mondays. We'll be covering about a week and a half here to get
ourselves back to a biweekly cadence.
[New contributors getting started]
As a new contributor you have a couple great options for getting started:
Failing tests, and what we call "lhf" (low hanging fruit).
Query for failing te
Thanks all for your responses. So I'll give back the CEP number (if I can).
For Dinesh's comment, I think we can take up in the DISCUSS thread for the
JIRA ticket that I'll start. I will make sure I understand his comment and
resolve it correctly.
Thanks
Maulin
On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 8:47 AM Di
+1 nb
On 10/11/21, 3:51 AM, "Stefan Miklosovic"
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Hi list,
based on the discussion thread about CEP-16
> Come on Blake, you have all been developing software long enough to know
> that "there's nothing about Accord that prevents this" is close to
> meaningless.
>
> If it's so easy to address an overwhelmingly popular use case, then let's
> add it to the initial work.
This is moving the goal posts
+1
> On Oct 11, 2021, at 2:50 AM, Stefan Miklosovic
> wrote:
>
> Hi list,
>
> based on the discussion thread about CEP-16 (1), I would like to have
> a vote on that.
>
> It seems to me CEP-16 is so straightforward there is more or less
> nothing to discuss in more depth as the feedback it ga
Lacking the most basic support for multi-partition transactions is a serious
handicap. The CEP offers a concrete solution.
It’s possible to solve multi-partition transactions in a myriad of other ways,
I’m sure, but CEP-15 is what’s on offer for Cassandra at the moment, and I’m
not seeing any a
This could be just an enhancement jira. No need for a CEP.
I think this would be a fine addition to Cassandra. Please ensure that we can
support both PEM as well as the current JKS simultaneously.
Dinesh
> On Oct 11, 2021, at 3:06 AM, Stefan Miklosovic
> wrote:
>
> I agree with Benedict, t
Thanks for flagging that, Alex. Here it is without trying to include the
inline table:
*After calling several times for a broader discussion of goals and
tradeoffs around transaction management in the CEP-15 thread, I’ve put
together a short analysis to kick that off.Here is a
I realise this is not contributing to this discussion, but this email is
very difficult to read because it seems like something has happened with
formatting. For me it gets displayed as a single paragraph with no line
breaks.
There seems to be some overlap between the image uploaded to imgur and t
On Sat, Oct 9, 2021 at 11:23 PM Blake Eggleston
wrote:
> 1. Is it worth giving up local latencies to get full global consistency?
> Most LWT use cases use
> LOCAL_SERIAL.
>
> This isn’t a tradeoff that needs to be made. There’s nothing about Accord
> that prevents performing consensus in one DC a
For those who missed it, my talk discussing this CEP at ApacheCon is now
available to view: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAE7E-QEAvk
From: Oleksandr Petrov
Date: Monday, 11 October 2021 at 10:11
To: dev
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] CEP-15: General Purpose Transactions
> I support this proposal.
On Sat, Oct 9, 2021 at 7:20 PM Jeff Jirsa wrote:
> Most LWT use cases use LOCAL_SERIAL because the difference in latency is
> huge today (given the 4x RTTs) AND almost none of the users actually
> understand how cassandra replication or consistency works, so they
> misunderstand the guarantees pr
+1
On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 4:50 AM Stefan Miklosovic
wrote:
>
> Hi list,
>
> based on the discussion thread about CEP-16 (1), I would like to have
> a vote on that.
>
> It seems to me CEP-16 is so straightforward there is more or less
> nothing to discuss in more depth as the feedback it gathered
+1 nb
> On Oct 11, 2021, at 6:16 AM, Ekaterina Dimitrova
> wrote:
>
> +1
>
>> On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 at 6:54, Benjamin Lerer wrote:
>>
>> +1
>>
>> Le lun. 11 oct. 2021 à 11:50, Stefan Miklosovic <
>> stefan.mikloso...@instaclustr.com> a écrit :
>>
>>> Hi list,
>>>
>>> based on the discussio
+1
On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 at 6:54, Benjamin Lerer wrote:
> +1
>
> Le lun. 11 oct. 2021 à 11:50, Stefan Miklosovic <
> stefan.mikloso...@instaclustr.com> a écrit :
>
> > Hi list,
> >
> > based on the discussion thread about CEP-16 (1), I would like to have
> > a vote on that.
> >
> > It seems to me
+1
Le lun. 11 oct. 2021 à 11:50, Stefan Miklosovic <
stefan.mikloso...@instaclustr.com> a écrit :
> Hi list,
>
> based on the discussion thread about CEP-16 (1), I would like to have
> a vote on that.
>
> It seems to me CEP-16 is so straightforward there is more or less
> nothing to discuss in mo
I agree with Benedict, this does not need to have its own CEP.
In the "approach" section to-be-discussed CEP-17, I clearly see this
is building on top of what is already in so I do not think this needs
yet another CEP to materialize.
Regards
On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 at 12:00, bened...@apache.org wro
Hi Maulin,
This sounds fine to me, though I don’t consider myself well versed in these
system details.
I have a meta comment though: I think this could easily have been a Jira with a
DISCUSS thread brought to the list. The CEP process is (in my opinion) for
complex decisions that needs broad c
Hi list,
based on the discussion thread about CEP-16 (1), I would like to have
a vote on that.
It seems to me CEP-16 is so straightforward there is more or less
nothing to discuss in more depth as the feedback it gathered was
mostly formal and nobody has had any objections so far having the
discu
> I support this proposal. From what I can understand, this proposal moves
us towards having the building blocks we need to correctly deliver some of
the most often requested features in Cassandra.
Same here. I also support this proposal and believe it opens up many new
opportunities (while not l
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