Re: How is Cassandra being used?

2011-11-16 Thread Jeremiah Jordan
+1 for a separate jar (and a second download link that doesn't include this jar, though I would make the primary link include it with BIG BOLD PRINT saying it is in there) +1 for a config option to turn off auto-post (defaulted on in the download that has the jar) +1 for a nodetool command to du

Re: How is Cassandra being used?

2011-11-16 Thread Jeremy Hanna
Sounds like it would be best if it were in a separate jar for people? On Nov 16, 2011, at 4:58 PM, Bill wrote: > > Thoughts? > > > > We'll turn this off, and would possibly patch it out of the code. That's not > to say it wouldn't be useful to others. > > Bill > > > On 15/11/11 23:23, Jonath

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Re: How is Cassandra being used?

2011-11-16 Thread Bill
> Thoughts? > We'll turn this off, and would possibly patch it out of the code. That's not to say it wouldn't be useful to others. Bill On 15/11/11 23:23, Jonathan Ellis wrote: I started a "users survey" thread over on the users list (replies are still trickling in), but as useful as that i

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 1.0.3 (take 2)

2011-11-16 Thread Jonathan Ellis
I'm +1 on either these artifacts as is, or these artifacts with thrift rebuilt to reflect the correct api version On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 7:46 AM, Eric Evans wrote: > On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 1:40 AM, Sylvain Lebresne > wrote: >> So, CASSANDRA-3491 and CASSANDRA-3492 got in the way of the first

Re: How is Cassandra being used?

2011-11-16 Thread Ryan King
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Jonathan Ellis wrote: > Sounds like the consensus is that if this is a good idea at all, it > needs to be opt-in.  Like I said earlier, I can live with that. In addition, if you want to get data from large companies that manage their own datacenters, there needs

Re: How is Cassandra being used?

2011-11-16 Thread Jonathan Ellis
Sounds like the consensus is that if this is a good idea at all, it needs to be opt-in. Like I said earlier, I can live with that. On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Jake Luciani wrote: > Having worked at places where you get fired if software *attempts* to > contact outside world I understand th

Re: How is Cassandra being used?

2011-11-16 Thread Eric Evans
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Jonathan Ellis wrote: > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Eric Evans wrote: >> There probably is a rather large group of "shadow" users whose >> (valuable?) input doesn't make it to the list or bug tracker.  It >> sounds like Gary is questioning whether we should

Re: hintedhandoff in 1.0.3

2011-11-16 Thread Jonathan Ellis
Keys in HCF are nodes it has hints for. You can try forcing delivery to the node that still has hints. It's also possible that new hints were created (because that node timed out some writes) during the delivery of the first ones. On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 3:42 AM, Radim Kolar wrote: > Same probl

Re: How is Cassandra being used?

2011-11-16 Thread Jonathan Ellis
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Eric Evans wrote: > There probably is a rather large group of "shadow" users whose > (valuable?) input doesn't make it to the list or bug tracker.  It > sounds like Gary is questioning whether we should be giving these > people a voice.  Assuming I have that right

Re: How is Cassandra being used?

2011-11-16 Thread Eric Evans
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Jonathan Ellis wrote: > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 8:46 AM, Gary Dusbabek wrote: >> Here is what should determine where energy is spent:  if enough people >> are willing to expend the effort to voice their concerns about feature >> X in JIRA and on the mailing list,

Re: How is Cassandra being used?

2011-11-16 Thread Joe Stein
This brings up a nice possibility also for businesses to have Cassandra outsourced monitoring service(s)/solutions(s) from ring infrastructure perspective. Any chance the URL Cassandra posts information too can be configurable also? Maybe even an abstract class so others can extend it and the fir

Re: How is Cassandra being used?

2011-11-16 Thread Jake Luciani
Having worked at places where you get fired if software *attempts* to contact outside world I understand the concerns. However, if it's opt-in via config file and requires a restart then there is no reason why it should be a concern. On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 3:29 AM, Zhu Han wrote: > On Wed, No

Re: How is Cassandra being used?

2011-11-16 Thread Jonathan Ellis
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 8:46 AM, Gary Dusbabek wrote: > Here is what should determine where energy is spent:  if enough people > are willing to expend the effort to voice their concerns about feature > X in JIRA and on the mailing list, and there are people willing to do > the technical work, and

Re: How is Cassandra being used?

2011-11-16 Thread Gary Dusbabek
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 17:23, Jonathan Ellis wrote: > I started a "users survey" thread over on the users list (replies are > still trickling in), but as useful as that is, I'd like to get > feedback that is more quantitative and with a broader base.  This will > let us prioritize our development

Re: How is Cassandra being used?

2011-11-16 Thread Jonathan Ellis
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Eric Evans wrote: > How much value do you think there is from a subset sent from a > self-selecting group? A fair amount. [1] [2] [1] http://amp.cs.berkeley.edu/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/The-Case-for-Evaluating-MapReduce-Performance-Using-Workload-Suites.pdf [2

Re: How is Cassandra being used?

2011-11-16 Thread Eric Evans
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Jonathan Ellis wrote: > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 8:11 AM, Brian O'Neill wrote: >> Maybe a good old fashioned web form that allows companies to submit their >> usage scenarios might accomplish the same goal? > > I suppose we could dump the information to a file some

Re: How is Cassandra being used?

2011-11-16 Thread Jonathan Ellis
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 8:11 AM, Brian O'Neill wrote: > Maybe a good old fashioned web form that allows companies to submit their > usage scenarios might accomplish the same goal? I suppose we could dump the information to a file somewhere as a fallback way to submit, but I wouldn't want to make

Re: How is Cassandra being used?

2011-11-16 Thread Brian O'Neill
Lively thread... +1 opt-in +1 in separate module I'll just substantiate Rick Shaw's comments. If this is on by default, I can see it making its way into production at a large corporation, at which time the traffic would sound an alarm as suspicious activity, which would immediately get the serve

Re: How is Cassandra being used?

2011-11-16 Thread Eric Evans
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 2:01 AM, Jonathan Ellis wrote: > On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 7:02 PM, Eric Evans wrote: >> I think this is potentially quite dangerous; There are a lot people >> who get very twitchy at the idea of software that Phones Home.  I've >> seen this so many times, and in all cases i

AW: How is Cassandra being used?

2011-11-16 Thread Roland Gude
I think it is a very good idea to gather such information and to make it easy for the users who want to or don't care and to consider the "twitchiness" as well. How about putting the reporting code in a separate module/jar and report statistics if the jar is there and don’t if it is not (similar

Re: How is Cassandra being used?

2011-11-16 Thread Dave Brosius
+1 for an opt-in approach. To get better opt-in rates perhaps prompt for it on start (once) rather than hope folks find it buried in the yaml Eric Evans wrote: >On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 11:23 PM, Jonathan Ellis wrote: >> I started a "users survey" thread over on the users list (replies are >> s

Re: How is Cassandra being used?

2011-11-16 Thread Dave Brosius
On 11/15/2011 09:01 PM, Jonathan Ellis wrote: On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 7:02 PM, Eric Evans wrote: I think this is potentially quite dangerous; There are a lot people who get very twitchy at the idea of software that Phones Home. I've seen this so many times, and in all cases it was for software

Re: How is Cassandra being used?

2011-11-16 Thread Peter Tillotson
I've read through the thread and have a few comments and and idea.  1) I can understand a preference for opt in 2) As a user I would have probably opted in every time I hit a performance issue 3) Opt in may well be skewed to poorer use cases or hardware issues 4) There is a trust gap that needs to

Re: How is Cassandra being used?

2011-11-16 Thread Zhu Han
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Norman Maurer wrote: > 2011/11/16 Jonathan Ellis : > > I started a "users survey" thread over on the users list (replies are > > still trickling in), but as useful as that is, I'd like to get > > feedback that is more quantitative and with a broader base. This wi