Re: Question about mutability

2016-02-25 Thread Todd Lipcon
On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 12:05 PM, Henry Robinson wrote: > The way I'm thinking about is that someone upstream makes a Kudu-specific > request, but as part of that request provides a descriptor of a shared > ring-buffer. Reading Arrow batches from and writing to that buffer is part > of a simple st

Re: Question about mutability

2016-02-25 Thread Henry Robinson
reed, > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > I thought the whole purpose was to share the memory space > (using > >> >> > possibly > >> >> > > > unsafe operations like ByteBuffers) so that it could be > directly > >> >> shared > >> >

Re: Question about mutability

2016-02-25 Thread Todd Lipcon
gt; > > datastore that one application can expose and share with others >> (e.g. >> >> > In >> >> > > > memory structure is constructed from a series of parquet files, >> >> > somehow, >> >> > > > then Spark pulls it i

Re: Question about mutability

2016-02-25 Thread Henry Robinson
datastore that one application can expose and share with others > (e.g. > >> > In > >> > > > memory structure is constructed from a series of parquet files, > >> > somehow, > >> > > > then Spark pulls it in, does some computations, exposes a d

Re: Question about mutability

2016-02-25 Thread Todd Lipcon
mputations, exposes a data set, >> > > > etc...). >> > > > >> > > > If you are leaving the allocation of the memory to the applications >> and >> > > > underneath the memory is being allocated using direct bytebuffers, I >> > > ca

Re: Question about mutability

2016-02-25 Thread Wes McKinney
tally hard- especially if the > > > > applications themselves are worried about exposing their own memory > > > spaces. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Andrew Brust < > > > > andrew.br...@bluebadgein

Re: Question about mutability

2016-02-24 Thread Leif Walsh
4, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Andrew Brust < > > > andrew.br...@bluebadgeinsights.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Hmm...that's not exactly how Jaques described things to me when he > > > briefed > > > > me on Arrow ahead of the announcement. > > >

Re: Question about mutability

2016-02-24 Thread Corey Nolet
..@bluebadgeinsights.com> wrote: > > > > > Hmm...that's not exactly how Jaques described things to me when he > > briefed > > > me on Arrow ahead of the announcement. > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Zhe Zhang [mailto:z...@apa

Re: Question about mutability

2016-02-24 Thread Zhe Zhang
on Arrow ahead of the announcement. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Zhe Zhang [mailto:z...@apache.org] > > Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 2:08 PM > > To: dev@arrow.apache.org > > Subject: Re: Question about mutability > > > > I don&#x

Re: Question about mutability

2016-02-24 Thread Jacques Nadeau
> > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 11:17 AM, Andrew Brust < > > andrew.br...@bluebadgeinsights.com> wrote: > > > > > Hmm...that's not exactly how Jaques described things to me when he > > briefed > > > me on Arrow ahead

RE: Question about mutability

2016-02-24 Thread Andrew Brust
ch taking turns working with the data, in a cumulative fashion. -Original Message- From: Michael D. Coon [mailto:mdco...@yahoo.com.INVALID] Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 2:21 PM To: dev@arrow.apache.org Subject: Re: Question about mutability I had the same understanding as Corey

Re: Question about mutability

2016-02-24 Thread Corey Nolet
x27;s not exactly how Jaques described things to me when he > briefed > > me on Arrow ahead of the announcement. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Zhe Zhang [mailto:z...@apache.org] > > Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 2:08 PM > > To: dev@arrow.apac

Re: Question about mutability

2016-02-24 Thread Corey Nolet
ust < andrew.br...@bluebadgeinsights.com> wrote: > Hmm...that's not exactly how Jaques described things to me when he briefed > me on Arrow ahead of the announcement. > > -Original Message- > From: Zhe Zhang [mailto:z...@apache.org] > Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 2:08 PM > T

Re: Question about mutability

2016-02-24 Thread Jacques Nadeau
efed > me on Arrow ahead of the announcement. > > -Original Message- > From: Zhe Zhang [mailto:z...@apache.org] > Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 2:08 PM > To: dev@arrow.apache.org > Subject: Re: Question about mutability > > I don't think one application/

Re: Question about mutability

2016-02-24 Thread Zhe Zhang
rote: > > > Hmm...that's not exactly how Jaques described things to me when he > briefed me on Arrow ahead of the announcement. > > -Original Message- > From: Zhe Zhang [mailto:z...@apache.org] > Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 2:08 PM > To: dev@arrow.apach

Re: Question about mutability

2016-02-24 Thread Michael D. Coon
rg Subject: Re: Question about mutability I don't think one application/process's memory space will be made available to other applications/processes. It's fundamentally hard for processes to share their address spaces. IIUC, with Arrow, when application A shares data with applicat

RE: Question about mutability

2016-02-24 Thread Andrew Brust
Hmm...that's not exactly how Jaques described things to me when he briefed me on Arrow ahead of the announcement. -Original Message- From: Zhe Zhang [mailto:z...@apache.org] Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 2:08 PM To: dev@arrow.apache.org Subject: Re: Question about mutabili

Re: Question about mutability

2016-02-24 Thread Zhe Zhang
I don't think one application/process's memory space will be made available to other applications/processes. It's fundamentally hard for processes to share their address spaces. IIUC, with Arrow, when application A shares data with application B, the data is still duplicated in the memory spaces o