Re: auto download of antlibs

2007-05-10 Thread Xavier Hanin
On 5/10/07, Steve Loughran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Stephen McConnell wrote: > > It seems that there may be two distinct subjects in this thread: > > a) introduction of policy that restricts dynamic resolution of > resource to those available via a local file protocol (refer > Xav

Re: auto download of antlibs

2007-05-10 Thread Steve Loughran
Stephen McConnell wrote: It seems that there may be two distinct subjects in this thread: a) introduction of policy that restricts dynamic resolution of resource to those available via a local file protocol (refer Xavier's comments "By offline I mean with no network access") b

Re: auto download of antlibs

2007-05-10 Thread Xavier Hanin
On 5/10/07, Steve Loughran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Xavier Hanin wrote: > On 5/9/07, Steve Loughran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: teresting. >> >> Maybe every repository in ivyconf.xml would be marked as offline, >> meaning they are available when there is no network.When you run ant (or >> ivy)

RE: auto download of antlibs

2007-05-10 Thread Stephen McConnell
> -Original Message- > From: Steve Loughran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, 10 May 2007 8:20 PM > To: Ant Developers List > Subject: Re: auto download of antlibs > > Xavier Hanin wrote: > > On 5/9/07, Steve Loughran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr

Re: auto download of antlibs

2007-05-10 Thread Steve Loughran
Xavier Hanin wrote: On 5/9/07, Steve Loughran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: teresting. Maybe every repository in ivyconf.xml would be marked as offline, meaning they are available when there is no network.When you run ant (or ivy) with -offline, only offline repositories would be used. What do

Re: auto download of antlibs

2007-05-09 Thread Xavier Hanin
On 5/9/07, Steve Loughran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Xavier Hanin wrote: > On 5/8/07, Steve Loughran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Xavier Hanin wrote: >> > On 5/7/07, Steve Loughran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> hooking in to a named ivy conf: >> >> >> >> >> > And wher is the version info

Re: auto download of antlibs

2007-05-09 Thread Xavier Hanin
riday, 4 May 2007 5:56 PM >> > To: Ant Developers List >> > Subject: Re: auto download of antlibs >> > >> > On 5/4/07, Steve Loughran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > >> > > One thing I've been thinking of this week is how could we work w

Re: auto download of antlibs

2007-05-09 Thread Steve Loughran
Stefan Bodewig wrote: On Mon, 07 May 2007, Steve Loughran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You'd have to include a version. One thing you could do is lib:xmlns="antlib://org/example/something#2.13" ...but that would place the version into the namespace, which is too early to read in/expand ant proper

Re: auto download of antlibs

2007-05-09 Thread Steve Loughran
Xavier Hanin wrote: On 5/8/07, Steve Loughran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Xavier Hanin wrote: > On 5/7/07, Steve Loughran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> hooking in to a named ivy conf: >> >> > And wher is the version information? And how do we map this package > name to an organization/module na

Re: auto download of antlibs

2007-05-09 Thread Steve Loughran
Xavier Hanin wrote: On 5/7/07, Stephen McConnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -Original Message- > From: Xavier Hanin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, 4 May 2007 5:56 PM > To: Ant Developers List > Subject: Re: auto download of antlibs > > On 5/4

Re: auto download of antlibs

2007-05-08 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On Mon, 07 May 2007, Steve Loughran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You'd have to include a version. One thing you could do is > lib:xmlns="antlib://org/example/something#2.13" ...but that would > place the version into the namespace, which is too early to read > in/expand ant properties, and you'd h

Re: auto download of antlibs

2007-05-08 Thread Xavier Hanin
On 5/8/07, Steve Loughran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Xavier Hanin wrote: > On 5/7/07, Steve Loughran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> hooking in to a named ivy conf: >> >> > And wher is the version information? And how do we map this package > name to an organization/module name couple? What do yo

Re: auto download of antlibs

2007-05-08 Thread Xavier Hanin
On 5/7/07, Stephen McConnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -Original Message- > From: Xavier Hanin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, 4 May 2007 5:56 PM > To: Ant Developers List > Subject: Re: auto download of antlibs > > On 5/4/07, Steve Loughra

Re: auto download of antlibs

2007-05-08 Thread Steve Loughran
Xavier Hanin wrote: On 5/7/07, Steve Loughran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: hooking in to a named ivy conf: And wher is the version information? And how do we map this package name to an organization/module name couple? What do you think of providing all information: I'd expect all version

Re: auto download of antlibs

2007-05-08 Thread Steve Loughran
Stephen McConnell wrote: -Original Message- From: Stefan Bodewig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 3. an antlib resolver would do the mapping from antlib package to artifacts (problem one), actually a pretty big problem. Which may explain why two JSRs are dealing with the subject: http://

RE: auto download of antlibs

2007-05-07 Thread Stephen McConnell
> -Original Message- > From: Stefan Bodewig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 3. an antlib resolver would do the mapping from antlib package to > > artifacts (problem one), > > actually a pretty big problem. Which may explain why two JSRs are dealing with the subject: http://jcp.org/en/j

RE: auto download of antlibs

2007-05-07 Thread Stephen McConnell
> -Original Message- > From: Xavier Hanin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, 4 May 2007 5:56 PM > To: Ant Developers List > Subject: Re: auto download of antlibs > > On 5/4/07, Steve Loughran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > One thing

RE: auto download of antlibs

2007-05-07 Thread Stephen McConnell
> -Original Message- > From: Steve Loughran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, 4 May 2007 5:27 PM > To: Ant Developers List > Subject: auto download of antlibs > > > One thing I've been thinking of this week is how could we > work with I

Re: auto download of antlibs

2007-05-07 Thread Xavier Hanin
On 5/7/07, Steve Loughran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Xavier Hanin wrote: > On 5/4/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > we'd need a metadata tree mapping antlibs to well known packages, >> >> > but that is not too hard. JSON, perhaps. >> >> >> >> Not sure. Who'd maintain it? >

Re: auto download of antlibs

2007-05-07 Thread Steve Loughran
Xavier Hanin wrote: On 5/4/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > we'd need a metadata tree mapping antlibs to well known packages, >> > but that is not too hard. JSON, perhaps. >> >> Not sure. Who'd maintain it? > >It should be some xml format. >I think that it should be on the

Re: auto download of antlibs

2007-05-04 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On Fri, 4 May 2007, Xavier Hanin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 5/4/07, Stefan Bodewig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Fri, 04 May 2007, Steve Loughran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > we'd need a metadata tree mapping antlibs to well known packages, >> > but that is not too hard. JSON, perhaps.

Re: auto download of antlibs

2007-05-04 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On Fri, 4 May 2007, Peter Reilly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 5/4/07, Stefan Bodewig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Fri, 04 May 2007, Steve Loughran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > we'd need a metadata tree mapping antlibs to well known packages, >> > but that is not too hard. JSON, perhaps.

Re: auto download of antlibs

2007-05-04 Thread Xavier Hanin
On 5/4/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > we'd need a metadata tree mapping antlibs to well known packages, >> > but that is not too hard. JSON, perhaps. >> >> Not sure. Who'd maintain it? > >It should be some xml format. >I think that it should be on the ant site >and ant com

AW: auto download of antlibs

2007-05-04 Thread Jan.Materne
>> > we'd need a metadata tree mapping antlibs to well known packages, >> > but that is not too hard. JSON, perhaps. >> >> Not sure. Who'd maintain it? > >It should be some xml format. >I think that it should be on the ant site >and ant committers would be the updaters of it. >- this would be simi

Re: auto download of antlibs

2007-05-04 Thread Peter Reilly
On 5/4/07, Stefan Bodewig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, 04 May 2007, Steve Loughran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1. add a -offline argument to say "we are offline". this will set a > property, (and.build.offline) and the test will work. Do I sense oata.utils.NetworkUtils? Might contain s

Re: auto download of antlibs

2007-05-04 Thread Xavier Hanin
On 5/4/07, Stefan Bodewig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, 04 May 2007, Steve Loughran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1. add a -offline argument to say "we are offline". this will set a > property, (and.build.offline) and the test will work. Do I sense oata.utils.NetworkUtils? Might contain s

Re: auto download of antlibs

2007-05-04 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On Fri, 04 May 2007, Steve Loughran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1. add a -offline argument to say "we are offline". this will set a > property, (and.build.offline) and the test will work. Do I sense oata.utils.NetworkUtils? Might contain some Proxy configuration (and if possible detection) cod

Re: auto download of antlibs

2007-05-04 Thread Xavier Hanin
On 5/4/07, Steve Loughran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: One thing I've been thinking of this week is how could we work with Ivy for automatic antlib download. No code right now, just some thoughts 1. add a -offline argument to say "we are offline". this will set a property, (and.build.offline) a

auto download of antlibs

2007-05-04 Thread Steve Loughran
One thing I've been thinking of this week is how could we work with Ivy for automatic antlib download. No code right now, just some thoughts 1. add a -offline argument to say "we are offline". this will set a property, (and.build.offline) and the test will work. It is meant to tell things

Re: importer was: auto download of antlibs

2004-02-12 Thread Antoine Lévy-Lambert
> OK, now that Ant1.6 has antlibs, it is time to think of the next step: auto download of antlibs and (perhaps) dependencies. Importer from Krysalis does exactly this. It downloads, caches and imports build.xml files that I call antlets. Some initial documentation is available at http://krysa

importer was: auto download of antlibs

2004-02-12 Thread Nick Chalko
1.6 has antlibs, it is time to think of the next step: auto download of antlibs and (perhaps) dependencies. Importer from Krysalis does exactly this. It downloads, caches and imports build.xml files that I call antlets. Some initial documentation is available at http://krysalis.org/cgi-bin/kry

re: auto download of antlibs

2004-02-11 Thread Nick Chalko
In an earlier message Steve Loughran said > OK, now that Ant1.6 has antlibs, it is time to think of the next step: auto download of antlibs and (perhaps) dependencies. Importer from Krysalis does exactly this. It downloads, caches and imports build.xml files that I call antlets. S

RE: auto download of antlibs

2004-02-09 Thread Matt Benson
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > 1. Possible requirements > > > > -allow users to specify the URLs of dependent > antlibs > > Why only AntLibs? Maybe resources in general (jars, > AntLets, ...) > There was talk at one point about Ant 2.0 (sorry) possibly incorporating commons-vfs in some way. I

Re: auto download of antlibs

2004-02-09 Thread Steve Loughran
Costin Manolache wrote: Steve Loughran wrote: OK, now that Ant1.6 has antlibs, it is time to think of the next step: auto download of antlibs and (perhaps) dependencies. 1. Possible requirements -allow users to specify the URLs of dependent antlibs -allow teams to provide an override point that

RE: auto download of antlibs

2004-02-09 Thread Jan . Materne
> OK, now that Ant1.6 has antlibs, it is time to think of the > next step: > auto download of antlibs and (perhaps) dependencies. > > 1. Possible requirements > > -allow users to specify the URLs of dependent antlibs Why only AntLibs? Maybe resources in general (jars, Ant

Re: auto download of antlibs

2004-02-09 Thread Costin Manolache
Steve Loughran wrote: OK, now that Ant1.6 has antlibs, it is time to think of the next step: auto download of antlibs and (perhaps) dependencies. 1. Possible requirements -allow users to specify the URLs of dependent antlibs -allow teams to provide an override point that specifies their location

Re: auto download of antlibs

2004-02-08 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Steve Loughran wrote: OK, now that Ant1.6 has antlibs, it is time to think of the next step: auto download of antlibs and (perhaps) dependencies. 1. Possible requirements -allow users to specify the URLs of dependent antlibs -allow teams to provide an override point that specifies their location

auto download of antlibs

2004-02-08 Thread Steve Loughran
OK, now that Ant1.6 has antlibs, it is time to think of the next step: auto download of antlibs and (perhaps) dependencies. 1. Possible requirements -allow users to specify the URLs of dependent antlibs -allow teams to provide an override point that specifies their location -secure download