Re: Java Development with Ant

2005-07-28 Thread Emmanouil Batsis
Craeg Strong wrote: > Although it will only interest a small number of developers, i would happily contribute a "ecmascript/javascript with Ant" including JSdoc (similar with javadoc) and JSLint (instead of checkstyle) integration, unit test etc. > Manos Yes, Please! I am involved with a l

Re: Java Development with Ant

2005-07-27 Thread Steve Loughran
Erik Hatcher wrote: On Jul 26, 2005, at 5:30 AM, Steve Loughran wrote: Actually, maybe we should put together some official ant team presentations, for use in in-house or external talks, something like the following set. This could be something to get the user community involved in too...

Re: Java Development with Ant

2005-07-26 Thread Craeg Strong
> Although it will only interest a small number of developers, i would happily contribute a "ecmascript/javascript with Ant" including JSdoc (similar with javadoc) and JSLint (instead of checkstyle) integration, unit test etc. > Manos Yes, Please! I am involved with a large project that is

Re: Java Development with Ant

2005-07-26 Thread Erik Hatcher
On Jul 26, 2005, at 5:30 AM, Steve Loughran wrote: Actually, maybe we should put together some official ant team presentations, for use in in-house or external talks, something like the following set. This could be something to get the user community involved in too... -intro to ant -why

Re: Java Development with Ant

2005-07-26 Thread Emmanouil Batsis
Steve Loughran wrote: Actually, maybe we should put together some official ant team presentations, for use in in-house or external talks, something like the following set. This could be something to get the user community involved in too... -intro to ant -why testing matters more than you th

Re: Java Development with Ant

2005-07-26 Thread Steve Loughran
Kev Jackson wrote: Hi all, I'm preparing a talk for the developers here in Vietnam about how to use Ant to build software (mainly Java, but you know there's the .net tasks too). I have the main body of the presentation completed, but I wanted to include some of the more esoteric things you c

Re: Java Development with Ant

2005-07-26 Thread Kev Jackson
They are at the leading edge then... I have been interviewing candidates for a developer position not later than yesterday and it left me with a bitter test about software process and tools used within a team working...no source control within a team of 15 people (10 dev), etc... all that wit

Re: Java Development with Ant

2005-07-26 Thread Phil Weighill Smith
You may well have already included this sort of thing, but I'd cover (not really esoteric): * Immutability and overriding of properties (an often mis- understood aspect) * Conditional targets * Usage of id/refid * Multiple source tree support (e.g. for production an

Re: Java Development with Ant

2005-07-26 Thread Stephane Bailliez
Kev Jackson wrote: Needless to say, the working practices are similar to what I'd expect in the 80's (SourceSafe as version control, everyone locks files, Waterfall as the process, massive investment in design up front, testing is done by teams of bored people etc etc). They are at the leadi

Re: Java Development with Ant

2005-07-25 Thread Andrew
I work in a web agency, here are some of the more esoteric things I have done: - strictly control access to deployment/live servers; only access to deploy is via a series of Ant tasks; limit files that can go live by the use of file filters - promoting reference data from dev > staging databas