RE: JDK 1.1 support

2003-03-15 Thread Christoph Wilhelms
Hi! > I'd like to throw this up again. What are peoples thoughts on > the following > > 1. Make Ant 1.6.x the last JDK 1.1 release. This would be > clearly documented +1 Even for 1.5.x beeing the last JDK 1.1 release. We can start 1.2+ refactoring (like using collections) in 1.6 and continue i

Re: JDK 1.1 support

2003-03-14 Thread Costin Manolache
Stefan Bodewig wrote: >> Most likely a "fix" will be more introspection magic... > > Not in this case. The code that is JDK 1.2 dependent in Diagnostics > can be replaced by 1.1 code without too much pain (it can be stolen > from the JUnit task, for example). Maybe in this case - but more cod

Re: JDK 1.1 support

2003-03-14 Thread Bruce Atherton
At 03:28 PM 3/13/2003, Conor MacNeill wrote: I'd like to throw this up again. What are peoples thoughts on the following 1. Make Ant 1.6.x the last JDK 1.1 release. This would be clearly documented +1 2. Make the subsequent release require JDK 1.2+ (what about leap frogging to later versions?) I d

Re: JDK 1.1 support

2003-03-14 Thread Magesh Umasankar
- Original Message - From: "Conor MacNeill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I'd like to throw this up again. What are peoples thoughts on the following > > 1. Make Ant 1.6.x the last JDK 1.1 release. This would be clearly documented I would say 1.5.x so long as x is not frozen. IOW, if there are

Re: JDK 1.1 support

2003-03-14 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On Fri, 14 Mar 2003, Costin Manolache <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Stefan Bodewig wrote: > >> On Thu, 13 Mar 2003, Costin Manolache <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Is there any active committer that uses JDK1.1 ? >> >> Me, from time to time. I still have to maintain a library that has >> a st

Re: JDK 1.1 support

2003-03-14 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On Fri, 14 Mar 2003, Costin Manolache <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Stefan Bodewig wrote: >>> Just as a data point, CVS HEAD (Ant 1.6) has not compiled against >>> JDK 1.1 for a while now (due to diagnostics changes). >> >> But I've nagged Steve about it and promise to fix it during the >> next fe

Re: JDK 1.1 support

2003-03-14 Thread Costin Manolache
Stefan Bodewig wrote: > On Thu, 13 Mar 2003, Costin Manolache <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Is there any active committer that uses JDK1.1 ? > > Me, from time to time. I still have to maintain a library that has > a strong requirement of compiling against 1.1. And using ant1.5 won't be enoug

Re: JDK 1.1 support

2003-03-14 Thread Costin Manolache
Stefan Bodewig wrote: > Fine with me. > > I'd like to keep 1.6 compatible to JDK 1.1, though. When we make 1.2 > a requirement, we'd better start using collections and URLClassloader > consistently - and doing this for 1.6 would push 1.6 even further down > the timeline. There are 3 issues: 1.

Re: JDK 1.1 support

2003-03-14 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On Thu, 13 Mar 2003, Costin Manolache <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there any active committer that uses JDK1.1 ? Me, from time to time. I still have to maintain a library that has a strong requirement of compiling against 1.1. > Are any active committers that are willing to support 1.1 ? So

Re: JDK 1.1 support

2003-03-14 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On Fri, 14 Mar 2003, Conor MacNeill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1. Make Ant 1.6.x the last JDK 1.1 release. This would be clearly > documented Fine with me. I'd like to keep 1.6 compatible to JDK 1.1, though. When we make 1.2 a requirement, we'd better start using collections and URLClassloade

Re: JDK 1.1 support

2003-03-14 Thread Paul King
Steve Loughran wrote: - Original Message - From: "Costin Manolache" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 16:53 Subject: Re: JDK 1.1 support Then let's figure out if we shouldn't drop JDK1.1 now. I think moving to 1.2

Re: JDK 1.1 support

2003-03-14 Thread Costin Manolache
Adam Murdoch wrote: > It would also be a perfect time for a bit of selective > backwards-compatibility breaking at the code level: eg sort out the > classloader heirarchy, ditch deprecated methods, separate the core into > public api and private internals, split up project's responsibilities, > se

Re: JDK 1.1 support

2003-03-14 Thread Costin Manolache
Steve Loughran wrote: >> I'm +1 to maintaining support for 1.1 if at least one committer is >> willing to volunteer to support it ( and does it ). > > 1. what do we gain from dropping 1.1 support at this stage in ant1.6? Few things. Using URLClassLoader would simplify a lot of code - to me that

Re: JDK 1.1 support

2003-03-14 Thread Conor MacNeill
On Fri, 14 Mar 2003 01:02 pm, Steve Loughran wrote: > > Maybe we should ask the user community, not the dev mailing list. > Good idea - done. -- Conor MacNeill Blog: http://codefeed.com/blog/

Re: JDK 1.1 support

2003-03-14 Thread Steve Loughran
- Original Message - From: "Costin Manolache" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 16:53 Subject: Re: JDK 1.1 support > Then let's figure out if we shouldn't drop JDK1.1 now. > > Is there any active co

Re: JDK 1.1 support

2003-03-14 Thread Adam Murdoch
On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 11:28 pm, Conor MacNeill wrote: > I'd like to throw this up again. What are peoples thoughts on the following > > 1. Make Ant 1.6.x the last JDK 1.1 release. This would be clearly > documented +1 for ditching JDK 1.1. Presumably we would still support compilation with an exte

Re: JDK 1.1 support

2003-03-14 Thread Conor MacNeill
On Fri, 14 Mar 2003 11:53 am, Costin Manolache wrote: > Conor MacNeill wrote: > > I'd like to throw this up again. What are peoples thoughts on the > > following > > > > 1. Make Ant 1.6.x the last JDK 1.1 release. This would be clearly > > documented > > +1 > ( I would be +1 on making ant1.5 the la

Re: JDK 1.1 support

2003-03-14 Thread Costin Manolache
Conor MacNeill wrote: > I'd like to throw this up again. What are peoples thoughts on the > following > > 1. Make Ant 1.6.x the last JDK 1.1 release. This would be clearly > documented +1 ( I would be +1 on making ant1.5 the last JDK1.1 release :-) > 2. Make the subsequent release require JDK

Re: JDK 1.1 support

2003-03-14 Thread Steve Loughran
- Original Message - From: "Conor MacNeill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Ant Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 16:10 Subject: Re: JDK 1.1 support > > > > > yes, that was my fault, wasnt it. File a bug aga

Re: JDK 1.1 support

2003-03-14 Thread Conor MacNeill
On Fri, 14 Mar 2003 10:55 am, Steve Loughran wrote: > From: "Conor MacNeill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > 4. Drop all the Ant2 cruft from the website. > > I think it should be preserved. > Some it is still interesting and worth keeping. By cruft I mean statements like "We are currently hashing out

Re: JDK 1.1 support

2003-03-13 Thread Steve Loughran
- Original Message - From: "Conor MacNeill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 15:28 Subject: JDK 1.1 support > I'd like to throw this up again. What are peoples thoughts on the following > > 1. Make Ant 1.6.x the last JDK 1.1 release. This would b

RE: JDK 1.1 support

2003-03-13 Thread Dominique Devienne
+1 -Original Message- From: Conor MacNeill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 5:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: JDK 1.1 support I'd like to throw this up again. What are peoples thoughts on the following 1. Make Ant 1.6.x the last JDK 1.1 release. This would b

RE: JDK 1.1 support

2003-03-13 Thread Matt Bishop
+1 -Original Message- From: Conor MacNeill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 3:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: JDK 1.1 support I'd like to throw this up again. What are peoples thoughts on the following 1. Make Ant 1.6.x the last JDK 1.1 release. This would b