Re: ant 1.7. Finding undefined variables

2009-05-26 Thread Steve Loughran
Dominique Devienne wrote: On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Dave Pawson wrote: 2009/5/20 Dominique Devienne : Yes, that's what I generate. Except I run through the properties file and the build file to ensure I get all the (used) properties! As apposed to what I remembered to put in (and didn't

Re: ant 1.7. Finding undefined variables

2009-05-21 Thread Dave Pawson
2009/5/21 Dominique Devienne : >> An example please Dominique? > > XML elements reading properties without the ${name} notation > > > > ... > > XML elements writing properties affecting the rest of the build: > > > I've not seen any of those. Perhaps you could provide me with an example bui

Re: ant 1.7. Finding undefined variables

2009-05-21 Thread Dominique Devienne
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:25 PM, Dave Pawson wrote: > 2009/5/20 Dominique Devienne : > >> I suggested postprocessing Ant's output as there are can hidden use of >> properties which is not easy to pick up by parsing the Ant XML file >> (they don't look like ${name} in attributes for example), and

Re: ant 1.7. Finding undefined variables

2009-05-20 Thread Dave Pawson
2009/5/20 Dominique Devienne : > I suggested postprocessing Ant's output as there are can hidden use of > properties which is not easy to pick up by parsing the Ant XML file > (they don't look like ${name} in attributes for example), and could > thus possibly pick up info on more properties. An

Re: ant 1.7. Finding undefined variables

2009-05-20 Thread Dominique Devienne
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Dave Pawson wrote: > 2009/5/20 Dominique Devienne : > >> Maybe running in verbose or debug mode and grepping for all property >> related messages, especially those about not finding the property, and >> convert that into a build similarly to what you did? --DD > >

Re: ant 1.7. Finding undefined variables

2009-05-20 Thread Dave Pawson
2009/5/20 Dominique Devienne : > Maybe running in verbose or debug mode and grepping for all property > related messages, especially those about not finding the property, and > convert that into a build similarly to what you did? --DD Yes Possibly. I chose Python and xslt. I gather you don't fin

Re: ant 1.7. Finding undefined variables

2009-05-20 Thread Dominique Devienne
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Dave Pawson wrote: > 2009/5/20 Dominique Devienne : > Yes, that's what I generate. Except I run through the properties file > and the build file to ensure I get all the (used) properties! >  As apposed to what I remembered to put in (and didn't change). > That's th

Re: ant 1.7. Finding undefined variables

2009-05-20 Thread Dave Pawson
2009/5/20 Dominique Devienne : > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Dave Pawson wrote: >> I keep changing them which results in undefined variables which ant >> ignores, spreading odd filenames all over the place. > > What I used to do was use with a nested condition asserting for > some properties

Re: ant 1.7. Finding undefined variables

2009-05-20 Thread Dominique Devienne
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Dave Pawson wrote: > I keep changing them which results in undefined variables which ant > ignores, spreading odd filenames all over the place. What I used to do was use with a nested condition asserting for some properties to be defined were indeed defined. Abor

RE: Ant 1.7 - ReleaseInstructions - Compiler

2006-08-21 Thread Stephen McConnell
> -Original Message- > From: Kev Jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, 22 August 2006 9:59 AM > To: Ant Developers List > Subject: Re: Ant 1.7 - ReleaseInstructions - Compiler > > > On 21 Aug 2006, at 21:19, Antoine Levy-Lambert wrote: > >

Re: Ant 1.7 - ReleaseInstructions - Compiler

2006-08-21 Thread Kev Jackson
On 21 Aug 2006, at 21:19, Antoine Levy-Lambert wrote: Hello Kev, when you built the alpha version of ant 1.7, which compiler did you use ? 1.4 or 1.5 ? I used the default compiler, which at the moment is 1.5 Kev -- "I call it the State where everyone, good or bad, is a poison- drinker:

Re: Ant 1.7 alpha available for testing...

2006-07-31 Thread Kev Jackson
You have something that works but will not scale. You know that, don't you? Absolutely - but then I'm being paid to implement a spec, not to suggest an alternative solution. This is the way it works in the outsourcing/offshoring dev world - we just get a spec and have to implement it reg

Re: Ant 1.7 alpha available for testing...

2006-07-31 Thread Steve Loughran
Kev Jackson wrote: yes, cfengine and lcfg can keep your stuff in control. There's also games you can play with vmware/xen hosted images, where the real CPUs just host the virtual machines, and those you replicate off managed "gold" images. It's funny that you mention this, as my current pro

Re: Ant 1.7 alpha available for testing...

2006-07-31 Thread jfuller
Steve Loughran wrote: > That sounds like quite a rigorous process. > > yes, cfengine and lcfg can keep your stuff in control. There's also > games you can play with vmware/xen hosted images, where the real CPUs just host the virtual machines, and those you replicate off managed "gold" images.

Re: Ant 1.7 alpha available for testing...

2006-07-31 Thread James Fuller
Steve Loughran wrote: jfuller wrote: Steve Loughran wrote: jfuller wrote: Looks good during my first checks. looks good on OSX 10.4.6, will be testing this release on a 'serious' build server farm over the weekend (rhe4). how many servers constitutes serious? the system cons

Re: Ant 1.7 alpha available for testing...

2006-07-30 Thread Kev Jackson
yes, cfengine and lcfg can keep your stuff in control. There's also games you can play with vmware/xen hosted images, where the real CPUs just host the virtual machines, and those you replicate off managed "gold" images. It's funny that you mention this, as my current project is working o

Re: Ant 1.7 alpha available for testing...

2006-07-30 Thread Steve Loughran
jfuller wrote: Steve Loughran wrote: jfuller wrote: Looks good during my first checks. looks good on OSX 10.4.6, will be testing this release on a 'serious' build server farm over the weekend (rhe4). how many servers constitutes serious? the system consists of 6 servers, in pairs

Re: Ant 1.7 alpha available for testing...

2006-07-28 Thread jfuller
Steve Loughran wrote: jfuller wrote: Looks good during my first checks. looks good on OSX 10.4.6, will be testing this release on a 'serious' build server farm over the weekend (rhe4). how many servers constitutes serious? the system consists of 6 servers, in pairs of 2 (dev/critic

Re: Ant 1.7 alpha available for testing...

2006-07-28 Thread Steve Loughran
jfuller wrote: Looks good during my first checks. looks good on OSX 10.4.6, will be testing this release on a 'serious' build server farm over the weekend (rhe4). how many servers constitutes serious? - To unsubscribe

Re: Ant 1.7 alpha available for testing...

2006-07-28 Thread jfuller
Looks good during my first checks. looks good on OSX 10.4.6, will be testing this release on a 'serious' build server farm over the weekend (rhe4). -- Jim Fuller --- FlameDigital Limited | Webcomposite s.r.o. Technical Director Co-Author WROX Pro PHP4 XML, WROX Pro PHP Web Service

Re: Ant 1.7 alpha available for testing...

2006-07-27 Thread Stefan Bodewig
I'm not sure I like the version number. No problem with the Saigon bit, but should be 1.7.0alpha. Looks good during my first checks. Stefan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PRO

Re: Ant 1.7 alpha available for testing...

2006-07-27 Thread Matt Benson
--- Matt Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kev: > I notice that get-m2.xml is missing from the root of > the jar; er... tar I mean. :) > fetch.xml now depends on it. Where did it > go? :) > > -Matt > > --- Kev Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Fixed the download probl

Re: Ant 1.7 alpha available for testing...

2006-07-27 Thread Matt Benson
Kev: I notice that get-m2.xml is missing from the root of the jar; fetch.xml now depends on it. Where did it go? :) -Matt --- Kev Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Fixed the download problem with some .htaccess mojo, > so for your > approval and delight: > > http://people.apache

Re: Ant 1.7 release

2006-06-10 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On Sat, 10 Jun 2006, Jesse Glick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Stefan Bodewig wrote: >> Java 5 adds a completely new sort of problems with APIs retrofitted >> to support generics. Since Comparable is now Comparable the >> BigInteger class used to have a method int compareTo(Object) and >> now has

Re: Ant 1.7 release

2006-06-10 Thread Jesse Glick
Kev Jackson wrote: I can build all the ant-* jars except ant-starteam and ant-weblogic I've contacted borland regarding getting access to starteam sdk without having to sign up to some ridiculous trial/download nonsense. [...] Note that we could set up separate source roots containing phony cl

Re: Ant 1.7 release

2006-06-10 Thread Jesse Glick
Stefan Bodewig wrote: Say there is a method void doSomething(Object o); in a class inside the Java class library of JDK 1.3 and a new overload void doSomething(String s); was added in JDK 1.4. Any call to doSomething("") compiled on JDK 1.4 and above will pick the String signature

Re: Ant 1.7 release

2006-06-04 Thread Kev Jackson
On 5 Jun 2006, at 03:08, Steve Loughran wrote: Antoine Levy-Lambert wrote: Hi, I am having a look at http://wiki.apache.org/ant/Ant17/Planning We are still on the step "finding a release manager" Do we have any candidates ? I'm tempted to do it but can't as I am three chapters out from fin

Re: Ant 1.7 release

2006-06-04 Thread Steve Loughran
Antoine Levy-Lambert wrote: Hi, I am having a look at http://wiki.apache.org/ant/Ant17/Planning We are still on the step "finding a release manager" Do we have any candidates ? I'm tempted to do it but can't as I am three chapters out from finishing the text of the book, then its all the o

Re: Re: Ant 1.7 release

2006-06-02 Thread Antoine Levy-Lambert
, Antoine > Original-Nachricht > Datum: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 09:22:43 -0500 > Von: Dominique Devienne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > An: Ant Developers List > Betreff: Re: Ant 1.7 release > > >We simply can't. Leaving the generics/erasure problem aside, the

Re: Ant 1.7 release

2006-06-02 Thread Dominique Devienne
We simply can't. Leaving the generics/erasure problem aside, there is a way to ensure you don't compile against methods that are too new, but it is painful: start building with JDK 1.2, compile what hasn't been compiled by building with JDK 1.3, repeat with JDK 1.4 and 1.5. What about "cross-co

Re: Ant 1.7 release

2006-06-02 Thread Antoine Levy-Lambert
Hi, I am going to make these jars available to Kevin. Regards, Antoine Kev Jackson wrote: > A quick update regarding my situation trying to build a test release > dist. > > I can now bootstrap everything except starteam and weblogic. I'm also > having a strange issue with Echo not compiling in

Re: Ant 1.7 release

2006-06-02 Thread Kev Jackson
A quick update regarding my situation trying to build a test release dist. I can now bootstrap everything except starteam and weblogic. I'm also having a strange issue with Echo not compiling in eclipse (but works fine from command line). ie, I can build all the ant-* jars except ant-sta

Re: Ant 1.7 release

2006-06-01 Thread Conor MacNeill
Kev Jackson wrote: > > On 1 Jun 2006, at 10:02, Antoine Levy-Lambert wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I am having a look at http://wiki.apache.org/ant/Ant17/Planning >> >> We are still on the step "finding a release manager" >> >> Do we have any candidates ? >> > > I'd be happy to help, but before I offer

Re: Ant 1.7 release

2006-06-01 Thread Kev Jackson
On 2 Jun 2006, at 11:37, Stefan Bodewig wrote: On Fri, 2 Jun 2006, Kev Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 2 Jun 2006, at 11:16, Stefan Bodewig wrote: Object signature alternative. It is impossible to compile code on JDK 1.5 that uses the method and still works on JDK 1.4 - but the opp

Re: Ant 1.7 release

2006-06-01 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On Fri, 2 Jun 2006, Kev Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2 Jun 2006, at 11:16, Stefan Bodewig wrote: > >> Object signature alternative. It is impossible to compile code on >> JDK 1.5 that uses the method and still works on JDK 1.4 - but the >> opposite is also true > > This leaves us i

Re: Ant 1.7 release

2006-06-01 Thread Kev Jackson
On 2 Jun 2006, at 11:16, Stefan Bodewig wrote: Object signature alternative. It is impossible to compile code on JDK 1.5 that uses the method and still works on JDK 1.4 - but the opposite is also true This leaves us in a pickle unless we can guarantee that the every line of code will both

Re: Ant 1.7 release

2006-06-01 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On Thu, 1 Jun 2006, Jan Materne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>Not sure if we can build Ant 1.7 under JDK 1.5 also all in one >>go and still produce jars which can run under 1.2. > > Should be possible (but I would do a test after the build...) > > http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/tooldocs/wind

Re: Ant 1.7 release

2006-06-01 Thread Kev Jackson
Hi all, I'm not confirming yet to be release manager, but I'm preparing a build environment with all libs etc - so I'm edging my hat into the ring you need the libs for all the optional tasks described in the section "installing ant" of the manual. I have all the latest libs as describe

Re: Ant 1.7 release

2006-06-01 Thread Antoine Levy-Lambert
Kev Jackson wrote: > > On 1 Jun 2006, at 10:02, Antoine Levy-Lambert wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I am having a look at http://wiki.apache.org/ant/Ant17/Planning >> >> We are still on the step "finding a release manager" >> >> Do we have any candidates ? >> > > I'd be happy to help, but before I offer mys

Re: Ant 1.7 release

2006-05-31 Thread Kev Jackson
On 1 Jun 2006, at 10:02, Antoine Levy-Lambert wrote: Hi, I am having a look at http://wiki.apache.org/ant/Ant17/Planning We are still on the step "finding a release manager" Do we have any candidates ? I'd be happy to help, but before I offer myself as the 'release manager', what would

Re: Ant 1.7 beta?

2006-04-25 Thread Kev Jackson
Its on my todo list to do full deployment from smartfrog to the various app servers, even though we tend to use jetty in-process for our day to day work. Lightweight, easily configured, self-contained. I'll have to try jetty, it's been on my list of web containers to try for donkey's years.

Re: Ant 1.7 beta?

2006-04-25 Thread Steve Loughran
Kev Jackson wrote: I'm trying to set up a conf call with the junit team, to see how best to go with the junit4 support. I am currently thinking - stays 3.8.x only. -we add a new junit antlib for junit4 support, design it to work on 1.6.5 and 1.7 -maybe hand off ownership of the antlib to the

Re: Ant 1.7 beta?

2006-04-25 Thread Kev Jackson
I'm trying to set up a conf call with the junit team, to see how best to go with the junit4 support. I am currently thinking - stays 3.8.x only. -we add a new junit antlib for junit4 support, design it to work on 1.6.5 and 1.7 -maybe hand off ownership of the antlib to the junit team, if they

Re: Ant 1.7 beta?

2006-04-25 Thread Steve Loughran
( I just replied using the wrong from: address, so it probably wont go through. lets try again) Kev Jackson wrote: to allow adding of jars to the current classloader (would solve a /lot/ of problems at the cost of some issues)[peter] (status RE "some issues" risk? -MJB) Prima

Re: Ant 1.7 beta?

2006-04-25 Thread Steve Loughran
Kev Jackson wrote: Antoine Levy-Lambert wrote: Kev Jackson wrote: Hi, Checked the planning wiki this morning and noticed that the release schedule for the first beta of 1.7 is set at May/June this year. Since this is rapidly approaching, what are the thoughts on a: timing, each releas

Re: Ant 1.7 beta?

2006-04-24 Thread Kev Jackson
Antoine Levy-Lambert wrote: Kev Jackson wrote: Hi, Checked the planning wiki this morning and noticed that the release schedule for the first beta of 1.7 is set at May/June this year. Since this is rapidly approaching, what are the thoughts on a: timing, each release requires a vote.

Re: Ant 1.7 beta?

2006-04-24 Thread Antoine Levy-Lambert
Kev Jackson wrote: > Hi, > > Checked the planning wiki this morning and noticed that the release > schedule for the first beta of 1.7 is set at May/June this year. > > Since this is rapidly approaching, what are the thoughts on > a: timing, each release requires a vote. A vote is open one week. but

Re: Ant 1.7 NullPointerException AbstractFileSet and OOM error

2006-04-18 Thread Kev Jackson
Matt, Just verified your changes have fixed the problem relating to Cargo and the NullPointer I was experiencing - thanks for looking into it for me. Kev - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-

Re: Ant 1.7 NullPointerException AbstractFileSet and OOM error

2006-04-18 Thread Kevin Jackson
On 4/18/06, Matt Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, I checked out appfuse, DL'd Tomcat... then it > wants mysql, which I just don't have time to install > too right now. :) I will check in my changes anyway. Thanks, I have all these installed as my 'day job' is server-side/web-app java, s

Re: Ant 1.7 NullPointerException AbstractFileSet and OOM error

2006-04-18 Thread Matt Benson
Well, I checked out appfuse, DL'd Tomcat... then it wants mysql, which I just don't have time to install too right now. :) I will check in my changes anyway. -Matt --- Kev Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >well, obviously if I broke them it's entirely > likely > >they won't be alone. P

Re: Ant 1.7 NullPointerException AbstractFileSet and OOM error

2006-04-17 Thread Kev Jackson
well, obviously if I broke them it's entirely likely they won't be alone. Probably the easiest/most BC thing will be some form of checking whether (Abstract?)FileSet instances have a project set and using the task's project if not (I think fileset handling is separate from other ResourceCollect

Re: Ant 1.7 NullPointerException AbstractFileSet and OOM error

2006-04-17 Thread Matt Benson
--- Kev Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hm, > > In the cargo code we have: > > /** > * Remove all file in the configuration directory. > */ > private void cleanConfigurationDirectory() > { > // Clean up stuff previously put in the > temporary directory but do not > // remove t

Re: Ant 1.7 NullPointerException AbstractFileSet and OOM error

2006-04-17 Thread Kev Jackson
Hm, In the cargo code we have: /** * Remove all file in the configuration directory. */ private void cleanConfigurationDirectory() { // Clean up stuff previously put in the temporary directory but do not // remove the Cargo timestamp file Delete delete = (Delete) getAntUtils().create

Re: Ant 1.7 NullPointerException AbstractFileSet

2006-04-17 Thread Kev Jackson
Antoine Levy-Lambert wrote: Hello Kev, the question is which piece of code creates the filesets which are added here to the delete task. this piece of code is probably creating the filesets in such a way that the project field is not set. I imagine this happens in the org.codehaus.cargo.contain

Re: Ant 1.7 NullPointerException AbstractFileSet

2006-04-17 Thread Antoine Levy-Lambert
Hello Kev, the question is which piece of code creates the filesets which are added here to the delete task. this piece of code is probably creating the filesets in such a way that the project field is not set. I imagine this happens in the org.codehaus.cargo.container codebase. Changing in Delet

RE: ANT 1.7 features suggestion

2004-05-12 Thread Jose Alberto Fernandez
the condition on the right antlib. For the syntax of the language itself, any of the ones proposed is fine. Jose Alberto > -Original Message- > From: Dominique Devienne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 11 May 2004 17:28 > To: 'Ant Developers List' >

Re: ANT 1.7 features suggestion

2004-05-11 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Dominique Devienne wrote: From: Alexey N. Solofnenko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually is too wordy. A mall is translated into Complex conditions are big. A small expression language like "XXX && YYY" would be much nicer. I so agree with you! That expression language could (should IMHO!) be XPat

Re: ANT 1.7 features suggestion

2004-05-11 Thread Jack J. Woehr
"Jack J. Woehr" wrote: > Hmm, this is something interesting for Ant in itself. > > truevalue="yes was 9" /> > > Is there an expression evaluating jar that could be added to optional? There's the Math task in Ant-Contrib which does part of this. And

Re: ANT 1.7 features suggestion

2004-05-11 Thread Jack J. Woehr
Jose Alberto Fernandez wrote: > But this would require defining a proper expression evaluation language > for it. Hmm, this is something interesting for Ant in itself. Is there an expression evaluating jar that could be added to optional? -- Jack J. Woehr # We have gone from the hor

Re: ANT 1.7 features suggestion

2004-05-11 Thread Alexey N. Solofnenko
ot something simple at all. Jose Alberto -Original Message- From: Alexey N. Solofnenko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 May 2004 17:10 To: Ant Developers List Subject: Re: ANT 1.7 features suggestion Actually is too wordy. A mall is translated into Complex conditions are bi

RE: ANT 1.7 features suggestion

2004-05-11 Thread Jose Alberto Fernandez
simple at all. Jose Alberto > -Original Message- > From: Alexey N. Solofnenko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 11 May 2004 17:10 > To: Ant Developers List > Subject: Re: ANT 1.7 features suggestion > > > Actually is too wordy. A mal

RE: ANT 1.7 features suggestion

2004-05-11 Thread Dominique Devienne
> From: Alexey N. Solofnenko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Actually is too wordy. A mall is translated into > > Complex conditions are big. A small expression language like "XXX && > YYY" would be much nicer. I so agree with you! That expression language could (should IMHO!) be XPath (JXpath o

Re: ANT 1.7 features suggestion

2004-05-11 Thread Alexey N. Solofnenko
Actually is too wordy. A mall is translated into Complex conditions are big. A small expression language like "XXX && YYY" would be much nicer. - Alexey. Jose Alberto Fernandez wrote: From: Alexey N. Solofnenko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I do use it also. Do you know whethe

RE: ANT 1.7 features suggestion

2004-05-11 Thread Jose Alberto Fernandez
> From: Alexey N. Solofnenko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I do use it also. Do you know whether it will become a part > of main ANT? > So why you feel unconfortable about using is the fact that is not part of the supported CORE of ANT. Is that it? That may give some food for thought, to the

Re: ANT 1.7 features suggestion

2004-05-11 Thread Alexey N. Solofnenko
Ant Developers List Subject: Re: ANT 1.7 features suggestion Frequently I need several properties to be checked to enable or disable a target. A boolean expression would be much better than a list of properties, but I would be happy with just a list. I think if should have && inside and u

RE: ANT 1.7 features suggestion

2004-05-11 Thread Jose Alberto Fernandez
Ok, what is wrong with using ? Besides, look&feel. Jose Alberto > -Original Message- > From: Alexey N. Solofnenko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 11 May 2004 15:33 > To: Ant Developers List > Subject: Re: ANT 1.7 features suggestion > > > Frequently I n

Re: ANT 1.7 features suggestion

2004-05-11 Thread Alexey N. Solofnenko
Frequently I need several properties to be checked to enable or disable a target. A boolean expression would be much better than a list of properties, but I would be happy with just a list. I think if should have && inside and unless should have ||. - Alexey. Stefan Bodewig wrote: On Tue, 04 Ma

Re: ANT 1.7 features suggestion

2004-05-11 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On Tue, 04 May 2004, Alexey N. Solofnenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Could you please also update if and unless to accept a list of > properties? if="A, B" would mean "A is set and B is set" or "A is set or B is set"? You know that propertiy names are allowed to contain spaces and commas and a

Re: ANT 1.7 features suggestion

2004-05-11 Thread Stefan Bodewig
I'm soo late for the party that I'll try to not restart the whole thing. On Tue, 04 May 2004, Anthony Goubard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1) Integrate if and unless at the Task level. A nested would be far more powerful, as would be an task. Don't expect any opinion from me. 8-) > 3) Reg

Re: ANT 1.7 features suggestion

2004-05-11 Thread Stefan Bodewig
I'm soo late for the party that I'll try to not restart the whole thing. On Tue, 04 May 2004, Anthony Goubard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1) Integrate if and unless at the Task level. A nested would be far more powerful, as would be an task. Don't expect any opinion from me. 8-) > 3) Reg

Re: ANT 1.7 features suggestion

2004-05-05 Thread Anthony Goubard
Dale Anson wrote: AntContrib has a couple of tasks that handle this specific situation, see and . is analogous to , is analogous to , both allow returning property values set in the remote target. Also see AntContrib's or Antelope's task (these are identical) which call a target in the s

Re: ANT 1.7 features suggestion

2004-05-05 Thread Anthony Goubard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) Integrate if and unless at the Task level. This would allow all ANT tasks to have the if and unless attribute (the same way that it has an id attribute). So far the only way to do it is by using except if you use one of the task which has already the "if" "unless" a

RE: ANT 1.7 features suggestion

2004-05-05 Thread Jose Alberto Fernandez
> From: Dominique Devienne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > From: Jose Alberto Fernandez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > But we already have all this in our ANT conditions. So why > do we want > > to redefine them again with a new syntax? How do you add new > > conditions? Because the need for ne

RE: ANT 1.7 features suggestion

2004-05-05 Thread Dominique Devienne
> From: Jose Alberto Fernandez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > From: Dominique Devienne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > From: Jose Alberto Fernandez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > -100 :-\ > > > > > > IMHO, if/unless in targets are one of the worst features we have in > > > the ANT language. >

RE: ANT 1.7 features suggestion

2004-05-05 Thread Jose Alberto Fernandez
> From: Dominique Devienne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > From: Jose Alberto Fernandez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -100 :-\ > > > > IMHO, if/unless in targets are one of the worst features we have in > > the ANT language. > > I'm completely at the other end of the spectrum! I think >

Re: ANT 1.7 features suggestion

2004-05-05 Thread Dale Anson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 6) Get the properties from a target after antcall At the moment if you have a target that define some properties, the only way to call it in order to get the values is using "depends". This is a problem as you may want to invoke your target not necessary at the beginn

RE: ANT 1.7 features suggestion

2004-05-05 Thread Dominique Devienne
> From: Jose Alberto Fernandez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -100 :-\ > > IMHO, if/unless in targets are one of the worst features we have in the > ANT language. I'm completely at the other end of the spectrum! I think if/unless, and extension of these that I coded up in my custom tasks/types, m

RE: ANT 1.7 features suggestion

2004-05-05 Thread Jose Alberto Fernandez
[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 05 May 2004 01:26 > To: Ant Developers List > Subject: Re: ANT 1.7 features suggestion > > > Could you please also update if and unless to accept a list > of properties? > > - Alexey. > > Sullivan, Sean C - MWT wrote: > >

Re: ANT 1.7 features suggestion

2004-05-05 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
After the task, what about this, that downloads 'plugins' and s them? http://antworks.sourceforge.net/ http://url-to/plugin/"; /> -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgo

RE: ANT 1.7 features suggestion

2004-05-05 Thread Jan . Materne
> 1) Integrate if and unless at the Task level. > This would allow all ANT tasks to have the if and unless > attribute (the > same way that it has an id attribute). > So far the only way to do it is by using except if > you use one > of the task which has already the "if" "unless" attributes

Re: ANT 1.7 features suggestion

2004-05-05 Thread Alexey N. Solofnenko
Could you please also update if and unless to accept a list of properties? - Alexey. Sullivan, Sean C - MWT wrote: +1 -Original Message- From: Anthony Goubard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] A few weeks ago, there was a discussion about the new features in ANT 1.7. [...] 1) Integrate i

RE: ANT 1.7 features suggestion

2004-05-05 Thread Sullivan, Sean C - MWT
+1 > -Original Message- > From: Anthony Goubard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > A few weeks ago, there was a discussion about the new features in ANT 1.7. > > [...] > > 1) Integrate if and unless at the Task level. > This would allow all ANT tasks to have the if and unless attribute (the

Re: ANT 1.7 features suggestion

2004-05-04 Thread Anthony Goubard
Hi, I understand your point as 2 months ago I was still running Windows 98 (first edition ;-)) and developing a swing program that could run with Java 1.1.8 As I wrote in my answer to Steve, Ant would still work the same for jdk 1.2 users, it's just a way to reduce the number of jar files in the

Re: ANT 1.7 features suggestion

2004-05-04 Thread Anthony Goubard
Steve Loughran wrote: Anthony Goubard wrote: Hello, A few weeks ago, there was a discussion about the new features in ANT 1.7. I've made a list of features that I think would be useful in ANT and that I'd like to discuss on this mailing list. Maybe some of you would have a usage of these new fea

RE: ANT 1.7 features suggestion

2004-05-04 Thread Kenneth Wood
-Original Message- From: Anthony Goubard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 12:01 PM To: Ant Developers List Subject: ANT 1.7 features suggestion Hello, - I think that more than 50% of the users uses Java 1.4 I think that is unrealistic. In decent to large

Re: ANT 1.7 features suggestion

2004-05-04 Thread Steve Loughran
Anthony Goubard wrote: Hello, A few weeks ago, there was a discussion about the new features in ANT 1.7. I've made a list of features that I think would be useful in ANT and that I'd like to discuss on this mailing list. Maybe some of you would have a usage of these new feature for your existing

Re: Ant 1.7

2004-02-25 Thread Consult-smi, Coenen
> Maybe it is possible to revive this vfs project. Other people sending > emails to the list have mentioned the slide project > and also the new http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=170 Java Content > Repository API proposal. > I have had a look at the JCR web page. I think that there is some > overl

Re: Ant 1.7

2004-02-20 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004, Matt Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My thinking here was if there existed two file > collection abstractions, say > o.a.t.a.types.AbstractFileSet and > o.a.t.a.types.maybenewpackagehere.NewFileSetInterface, > each could be d to adapt to the other, so > that the maximum nu

Re: Ant 1.7

2004-02-18 Thread Antoine Lévy-Lambert
Anthony Goubard wrote: Hi, Hi, In any case I am starting to think about ant 1.7 and further. Here are the points which spring to my mind : 1) local properties, Here I'd like to point out to something strange I saw last month; properties are local if you use antcall but not with depends :

Re: Ant 1.7

2004-02-18 Thread Anthony Goubard
Hi, >Hi, > > >In any case I am starting to think about ant 1.7 and further. > >Here are the points which spring to my mind : > >1) local properties, Here I'd like to point out to something strange I saw last month; properties are local if you use antcall but not with depends :

Re: Ant 1.7 (target access)

2004-02-18 Thread Gus Heck
In any case I am starting to think about ant 1.7 and further. Here are the points which spring to my mind : 1) local properties, 2) roles, 3) get the xdocs proposal out, 4) think about virtual file system abstractions, and do something about them, 5) fix some popular bugs from bugzilla How about

RE: Ant 1.7

2004-02-18 Thread Jan . Materne
> And we must take our time to design more general APIs. The best thing > would be to do it in a sandbox with a big shield on the > sandbox "Warning > - works here - no backward compatibility guaranteed" so that the guys > developing there can experiment freely different designs. Maybe I´ve fo

Re: Ant 1.7

2004-02-18 Thread Antoine Lévy-Lambert
Matt, pay attention that most of our tasks - even if you add some introspection magic - could not work with something different from the current filesets. a lot of tasks, say , , ... are very file orientated. It is not enough to have vfs-filesets or something like that, you need to have the

Re: Ant 1.7

2004-02-18 Thread Matt Benson
--- Stefan Bodewig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 16 Feb 2004, Matt Benson > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > is it currently possible to use a type as its own > class if > > available, then adapt if possible instead? > > I'm not sure I follow you here. My guess is that > the answer is no,

Re: Ant 1.7

2004-02-18 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Antoine Lévy-Lambert wrote: ... The xdocs stuff require time to get the method for processing the xml to html right, and even more to migrate the existing content to new formats. Once it will be finished, it should improve a little bit the homogeneity of the doc, make it more easy to maintain (ho

RE: Ant 1.7

2004-02-17 Thread Dominique Devienne
> From: Stefan Bodewig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > My personal pet features that are quite high on my TODO list: > > * DynamicConfiguratorNS > > * task input/output features - I really need to write down the > proposal. Basically[1]. > > * unification of our File collection types in some way

Re: Ant 1.7

2004-02-17 Thread Antoine Lévy-Lambert
Peter Reilly wrote: 3) get the xdocs proposal out, 4) think about virtual file system abstractions, and do something about them, This sounds like fun.., but may be difficult to achieve in the same timeframe as local properties and roles. you are right the time frame for these points could exten

Re: Ant 1.7

2004-02-17 Thread Peter Reilly
Antoine Lévy-Lambert wrote: Hi, I do not know if we will make some further releases of ant 1.6. My guess is that there might be from time to time the need for a release due to "environmental factors", such as the release of a new version of an operating system forcing us to adapt the famous Os c

Re: Ant 1.7

2004-02-17 Thread Peter Reilly
Stefan Bodewig wrote: On Mon, 16 Feb 2004, Matt Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Or, an antlib could register its own tasks to override the default tasks (is that possible today?). You can replace tasks with your own, yes. I'm not sure whether you can do so for any namespace, but at le

RE: Ant 1.7

2004-02-17 Thread Jan . Materne
> I think forrest is good for static site generation; I am > getting ready > to move my work project (smartfrog.org) to it from msword. > Because you > can plug in other transforms, we could have xdoclet generate > source XML > from the docs, and then use forrest to turn it into the > site/p

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