On Tue, 27 Jun 2006, Jan Materne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>I'm thinking along the lines of moving the ant codebase
>>structure to something that reflects a project codebase per
>>jar file where each project (a.k.a. ant-sub-project) would
>>have its own build file, clearly identified dependen
>> -split out libraries for execution, java exec, other misc things
>> -complete programmatic use of ant without problems
>
>I'm thinking along the lines of moving the ant codebase
>structure to something that reflects a project codebase per
>jar file where each project (a.k.a. ant-sub-project)
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> From: Steve Loughran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Apologies for the delay in responding (have been
swamped with moving house and the cup).
> > I think that part of the problem here is that Ant is
> > bootstrapping itself from nothing and as a
> > consequence w
Stephen McConnell (DPML) wrote:
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Sent: Friday, 26 May 2006 10:59 PM
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Wolfgang Häfelinger wrote:
My preference is to improve Ant's API.
I
Wolfgang Häfelinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
on 05/26/2006 04:49:05 AM:
> >> My preference is to improve Ant's API.
>
> I would like to see Ant evolving
in such a way allowing
> me to implement a framework like Maven on top of it.
Like Maven in what way?
At IBM we've built a vast set
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> Wolfgang Häfelinger wrote:
> >>>My preference is to improve Ant's
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>>>My preference is to improve Ant's API.
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> I would like to see Ant evolving i
Wolfgang Häfelinger wrote:
My preference is to improve Ant's API.
I would like to see Ant evolving in such a way allowing
me to implement a framework like Maven on top of it.
So, the question is "can Ant evolve into a good Java API?"
I have no doubt that it can be done, we just
o see Python supported).
Cheers,
Wolfgang.
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> > However, it is possible to isolate Ant idiosyncrasies as an
> > im
However, it is possible to isolate Ant
idiosyncrasies as an implementation concern providing one can establish a
viable project model.
I've long thought Ant needed a more rigorous model exposed to Java
clients and extension builders. However, I don't think what I had in
mind was quite as ambitio
Wolfgang Häfelinger wrote:
> Dominique Devienne wrote:
> > Ant's purpose is as a build tools, not a Java library.
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> Perhaps time to change.
It seems to me that a primary objective of the Ant community has been to
focus on the build file XML integrity over and above API integrity. If you
tak
Wolfgang Ha"felinger wrote:
Hey,
Ant's purpose is as a build tools, not a Java library.
Perhaps time to change. After all, there must be a reason why
Maven's community is growing :-)
Ahh, we arent going to go there.
is just syntactic sugar, and is better not used
IMHO.
I disagree. It's
cool as "macrodef" which
I really love.
Cheers,
Wolfgang.
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> Still the
Still the overall problem I have with customizing Ant is the over-usage of
"private". It also bites at other places, ComponentHelper is just an example.
On the contrary, it's a Good Thing (TM)
Ant's purpose is as a build tools, not a Java library. Keeping its
internals private allows future re
have with customizing Ant is the over-usage of
"private". It also bites
at other places, ComponentHelper is just an example.
Cheers,
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On 23 May 2006, at 17:26, Wolfgang Häfelinger wrote:
Hi,
I'm heavily using to override/customize tasks. It
annoys me
and users
of my framework to see messages like
Trying to override old definition of task junit
ignoring the rest of your message for now - your main problem seem
Hi,
I'm heavily using to override/customize tasks. It annoys me
and users
of my framework to see messages like
Trying to override old definition of task junit
and so I had the idea to write my "own" ComponentHelper and to hook it in
via
reference "ant.ComponentHelper".
The idea is -
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