Re: [VOTE] Start a subproject for Ant libraries

2005-03-10 Thread Alexey N. Solofnenko
I changed about 20 files. Some of the files are new. - Alexey. Steve Loughran wrote: Alexey N. Solofnenko wrote: Interesting. So there is yet another revision control system. All I can tell that Darcs is stable and very convenient to use. Out of curiosity, how much has your copy of ant diverged f

Re: [VOTE] Start a subproject for Ant libraries

2005-03-10 Thread Steve Loughran
Alexey N. Solofnenko wrote: Interesting. So there is yet another revision control system. All I can tell that Darcs is stable and very convenient to use. Out of curiosity, how much has your copy of ant diverged from the main one ? --

Vote passes (was Re: [VOTE] Start a subproject for Ant libraries)

2005-03-10 Thread Stefan Bodewig
With +1s from Stefan Bodewig Peter Reilly Steve Loughran Conor MacNeill Martijn Kruithof Matt Benson Bruce Atherton Antoine Levy-Lambert Jesse Glick Jan Materne Jose Alberto Fernandez Dominique Devienne the vote has passed. I'll spawn of new threads to resolve the issues raised during the vote a

Re: [VOTE] Start a subproject for Ant libraries

2005-03-09 Thread Alexey N. Solofnenko
List Subject: Re: [VOTE] Start a subproject for Ant libraries There are several newer revision control systems (for example, DARCS and TLA) that provide an ability for everybody enjoy versioned environment even if the root repository is read only. They both allow local modification and up

RE: [VOTE] Start a subproject for Ant libraries

2005-03-09 Thread Shatzer, Larry
> -Original Message- > From: Alexey N. Solofnenko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 9:10 AM > To: Ant Developers List > Subject: Re: [VOTE] Start a subproject for Ant libraries > > There are several newer revision control systems (for &g

Re: [VOTE] Start a subproject for Ant libraries

2005-03-09 Thread Alexey N. Solofnenko
Life is never easy. I guess Subversion in a step forward comparing to CVS. There are several newer revision control systems (for example, DARCS and TLA) that provide an ability for everybody enjoy versioned environment even if the root repository is read only. They both allow local modificat

Re: [VOTE] Start a subproject for Ant libraries

2005-03-09 Thread Conor MacNeill
let me add my +1 to go ahead and sort out the details as we go. Conor - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [VOTE] Start a subproject for Ant libraries

2005-03-09 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On Tue, 08 Mar 2005, Alexey N. Solofnenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is it possible to use darcs instead of Subversion? The ASF infrastructure is run by volunteers, just as our code is written by volunteers. In the case of SCM system there is a strong preference towards SVN because we can get

Re: [VOTE] Start a subproject for Ant libraries

2005-03-08 Thread Jesse Glick
Stefan Bodewig wrote: as threatened, here is the proposal. +1 Conor's points are good ones, but I think need not block this vote. Cheers, -J. -- Jesse Glick x22801 NetBeans, Open APIs

Re: [VOTE] Start a subproject for Ant libraries

2005-03-08 Thread Matt Benson
--- "Alexey N. Solofnenko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is it possible to use darcs instead of Subversion? > darcs allows > non-commiters to use revision control system on > their local copies. Apache uses CVS and SVN; http://www.apache.org/dev/version-control.html the latter only is what they

Re: [VOTE] Start a subproject for Ant libraries

2005-03-08 Thread Alexey N. Solofnenko
Is it possible to use darcs instead of Subversion? darcs allows non-commiters to use revision control system on their local copies. - Alexey. Stefan Bodewig wrote: (3.2) SVN repositories Create Expected are sub-directories antlibs/ | -> proper/ |

Re: [VOTE] Start a subproject for Ant libraries

2005-03-08 Thread Antoine Levy-Lambert
+ 1, Cheers, Antoine - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [VOTE] Start a subproject for Ant libraries

2005-03-08 Thread Dominique Devienne
> From: Stefan Bodewig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > as threatened, here is the proposal. +1. We can sort the details out later on. --DD - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [VOTE] Start a subproject for Ant libraries

2005-03-08 Thread Bruce Atherton
+1. The points that Conor brought up are good ones and probably need thrashing out before we can make a decision about them, but I'd prefer we vote on this proposal first just so we can get something started, and vote on an amendment to the proposal afterward. Iterative design through iterative

AW: Ant SVN repo URLs (WAS: RE: [VOTE] Start a subproject for Ant libraries)

2005-03-08 Thread Jan . Materne
a subproject for Ant libraries) Have you tried darcs? It is very nice and it allows non-commiters to have their own repositories. - Alexey. Dominique Devienne wrote: >>From: Stefan Bodewig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >>>>(3.2) SVN repositories >>&

Re: Ant SVN repo URLs (WAS: RE: [VOTE] Start a subproject for Ant libraries)

2005-03-08 Thread Alexey N. Solofnenko
Have you tried darcs? It is very nice and it allows non-commiters to have their own repositories. - Alexey. Dominique Devienne wrote: From: Stefan Bodewig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (3.2) SVN repositories Create If we are going to use SVN for th

Ant SVN repo URLs (WAS: RE: [VOTE] Start a subproject for Ant libraries)

2005-03-08 Thread Dominique Devienne
> From: Stefan Bodewig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> (3.2) SVN repositories > >> Create > >> > > > > If we are going to use SVN for this, I think we should migrate Ant > > to SVN as well and consider where to put it in your proposed > > structure. > > Actual

Re: [VOTE] Start a subproject for Ant libraries

2005-03-08 Thread Matt Benson
--- Stefan Bodewig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > as threatened, here is the proposal. +1 -Matt __ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/

Re: [VOTE] Start a subproject for Ant libraries

2005-03-08 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On Tue, 08 Mar 2005, Steve Loughran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, the big problem is "what happens when an actively used library > stops being maintained". To date, with all in our codebase open to > all, it is free for anyone to edit. Any Ant PMC member should be able to request karma to any

AW: [VOTE] Start a subproject for Ant libraries

2005-03-08 Thread Jan . Materne
://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=ant-dev&m=110803361106920&w=2 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet am: Dienstag, 8. März 2005 14:34 An: Ant Developers List Betreff: Re: [VOTE] Start a subproject for Ant libraries +1 I'd rather have onl

Re: [VOTE] Start a subproject for Ant libraries

2005-03-08 Thread Peter Reilly
Steve Loughran wrote: Incidentally, what is with the BSH project. It appears not to build on gump on java1.5, and a lot of things are failing? Have all the committers whithered away there? I fear this is the example we dont want to replicate. AFAIK Pat is (and has been) the only committer to BS

Re: [VOTE] Start a subproject for Ant libraries

2005-03-08 Thread jm
+1 I'd rather have only one version control system though, (and a version control system that is supported by a non sandbox part of ant). This is not meant as a no against svn, but more as ant should in that case also be migrated to svn lets say this calender year, and the svn tasks should be m

RE: [VOTE] Start a subproject for Ant libraries

2005-03-08 Thread Jose Alberto Fernandez
+1 Jose Alberto > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 08 March 2005 09:07 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: AW: [VOTE] Start a subproject for Ant libraries > > > +1 > Jan > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht--

Re: [VOTE] Start a subproject for Ant libraries

2005-03-08 Thread Steve Loughran
Stefan Bodewig wrote: On Tue, 08 Mar 2005, Steve Loughran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Stefan Bodewig wrote: (3.3) Bugzilla New components under product "Ant" for each new library. Not Jira? I'm on the fence here. I'd like to use the same tracking system as Ant does and don't care much which one w

Re: [VOTE] Start a subproject for Ant libraries

2005-03-08 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On Tue, 08 Mar 2005, Conor MacNeill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One other concern I have is how we handle the third party task > problem. In the early days of Ant we accepted tasks that targeted > particular third party products (weblogic, starteam, perforce, etc) > but transitioned to a policy o

Re: [VOTE] Start a subproject for Ant libraries

2005-03-08 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On Tue, 08 Mar 2005, Steve Loughran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Stefan Bodewig wrote: >> (3.3) Bugzilla >> New components under product "Ant" for each new library. > > Not Jira? I'm on the fence here. I'd like to use the same tracking system as Ant does and don't care much which one we use. >

Re: [VOTE] Start a subproject for Ant libraries

2005-03-08 Thread Conor MacNeill
Stefan Bodewig wrote: Hi all, as threatened, here is the proposal. According to our bylaws it needs +1s froms two thirds of all active committers to pass. By my count that is 12 out of 18 (all PMC members listed on the contributors page plus all committers listed there plus Jose Alberto who hasn't

Re: [VOTE] Start a subproject for Ant libraries

2005-03-08 Thread Steve Loughran
Stefan Bodewig wrote: Hi all, as threatened, here is the proposal. According to our bylaws it needs +1s froms two thirds of all active committers to pass. By my count that is 12 out of 18 (all PMC members listed on the contributors page plus all committers listed there plus Jose Alberto who hasn't

Re: [VOTE] Start a subproject for Ant libraries

2005-03-08 Thread Peter Reilly
+1 Peter Stefan Bodewig wrote: Hi all, as threatened, here is the proposal. According to our bylaws it needs +1s froms two thirds of all active committers to pass. By my count that is 12 out of 18 (all PMC members listed on the contributors page plus all committers listed there plus Jose Alberto w

Re: [VOTE] Start a subproject for Ant libraries

2005-03-08 Thread Stefan Bodewig
+1 Stefan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

AW: [VOTE] Start a subproject for Ant libraries

2005-03-08 Thread Jan . Materne
+1 Jan -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Stefan Bodewig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet am: Dienstag, 8. März 2005 10:02 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: [VOTE] Start a subproject for Ant libraries Hi all, as threatened, here is the proposal. According to our bylaws it needs +1s froms

[VOTE] Start a subproject for Ant libraries

2005-03-08 Thread Stefan Bodewig
Hi all, as threatened, here is the proposal. According to our bylaws it needs +1s froms two thirds of all active committers to pass. By my count that is 12 out of 18 (all PMC members listed on the contributors page plus all committers listed there plus Jose Alberto who hasn't added himself to th