I thought I'd expand on why I got so excited about NIO 2.0 and JSR 203
as well as the other changes in Java 7. I can see I have done a bad job
of selling the benefits of a refactoring for potential volunteers.
Reading through the changes that were introduced in Java 7, it seems to
me that Ant w
On 2/16/2012 2:36 PM, Nicolas Lalevée wrote:
Le 16 févr. 2012 à 20:47, Bruce Atherton a écrit :
I'd hope to go further than that in backwards compatibility. I work with a lot
of companies that are:
a) resistant to learning new things unless there is a good reason for it
(such as the mi
Le 16 févr. 2012 à 20:49, Mansour Al Akeel a écrit :
> 2012/2/16 Nicolas Lalevée
>
>>
>>
>> I cannot talk about Gradle because I never really understand the real
>> motive apart from the apparent cool groovy language features.
>>
>> On the other hand, Easyant is about using Ant on steroïds.
Le 16 févr. 2012 à 21:08, Bruce Atherton a écrit :
> It has but not for quite a long time. Look in the archives from 2001 to 2003
> for "Mutant"[1] which Conor proposed, and "Myrmidon"[2] which Peter Donald
> proposed back in 2000. You can still find them in the svn repository[3], [4].
>
> I
Le 16 févr. 2012 à 20:47, Bruce Atherton a écrit :
> I'd hope to go further than that in backwards compatibility. I work with a
> lot of companies that are:
>
>a) resistant to learning new things unless there is a good reason for it
> (such as the migration from Apache HTTP Server from 1.x
It has but not for quite a long time. Look in the archives from 2001 to
2003 for "Mutant"[1] which Conor proposed, and "Myrmidon"[2] which
Peter Donald proposed back in 2000. You can still find them in the svn
repository[3], [4].
I think there was so much discussion on a new design of Ant tha
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Mansour Al Akeel wrote:
> >
> > 2012/2/16 Nicolas Lalevée
> >
> > implementation are, but a 1s launch (bash script and jvm launch included)
> > would be to too long for me.
> >
>
Agreed.
> > And this is why I suggested java plugin framework in a previous email
Oops, accidental deletion.
On 2/16/2012 11:47 AM, Bruce Atherton wrote:
b) have a number of separate Ant build scripts that follow
different standards in different areas of the company, particularly if
they have acquired other companies with their own Ant builds.
2012/2/16 Nicolas Lalevée
>
>
> I cannot talk about Gradle because I never really understand the real
> motive apart from the apparent cool groovy language features.
>
> On the other hand, Easyant is about using Ant on steroïds. The idea is
> basically sharing Ant build scripts.
> Each time I hav
I'd hope to go further than that in backwards compatibility. I work with
a lot of companies that are:
a) resistant to learning new things unless there is a good reason
for it (such as the migration from Apache HTTP Server from 1.x to 2.x to
resolve security issues)
b) have a number o
Le 15 févr. 2012 à 20:05, Mansour Al Akeel a écrit :
> Another thing I don't understand about the current Ant. Why there are
> derivatives from ant and they are gaining popularity ? I am talking about
> gradle and easyant.
>
> Gradle adds mutli project support, and easyant sets some conventions
Le 14 févr. 2012 à 20:02, Bruce Atherton a écrit :
> On 2/14/2012 6:13 AM, Stefan Bodewig wrote:
>>
>> This will lead us to the discussion of what Ant2 would be. A rewritten
>> Ant that remains compatible (or mostly so) on the build file level or
>> something quite different?
>>
>
> My opinio
On 2/15/2012 5:48 PM, Bruce Atherton wrote:
I've read a blog post that said that one of the requirements that has
been adopted is OSGI compatibility...
Here is the post I mentioned:
http://osgithoughts.blogspot.com/2011/05/java-se-8-modularity-requirements.html
It brings up a good point:
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