Re: Java Packaging Tool - one for development and using. The best wish of many developers

2010-01-18 Thread Alexey Lunacharsky
Thanks for proposals 2010/1/18 Archie Cobbs > On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Alexey Lunacharsky >wrote: > > > Does anybody think about imlementation a "Debian APT"-like tool on the > top > > of an Ivy dependency manager. It can manage all java binaries and source > > installation in the syst

Re: Java Packaging Tool - one for development and using. The best wish of many developers

2010-01-18 Thread Alexey Lunacharsky
That are a good news. I like groovy for its agility and found on par with gant very good solution for crossplatform scripting 2010/1/18 Paul King > > Yes, startup speed can be a factor though I am not sure it is as bad > as 10 times slower these days. Some potentially useful info for you: > > *

Re: Java Packaging Tool - one for development and using. The best wish of many developers

2010-01-18 Thread Archie Cobbs
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Alexey Lunacharsky wrote: > Does anybody think about imlementation a "Debian APT"-like tool on the top > of an Ivy dependency manager. It can manage all java binaries and source > installation in the system on user level, > through home directory located workspace

AW: AW: Tentative release date for Apache Ant 1.8 stable version.

2010-01-18 Thread Jan.Materne
Thanks. - I am not familiar with the last update step (getting online) - I want to have a recheck this note Jan >-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- >Von: Antoine Levy-Lambert [mailto:anto...@gmx.de] >Gesendet: Montag, 18. Januar 2010 16:22 >An: Ant Developers List >Betreff: Re: AW: Tentative rel

Re: AW: Tentative release date for Apache Ant 1.8 stable version.

2010-01-18 Thread Antoine Levy-Lambert
Hello Jan, thanks for this. You have changed index.xml, index.html. I was surprised not to see this on our website. So I updated manually index.html. Regards, Antoine jan.mate...@rzf.fin-nrw.de wrote: > I added a note to the RC1 announcement as this is asked more often in the > past. > > Jan

Re: Java Packaging Tool - one for development and using. The best wish of many developers

2010-01-18 Thread Paul King
Yes, startup speed can be a factor though I am not sure it is as bad as 10 times slower these days. Some potentially useful info for you: * if you grab 1.7.1 snapshot or 1.8 snapshot from one of the CI servers then it avoids one of the big startup delays due to DGM class loading by loading tha

AW: Tentative release date for Apache Ant 1.8 stable version.

2010-01-18 Thread Jan.Materne
I added a note to the RC1 announcement as this is asked more often in the past. Jan >-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- >Von: Suman N [mailto:suma...@curamsoftware.com] >Gesendet: Montag, 18. Januar 2010 11:02 >An: Ant Developers List >Betreff: RE: Tentative release date for Apache Ant 1.8 stabl

Re: Java Packaging Tool - one for development and using. The best wish of many developers

2010-01-18 Thread Alexey Lunacharsky
Thanks you a lot. I've heard about grape. But didn't know it is almost what I need. It is very good point to start... But The biggest problem with groovy it is very slow at startup. The pure java solution such Ivy or thin wrapped with ant scripting can be about 10 times faster for using from comma

RE: Tentative release date for Apache Ant 1.8 stable version.

2010-01-18 Thread Suman N
Thanks very much Antoine. This information was very useful to plan our ANT upgrades. Cheers, Suman.N -Original Message- From: Antoine Levy Lambert [mailto:anto...@gmx.de] Sent: 14 January 2010 03:03 To: Ant Developers List Subject: Re: Tentative release date for Apache Ant 1.8 stable ve

Re: Java Packaging Tool - one for development and using. The best wish of many developers

2010-01-18 Thread Paul King
Paul King wrote: Not 100% the same as what you suggest but Groovy's Grape system does some of what you are asking for. Normally Grapes are used from within scripts, e.g.: @Grab('org.apache.ant:ant:1.7.1') import org.apache.tools.ant.Main Main.main(['-version'] as String[]) but it also has a co

Re: Java Packaging Tool - one for development and using. The best wish of many developers

2010-01-18 Thread Paul King
Not 100% the same as what you suggest but Groovy's Grape system does some of what you are asking for. Normally Grapes are used from within scripts, e.g.: @Grab('org.apache.ant:ant:1.7.1') import org.apache.tools.ant.Main Main.main(['-version'] as String[]) but it also has a commandline interfac