Re: target-group committed

2008-11-20 Thread Jean-Louis BOUDART
> > > The fact is target-group is not only a way to have dependency management, > > but a "new way" to think your build-script. > > Yes, but only for the person who writes the build file, not the one > who uses it. -projecthelp is for the user. > > > I guess for us target-group is useful to make b

Re: EasyAnt phases

2008-11-20 Thread Gilles Scokart
2008/11/20 Stefan Bodewig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 2008-11-20, Gilles Scokart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> There is 2 other topics : >> - What about the build events? > > As long as target-groups are not different from targets from the > perspective of the person who runs ant, not the person wh

Re: Maybe we should open up "depends" for all targets

2008-11-20 Thread Dominique Devienne
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 10:21 AM, Stefan Bodewig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > target-group is-a target. A "plain target" is a target as opposed to > a target-group. Since I have conceptualized them in my head as something different than targets, I forget that implementation-wise they remain targe

Re: Maybe we should open up "depends" for all targets

2008-11-20 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On 2008-11-20, Dominique Devienne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 9:32 AM, Stefan Bodewig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> The *only* differences between and in trunk >> are: >> * s must be empty > I like that. >> * you cannot use the target-group attribute to change the dep

Re: Maybe we should open up "depends" for all targets

2008-11-20 Thread Dominique Devienne
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 9:32 AM, Stefan Bodewig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [OT] I recently was thinking that is "heavy". I think using is just as expressive. > The *only* differences between and in trunk > are: > * s must be empty I like that. > * you cannot use the target-group attr

Re: Contribute for ANT a new format script with a new ProjectHelper

2008-11-20 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On 2008-11-19, 向雅 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > after patch ProjectHelper with a method accept(buildFile), if file > is xml, ONProjectHelper not accept, so all control transfer to ant > with xml. else if file is on, ONProjectHelper do it. This change to ProjectHelper sounds pretty innocent (an ac

Re: target-group committed

2008-11-20 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On 2008-11-20, Jean-Louis BOUDART <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The fact is target-group is not only a way to have dependency management, > but a "new way" to think your build-script. Yes, but only for the person who writes the build file, not the one who uses it. -projecthelp is for the user. >

Re: EasyAnt phases

2008-11-20 Thread Dominique Devienne
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 11:19 PM, Stefan Bodewig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2008-11-19, Bruce Atherton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> The only other topic I saw brought up on this thread was whether a >> target-group should be allowed to have tasks in it rather than >> requiring it to be empt

Re: target-group committed

2008-11-20 Thread Jean-Louis BOUDART
I think this is a typo he wanted to say target-group IMHO :p 2008/11/20 Stefan Bodewig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On 2008-11-20, Xavier Hanin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'm not sure if it's directly related to thread-group, or to the usage > made > > of thread-group in EasyAnt: > > could you ple

Re: target-group committed

2008-11-20 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On 2008-11-20, Xavier Hanin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm not sure if it's directly related to thread-group, or to the usage made > of thread-group in EasyAnt: could you please explain what a thread-group in EasyAnt is/does? Thanks Stefan

Re: EasyAnt phases

2008-11-20 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On 2008-11-20, Gilles Scokart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There is 2 other topics : > - What about the build events? As long as target-groups are not different from targets from the perspective of the person who runs ant, not the person who writes the build file, I don't see why. > - What about

Maybe we should open up "depends" for all targets

2008-11-20 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On 2008-11-20, Dominique Devienne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 11:19 PM, Stefan Bodewig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 2008-11-19, Bruce Atherton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> The only other topic I saw brought up on this thread was whether a >>> target-group should be

Re: target-group committed

2008-11-20 Thread Jean-Louis BOUDART
I agree with Xavier a target-group is something at a higher level than a target. I think that the key feature of target-group is dependency injection but as Xavier says "if thread-group is the only way to have target dependency injection, then people may use it only for that, and complain about th

Re: EasyAnt phases

2008-11-20 Thread Gilles Scokart
2008/11/19 Bruce Atherton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I think that summary does the job nicely. The only other topic I saw brought > up on this thread was whether a target-group should be allowed to have tasks > in it rather than requiring it to be empty. This can also be discussed > separately, though,

Re: target-group committed

2008-11-20 Thread Gilles Scokart
I think if you want to show nice dynamic help, with rich (understand specific) logic to select what to display, you should probably use an help module in EasyAnt, (I mean an imported help build file exposing an help target ot target-group). Gilles 2008/11/20 Xavier Hanin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On

Re: CoreLoader not used for antlib & typedef [Re: Launching unit test of antunit]

2008-11-20 Thread Gilles Scokart
2008/11/20 Stefan Bodewig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 2008-11-19, Gilles Scokart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I was thus thinking to provide this classpath using the >> project.setCoreLoader. But that didn't worked. >> Indeed, the coreLoader is not used when declaring antlib. > > Is coreLoader us

Re: target-group committed

2008-11-20 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On 2008-11-19, Stefan Bodewig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Maybe this should be a comma-separeted list of traget-groups to add > to instead. [Maybe I should proof-read my mails before I hit C-c C-c.] The target-group attribute now accepts a comma-separated list in svn revision 719198. Stefan -

Re: target-group committed

2008-11-20 Thread Xavier Hanin
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 6:22 AM, Stefan Bodewig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2008-11-19, Jean-Louis BOUDART <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I just have two questions : > > I knew I didn't reproduce all of EasyAnt's patch 8-) > > >- Does prefix of / make sense on target-group? Or > >s